Toque and Snuffhouse are proud to present the first in a series of occasional competitions. The prize will be a box of the fantastic new Silver Dollar snuffs and a hand crafted wooden trippletec snuff-box. First correct response to reach me wins, and in this competition only the winner gets a prize - which is only fair because the winner will have thought very deeply to win! The competition is: 22321 32122 13212 22219 33999 12332 33119? Well, I didn’t say it would be easy, simply crack the code!

Damn that’s hard, pondering it now. But I may not be the first considering how stumped I am…

By the way, please post suggested answers on this thread. I’ve had a couple of pm’s but just to clarify I won’t get into individual messaging about this - it would kill the fun! And just as a starter bit of help (there will be others!) you won’t get this by guessing about snuff brands etc. I would say it’s almost mathamatically impossible to guess this.

It’s certainly an excellent idea for a competition. I’m really hoping other people are getting further with it than I am, as it’s all I can think about.

Thanks alot ERIC HILL for telling everyone on snuson.com OH and I STILL haven’t gotten a response from ANYONE ON THERE about why I can’t register. Who the heck is in charge of their email? It’s been months and I still can’t register because it says something about spam. Whatever. But yeah thanks for increasing the competition!

Can we get a hint? This is totally stumping me.

I’ve spent 6 hours of my life on this thus far

@ nightcap me too, I’m just hoping It’s something I would actually recognise if I did somehow get it. Not sure I will by just picking random ways of translating it into text then seeing if it looks like words though.

What type of puzzle is this? Is it a secret code where the numbers or group of numbers stand for letters or a mathematical logic puzzle where we have to figure out what number sequence is next or something completely different?

It has the structure of a pig cypher, definitely not a cryptogram. Having spent 30 secs on this, I’d guess the answer is Tamam Shud.

The answer is 52

I meant 42

What is Niagra Falls?

@spyro Pigpen cypher is a geometric code. It’s certainly not pigpen

Tom, though you phrased your answer in the form of a question I think you are still wrong

This is very tough

No, its not simple pig pen, just shares some structure traits. 7 sequences of 5 digits, all consisting of 1’s, 2’s. 3’s. and 9’s. The clue and question mark at the end of the code hints that it may not be a numerical answer or based upon math patterns.

Oh okay. Still trying…

Hey all. It’s cnashx from YouTube. Long time lurker on here. My guess would have to be the simple word “Money”. I have an explanation on how I came to this conclusion as well.

thanks Eric hill! They all come out of the woodwork when there’s prizes involved!

AAARRRGGGHHH!!!

better hurry people because I’m a few minutes away from having the answer lol

Well, it won’t be solved by me. I’m still tired from a late night baseball game I went to. I wore my Toque cap in case I got on T.V. It was free sunshades night and they were trying to set a new world record for the most people wearing shades at night in one place. I was about 20 meters away from where the 10th inning homer landed to end the game. 33999.

The homer was in the 11th inning.

Bloody hell you need to be in MI5 or summat to solve this, I’ll keep trying but there’s no way I’ll ever try Silver Dollar snuff

Glad you’re all stumped; the last comp. I held it was solved in two minutes flat, so I put some thought into this. Ok. My intention is to drip feed a few bits your way when its clear you are at a brick wall. As it is there is some good thinking going on. And bear in mind I will giving away a Tripletec so its worth the effort. But not yet.

@Nigel is this code something you came across when you were in the Police? Stefan

ahh…nope.

I have traced so many dead ends, I would list more of them but, well this is a competition.

The first clue is…you are all missing the clue.

Likewise, though I should probably use a more methodological approach of pursuing the answer rather than randomly trying things.

Listen to this guy.

Ah now if only I could follow my own advice

I didn’t get it? Damn. Thought I was right! I even confirmed with some people. Haha

You have had the first clue don’t forget (4 posts back)

Is the answer “WINNER”?

Well I got my answer my translating the numbers from Unicode to ASCII which gives me a Asian symbol. The symbol directly translates to “money” so I figured with it being “Silver Dollar” Snuff that money would be an appropriate answer especially when it’s a translation of the code given.

Its not winner or money.

Cnashx: that’s the sort of thinking that might help you. But I will give you for free it’s nothing to do with snuff. I guarentee anyone above about the age of 8 could solve this. May I be locked in the deepest cell in the Tower of London and the key thrown away if that’s not the case.

started?

Is the Tower of London reference another subtle clue, or subterfuge to confuse us even more?

Not started. I suggest you start reading everything I write very carefully!

Btw, I promise I will not purposely confuse the problem, you can only expect clues. I don’t want to end up in that cell now do I?

dungeon?

Bicycle?

Random?

Berwick?

Only other thing I can figure is “respectful” but I will continue the search.

mineral?

missing

I am slightly miffed that somebody called ‘Rob’ has asked for help solving this on Yahoo Answers, is that allowed?

I saw that as well.

But see, you were looking as well now weren’t you?

Nobody said you couldn’t consult

actually I put the code into my toolbar so I could copy and paste it, and the toolbar is linked to Google so it searched through the drop down menu and it came up.

I was already ahead of you

Googling for ways to crack it and posting a question asking others to solve it are 2 different things.

Did I break the rules or something? If you guys think I’m the only one that’s thought of doing this you’re crazy. What about asking on another forum? Nobody on Yahoo has been of any help.

Nevermind I’ll go delete it.

Like I say, I wasnt googling it, I was holding it in the toolbar whilst I was copying and pasting something else. I don’t know if there are rules as such, it just doesnt seem cricket to me. I don’t see a problem with looking for ways to code or decode something, but directly asking someone is different isnt it?

Fair enough @transistor , like I say, I don’t know the rules

It’s gone. Can’t blame a guy for tryin. You guys did

I debated posting on a forum that specializes in these things, but considered that unfair. I have been googling the hell out of all the methodical approaches I have taken. The random ones come from trying to read into Snuffsters words. I wonder if he meant to misspell guarantee for example? Ken

I don’t recall posting anything to have someone else figure it out for me…

Lottery

Oh chill out. It’s gone. I didn’t break any rules so get off my back.

In life there are no rules, we just make them up as we go along. BTW that’s not a clue. Snuffster didn’t tell me the answer and I have to say in the 10 minutes if been looking at it my brain has started to turn to jelly.

Or for that matter mathematically? hmmm

Retired

I’ve tried a few different code breaking things, and was considering number to letter substitutions, but there’s so many possibilities it seems like I might be wasting my time trying them if I’m barking up the wrong tree. At risk of weakening my slim chances of being a contender, I was debating whether the spelling mistake was deliberate too, and if the use of the statement about the winner “thinking deeply” or the tower of London were hints at some reference beyond my comprehension. Who knows…

Since he said read everything he writes very carefully. There are three misspelling/grammatical errors done by snuffster in this thread but I can’t draw a pattern from them. Ken

Hey guys, it’s all ok by me. If you could get it by Googling I wouldn’t have posted it. The simple fact is you can’t. But there have been clues so far; my advice is start looking for them. You need to use every brain cell here.

Oh, by the way I can’t spell or type too good - touch of dyslexia - don’t read anything into it.

Compared to most people on most forums you are doing better than most, hence why the few I found stood out more and I wondered if they were a clue. Ken

Why oh why with the double posts vanilla?!? Never mind, they only show double before refreshing. Ken

@Ken: They clear up, it’s a glitch. Is the answer GUILTY?

‘bits’ Suggested as a clue, and not an answer

Nope and…nah, niet, nhoooo. Sorry.

little ease?

gunpowder?

Anyone remember the Elvish word for “friend”?

fawkes?

Torture?

10-10-9-16-33-11?

Dr. Terror’s House of Horrors.

I’m sorry Transistor… I needed help lol. And there are alot of snuff lovers on there as well

I did that too Spyro, then played about with means and different ways of converting that to letters, but to no avail.

It’s cool I did too. There’s no rules. This is really tough

Brick wall.

Love Padlock or simply padlock? Thomas More? Beefeater? Bloody Tower? Beauchamp Tower?

“One common misconception about dyslexia is that dyslexic readers write words backwards or move letters around when reading. In fact, this only occurs in a very small population of dyslexic readers. Additionally, dyslexic people often substitute similar-looking, but unrelated, words in place of the ones intended (what/want, say/saw, help/held, run/fun, fell/fall, to/too, who/how etc.)”

First of all, Is this a phrase/sentence or a word?

Princes?

Is it captive?

1. All wrong so far. 2. I can guarentee (or however the hell you spell it) that the spelling of words has no signeefeeikunse. Don’t worry, I won’t prolong the torture (not much anyway) but you have missed 2 clues that you will need to understand the final clue. You have to force those brain cells to do some lateral thinking!

Beheading

Nope

Freedom?

merciful?

I will post the final (and biggest) clue tomorrow. My final bit of help tonight: everyone is looking for a word and that is leading you way off track. You need to understand something about the puzzle before you can get anywhere with it and there are several clues posted here to let you do that. Trust me, without them you can not get anywhere near this - however many sites you post on.

Next answer… “Genes conserved in chimpanzees and humans”.

1591: The year Walter Raliegh was imprisoned at the Tower.

Read back over the thread, sorry.

vampires

us natl debt

Sorry guys. More tomorrow. I guess I was premature asking for all those GCHQ application forms?

LOL, I think so. How about 106… number of people executed at LT?

106 also happens to be the some of all the single digits in that 35 digit string. Ken

*sum

Yep

If an 8 year old can figure this out, I’d like to meet him/her.

What is killing me is that I’ve seen this pattern before. I’ve been sitting here with a pad and pen for hours now. I’m not answering until I find a good answer.

Crown Jewels? Stefan

445: number of years torture and executions were performed at the ToL. 445: Height of the ferris wheel on the Thames.

I’ve come up with the letters ATS or IES.

is the answer in english?

The answer is…random numbers… Lol

The answer is 1-800-3825-968

Sorry, all wrong, but it will all become clear. Dont forget the question mark - cracking the code is not what gets you the prize, it’s answering the question. But I have a lovely tripple tec and 12 tins of SD just waiting to be despatched. I’ll even through in a snuff hanky or two.

~ <----- That’s the towel I just threw in.

169324 This would be the sum if you added all the “cells” together

H8 H8 H8 H8

Gunpowder Plot I am going down 2 different paths here. I wish I knew if the answer was numerological or alphabetical.

question: deck? answer: of cards

I have put this code through a dozen cipher applications and I’m not coming up with much

I did as well. I doesn’t seem like a cipher. I think it is much more simple because he said an 8 year old could “solve” this.

“Remember, remember the fifth of November”… lollerskates

The question is: Pi? so, my answer is “3.14159265358979323846264338…”

The answer to the question is: yes

The answer to the question is: no

The answer to the question is ALWAYS

The answer to the question is: maybe Ok, just trying to cover all my bases. I cain’t figger it out. Some would say I am not as smart as an 8 year ode.

Howabout, ‘Drink more ovaltine’

I give up. I don’t know if the numbers relate to letters, to make a sentence or word, or what. I thought it was binary at first, but that’s just 0’s and 1’s. A number answer doesn’t make sense to me. And there are so few numbers. I’m not a puzzle guy anyway, I suck at Sudoku.

22321 = backwards “1232” the year Hubert de Burgh was imprisoned, and he spent “2” years in the tower. therefore, 12322 reversed from 22321… My brains hurts! Hello? Mr. Gumby?

I will reveal my secret as soon as snuffster confirms that I totally got it right.

Voice from the rear of elevator. We are on a three day work week at our company. The other two are spent in conferences.

I’m hoping my guess is correct?

Plaintext is: Voice from the rear of elevator. We are on a three day work week at our company. The other two are spent in conferences.

The answer is PUZZLE

It is the patent number or FDA file number for Silver Dollar snuff

Sorry all wrong. Ok, I said I would drip feed some clues. I tried hard to get them across but short of shouting them out they were just getting lost in the rush to find a word. The clues so far have been: 999 Cell Key The final piece of assistance is: R3K12 R3K22 R2K13 R1K32 R3K21 R3K13 R1K32 R2K11 R1K32 R2K32 R3K21 R2K33 R2K32 R3K21 R2K12 R1K32 R1K32 R2K32 R1K31 (9)* R2K33 R1K33 (999) R3K31 R2K12 R2K13 R1K23 R2K12 R3K13 R2K33 R1K21 R1K31 (9)? (9 is R3K3 and has no value) Putting the first 3 clues together you now have everything you need to de-code the question. Only the correct answer to the de-coded question wins the prize, so if you crack it it would be wise not to post what you think the question is, just the answer. Google won’t help and the only way to progress is to work out what the code is first.

Now I feel even slower, as these clues only seem to confuse me further. Hopefully someone has more luck/knowledge than me to apply to this perplexing puzzle.

The answer is Palace st.

OR…Berwick upon Tweed or just Tweed.

Buckingham Palace?

The answer is ZERO

Sorry guys.

Chaweng Beach Road

Gillespie Street

Im getting a sense some people have had Eureka moments!

Blomfield Road

Limehouse Basin

Glasshouse Street

No. Apparently, reading snuson, the code has been cracked; ya just gotta answer that pesky question…

Surely I’m on the right track?

Orchard Road

I could drip feed until the thing is more or less given away! You clearly have the question, at this point it’s no harder than a cryptic crossword so come to it from that perspective and forget about the code, which is useless history now. But if you know the number one rule for cryptic crosswords: do it!!

Once this thing is over, I would like someone to explain how they cracked the damn thing.

Well the answer to that is ask CoderGuy. So I hope he gets some snuff:)

Charing Cross Road?

Wow. That’s just terrific. So I can’t fricken register to SNUSON and now that’s the place that has the answer. Terrific. I’ve spent a total of like 10 hours on this question and now I’m kept from the answer. BS.

Avenue Road?

Hampstead Road?

Everyone else can just go ask that dude on snuson.

Screw it I’m pissed the F off.

London Road?

Abbey

main street

Dulwich Road? or Picadilly? Regent road or King street? King Henry’s Road or Downing street? I have a sneaky feeling we may be looking at the question wrong, and it may be a more laterally interpreted answer.

So snuson’s incompetence regarding their registration process is screwing me apparently

Park Road. Prince Albert Road Camden Road Finchley Road Circus Road

Nobody has solved the puzzle yet transistor

Yeah but anyone can get the question but me. I can’t even go ask for it. Because it won’t let me register. I’m frustrated because I’ve been working on this for almost 12 straight hours.

Oxford street Portobello Regent Russell

shaftesberry soho tottenham court

fleet st haymarket downing covent commercial connaught

snuffster I sent you a pm with my best guess.

Abbey Road

Has anyone said King’s Cross? That is my guess King’s Cross. Ken

Baker Street? Ken

How about someone from snuson get their damn forum working so I can actually ask what the darn question is.

TOWER STREET?

north bank of the River Thames

I bet that attitude is inspiring someone to hop to it. Ken

I started nicely.

and I don’t really care either they will or they won’t. Nobody did and I doubt anyone will. Got the question anyway.

picadilly

Montague

cannon street tower hill

Queens Grove

Fenchurch st.

Marylebone? or Langham or Portland Place? Something to do with the Quadrant, Carlton or Foley House? Swallow street, castle street or St James’ Market?

York Way

Claridge hotel

Prince of Wales Rd

Ritz

Savoy

St. Johns Wood

Snuffster, any comment on any of these answers? Ken

I’m sure he’d say something if there was.

wentworth

@Transistor: A word, please: stop complaining about the same thing repeatedly. We know already. You’re barking up the wrong tree anyway. Thanks.

Dead and Buried the Cross Kings

YES SIR.

Or he could be eating lunch or something, well supper I guess in the UK, either or. Ken

I’ll just give up then. That’s total BS though.

anyone else been working on this for the past 12 hours or so? I have been. Guess I should go back to yahoo answers…

@Transistor: I am going to start deleting your OT post from this thread. We know you have been working on it for 12 hours, we know you think it is BS. Please, enough.

windsor road

New Wharf Road

Perhaps the Duke of York Column, or the Crimean War Memorial?

Pier Rd

Seething Lane Savage Gardens Coopers Row Trinity Place

Elizabeth

Ave road? Regents street?

Romney Lock

St. Andrew St

rail

New Fetter Ln

High Holborn

Globe Rd

I still have no idea what the question is and I’m not going to register on another forum just to get it

Sorry, double post

Chastened

London Road

Everyone needs to read back through the thread to know what others have listed.

Aesthetic

That bar is closed

sin?

like 9inch, i dont know the question and im not gunna reg on snuson to get it, seems a little unfair but nevermind. Anyone wanna post the question?

You don’t have to register, Snuffster gave the key to the code.

Prince Regent, 105 Globe Road, Mile End E1

I think that might be it. ^^^

I sure hope so…haha

sew?

Globe Road

@Revnobody: Good job, thats some obscure stuff right there. @stuklu: a little late

Detergent

Foy?

@cstokes4 - Thank you. I just hope it is right. My girlfriend and I have been working on this for hours…haha

I should have figured it was a pub knowing Nigel.

That does seem like a more logical response, I was trying to link it with Regent’s Park somehow. Congratulations if you’re right.

Rul?

I tried to link it to Regents Canal and Regent’s Park as well

I’m still working on it though just in case!

I need more clues and I’ve figured out something (it’s not a road)

streeter?

King George VI

Diana

Sesame Street

Dorothy

There’s a Prince Regent on Regent Street, Cambridge, one on the High Street in Sutton, and one on Dulwich Road too, which I previously mentioned, though not for that reasoning at the time I admit.

I assumed the one on Globe because the clue was “quiet” and the bar is closed and is at the mile “end”. Mile End Road or Globe Rd

I didn’t even see the one on Globe road to be honest but you seem to have a logical basis for it. We shall see if any of us are right or even on the right lines when snuffster returns for the judging. Seems like you’ve got a pretty strong case though.

@Gecko - That is a def possibility that we aren’t on the correct path…haha… I know this challenge has sent me down several paths.

pauper?

There is probably some major missing piece we will get tomorrow. Considering that decoding the question was completely impossible without a great deal of random trial and error without the piece provided today… There is a difference between making something difficult and making something impossible due to missing information. Ken

I was surprisingly close with my early attempts, and in fact tried the practical aspect of the method, but didn’t interpret the numbers correctly so got nowhere. So it was possible, though indeed incredibly difficult. Frustratingly I forgot about it when today’s clue came so didn’t get on as quickly as I should have. I certainly spent a lot of time trying it in cipher applications and such. I’m waiting with baited breath for snuffster to tell us whether anyone’s got it or if we’re still all shooting in the wrong direction.

How was it possible. Without giving it a way what it specifically it is, it was essentially a trifed cipher with 2/3 of the ordinals missing. By only giving the last ordinal for each position you are left with each position, each character, the most you can narrow down each one is to one of 8 letters, and there are only 3 sets of those 8 letters that could be in each position. Try it, write out the possible 8 for each position and see how many sensible combinations you can come up with. It actually slightly annoys me because Polybus Square and Trifed Ciphers were how I first approached this and wasted all sorts of time because well, the fact is it was an incomplete cipher. That is just a fact, no one had enough info to solve this from day one, even if they were Einstein. It is like telling someone to solve a crossword puzzle completely but only giving them one third of the questions involved, or more like only one letter of each question for the crossword, or maybe just the punctuation, or vowels for the hints. Look at the hint today, it increased the cipher length x 3, we were given a third of the cipher text and treated like it was a complete code. I bet there is another major piece missing. It would be par for the course with this “challenge”. Ken

Gerry Rafferty

Liverpool Road

an eight year old could get it? was that a joke?

cuscadan road

Place de la Comédie

Petchkasem Road

sorry but I am so completely frustrated. I have seriously been trying to figure this out for almost an entire day! The chess player I am, (and my competitive nature) I just can’t let go…

regent’s canal

orchard road

Windsor Eton, Angleterre SL4 6QY

life lifes

success

good guesses PP

perfect health

hell

brenda road

respect

knowledge

lmao. I know one thing for sure now. But I’m not telling. I imagine it will be the next hint tho. Knowing this won’t actually help solve the puzzle. my last post and all future posts will demonstrate this. hahaha

Coutts Rd (just to cover all my bases…haha)

Tower Hill…or did someone already say that?

Place de la Concorde or Place de la Révolution

diplomacy

Turin Road

I’ll just throw this out there… angel lust Hey…it meets the criterial I hinted at in my 2nd to last post.

Hampton Terrace

Dr Who’s Tardis

Police call box

Abbey Lane

The Queen Street Mental Health Centre

Triton?

Queen Mary, Globe Road

yellow brick road

The Wizard of Oz

Cowardly Lion!! Woo-Hoo!

Scarecrow!

Oz?

locked in a tower brick wall Spelling has no significance witch road 8 yr olds know it in the end this person will have thought deeply In the end it all becomes clear

and just in case Tin man

What is, ENGLAND?!

@revnobody Now if that’s not it, I give up I’m willing to bet that’s it The wizard of oz!

@transistor - I really hope someone gets it soon. My brain hurts…haha

Rapunzel

yeah I pretty much give up. I’ve had about a million revelations to no avail