I’ve planned to quit smoking for a long time now, I just failed and failed every time. I can say I never stood quit for more than 6 hours in a row, tomorrow I plan to go entirely on snuff. I read a lot of things on the health risks and I’m pretty happy to know that snuff is a lot less harmful than cigarettes. What I am confused about is the nicotine intake from snuff, sometimes I feel like too much nicotine is heating my head, even though I don;t pinch more than say 40 times during a day, but I know this depends on many things, just need to know an approximate opinion on this. How many cigarettes would 40 small pinches of regular snuff, dry mostly toques would equal in niccotine ? Wish me luck Thank you

Andrei, I wish you luck!!! First of all, take a pinch WHENEVER you start craving for a cigarette. Don’t count the pinches now, just do not light up a ciggie. Remember, you’re a puff away from a packet a day. Secondly, to use snus and snuff in combination will make it easier for you than snuff alone. Think about it.

Good luck Andrei, don’t worry about nic hit from snuff, you can control it in many ways; pinch size, type of snuff and frequensy of pinching. And as Pieter said snus (and chewing tobacco) is great, slow nicotine delivery vehicle.

Good luck, break a leg and so on. I quit 20 years ago I don’t smoke any type of tobacco. I have never smoked a cigarette or pipe or anything after the day I gave them up, you can’t even have just one cigarette if you are serious about it or you risk falling off of the wagon. Just remember you have to train your brain which will take several weeks or months it takes awhile before the urge to pick one up subsides but stick with it. Strong snus portions are a big help if you need something stronger than snuff, although I find myself using much less snus since I discovered snuff. This comment is strictly my opinion and observations and not based on any medical fact. I wish you all the best in you decision…

Pieter wrote “Secondly, to use snus and snuff in combination” I strongly second this advice!!! Also, Good luck!!

I started out with just snus (mostly extra sterks). After about 2 weeks if that I started with the snuff, Toque Quit. That was 4 1/2 months ago, now I can’t even stand the smell of cig smoke. So yes, like those above have said, snus and snuff is good combo to help stop smoking. Shit, about a month ago I went 3-4 days with NO snus or snuff and didn’t feel the way I did when I would go without cigs for 3-4 days, I guess I could have actually quit nicotine all together then but don’t want to. FYI, I was a 1 1/2 - 2 pack of Newports a day smoker. Fury

Good luck man. My girlfriend and I quit smoking 3 weeks and 2 days ago using snuff, and like Pieter said, have a pinch whenever you feel like you need a cigarette. I was having a pinch roughly every 30 minutes for the first week I had quit smoking, but I’ve noticed the frequency of me needing one has been reduced and now its 60-90 minutes.

all this is very good advice you are getting here, snus and all also think about getting an e-cig to help get rid of some of the other parts of actual smoking what I have done at times is a combination of snus, snuff and having the e-cig (which they are finding out donest’ really give a lot of nicotine on its own, but still, some I guess – and you get all the cigarette action especially if you get one of the smaller models that really is like a cigarette, you get the lit looking end lighting up, a smokey mist to send through your mouth and nose) I find if I get too bad at wanting a cigarette I take pinches of snuff (for me an american scotch works best for this but thats not a newbie snuff, maybe try one of the toque toasts if you have one) then send e-cig ‘smoke’ through my mouth and nose and then its just like the e-cig made the snuff smell and I get all satisfied like I smoked without smoking (and if I really need to I have a general mini portion in my lip when I do this) EDITED to add – this morning when I woke up I had a big craving for a cigarette but I just sat here and had a bunch of snuff instead (no e-cig no snus) so I am getting better. I have gone a few weeks at a time without givng in and so far I am on my longest stretch its been at least more than 2 weeks now (I lost track of just when I had the last one).

My pseudo science says 3 pinchs = one cig.

A person’s Mind and Body can be fierce enemies. You have just started a fight between them, changing the usual daily ritual. That’s Ok., especially if you realize that it’s happening. I remember when I would quit, I would stop to get gas and say to myself," yeah, just getting a cup of coffee…yes, sir, that’s all…" And as I checked out I would point to a pack of cigs and say 'Yeah, gimme one of those", in almost a dream state. I couldn’t believe I had a pack on me when I got back in the car!! You must always be watching yourself in the beginning. It sounds crazy, but you can be your own worse enemy (in many things in life) especially in quitting cigarettes. Remember, there is always a way out of having that 1st cig.( Firstly, use snus and snuff to help you. ) Drop down -do 20 push-ups Take 10 deep breathes Jog Cat-o-nine tails, etc. But always stay positive–believe it is possible. It is. And laugh at yourself. Count yer blessings. Good luck

For the snus end of things check out http://www.snuson.com/index.php They have a lot of good folks there many of whom post over here on snuffhouse as well.

Hey for those of us who are not real bright, how does one insert a link into the text? Thus, in my post just above this one, how would I have made the web address I provided an active link?

Link To The Snuson ForumJust switch to (HTML) format and select insert link.

When I hit the link option this is what I get " nullWhen I hit the link option this is what I get" What am I doing or not doing?

Good luck on your endeavours! Hope that you’re able to quit!

I haven’t had a cig since saturday before last. though chewin tobaccy and snuff have helped out a lot.

@Snifs To enter a link, do not use the “add link” command on the tool bar above. I cannot even enter it, or the command will appear as a link. Use brackets [the word “url”], paste the link, and then [/ the word “url”]. Bracket url and then bracket /url.

I’ll go with snuff and try quitting cigarettes. Snuff is not as bad to your health after all. This is my first day of quiting as well. Cigarettes are only making me weak, depressed and I can’t do my daily tasks anymore. I am averaging 30 a day now. I have around 30 boxes of snuff and will concentrate on those, to avoid bad withdrawals. Guys nicotine is a damn nasty drug but not as bad as all the substances and the tar that cigarettes contain. It is not the nicotine that can give you cancer but the tar and all the other heavy metals in cigarettes such as mercury and lead. I’ll be posting my daily updates on this journal Andrei is my twin brother by the way I am Alex nice to meet you guys Al.

Thank you for all your encouraging comments. I will try my best to remain on snuff alone the whole day. I find myself helpless towards the psychological dependence rather than the physical one, so basically snuff will not be able to fight much with the first one. Anyway thank you all again for the encouraging words,I hope I will come and post my victory here (thanks to snuff) in a few weeks time Edit: Welcome to the forum Alex

Thanks LHB Tried it and realized it’s got to be in the BBCode mode to work. Now it’s working like a charm. [url]http://www.snuson.com/index.php[/url]

Seeing as Twins have the ability to communicate from far distances with only their minds,( as well as other skills: voice throwing, counting cards, etc.), you two may find quitting easier than you think.

Nicotine is one of the most gripping drugs. You are setting out on a difficult task of quitting smoking. Quitting nicotine all together is monumental. I think you’ll find it easier than you think because you are substituting the delivery vehicle and because of that it’s largely behavior modification. Personally, I think that your body gets addicted to other things in the cigs along w/ the nic but I have no scientific basis for that statement. Snus works great for the oral fixation aspect of smoking. Snuff give a more rapid delivery of the nic. Still not as much as a cig but certainly faster than snus. Many people say not to worry about it. Snus and snuff will gradually win you over. Though this would take the stress out of it all I couldn’t do it. I had to make a definite break from cigs. Snus and snuff weren’t in my life when I quit but they have certainly prevented me from going back to smoking.

Cigarettes are a quick nicotine delivery system but not as much nicotine as snus. Snuff is also quick. Snus are a slower delivery method but stronger and more lasting. Snuff for the instant relief, snus for long lasting relief, that’s why the combination works well. Disclaimer: this is not based on scientific measurement, but on personal observation.

If it makes you feel better, contrary to popular belief, the withdrawals from quitting nicotine are nowhere near as painful as the withdrawals from narcotics, or even a physical dependence on alcohol. You’ll be OK, especially with a nicotine substitution system.

Okay guys I gotta tell you somethign… there is something with me and the every week or every two or every few week ‘barrier’ and 'personal catastrophes today’s Catastrophe Du Jour is living in a high rise (really high rise) with no elevators (so we’re really trapped in here now and anybody outside is really trapped outside) and the intercom going off every few minutes blabbing away about this. but am I smoking? Nope nope! This makes the second personal catastrophe type of event in at least as many weeks that I will have made it through without reaching for a cigarette. (Editted to add, but you’d better believe I am seriously banging away on my snuffs at this point! I might step out on the balcony for a ‘fake smoke,’ the e-cig) PS, my big lumbersome cat, caught between me walking and the intercom going off made one of those mad cat dashes and ran himself head first with one of those really funny (and thankfully harmless) soft ‘thud’ sounds, flat topside of his flat cat head first, right into the side a cardboard box which, I’ve got to admit, was pretty damned funny (and now the danger of risk of smoking is significantly reduced, I’m not stressing nearly as bad as I was – life could be worse, instead of being me, I could be the flat-headed clumsy cat living with me!) (moral of the story on this last edit – don’t forget humor and lauging, they are very helpful and powerful coping tools.)

Good luck to you Andrei! I originally started last summer with a slow transition from cigarettes to e-cigs. I found out after being cigarette free for 8-9 weeks that there are other chemicals in tobacco that I was missing besides the nicotine. Since then I have started using snus and now am testing out snuff. I hope this works for you.

I quit last year using snuff alone, to be honest i was expecting doom and gloom and to be sat in bed on a night shaking and sweating but the reality is totally different, i would even go so far as to say i found the whole process surprisingly easy - the nicotine in snuff is more than enough to replace that which you get from the cigarettes so nicotine wit-drawl wont be a problem and the ritual of smoking is replaced by the ritual of snuffing - no stress, no drama, if you want to quit and you are ready to then you can!

I’m glad to see its been easy for some of you, it really is an encouragement for me. It has been a tough day for me today, all kinds of symptoms from smoking withdrawal invade me every time I attempt to quit. Hope tomorrow will be a better day

I’m not going to lie to you and tell you its a total ‘cake walk’ (I have a rare disorder that makes things not heal well on me and I honestly think my ‘smoking neurons’ in my head just don’t heal well at all then either) so I get stuck in the phase most people only have for a few weeks, apparently for the rest of my life… but I am making it, this IS do-able and while stuff can still sneak up and trip you up (like say, disaster days… this one has had actually more things beside the elevator since I wrote that but I’m just not even going to talk about it)… disaster days are the things that put me at biggest risk but I know every time I get past one and don’t smoke thats more time for my slow-going slow-healing 'nicotine neuroon’s to have a chance to heal up and snuff and snus (and even the e-cig) do make this much less of a tortured thing (and I really do like snuff and that really helps.) you might be having a harder time right now, but just remember you will probably surpass me at this in a few weeks, this will gradually keep getting better for you, it does for most people (just don’t let disaster days get you and have a laugh once in a while when you can)

I believe all the chemicals (including nicotine) are water soluble so that means in a healthy body you’ll be pretty much clear of these after 72 hours or so. After that it’s all about mental dependence. Don’t get me wrong, that’s the hardest part but at least you know that it’s not the chemicals. I remember getting a little depressed. I slept more. I ate more (ugh). Then I got on with things. Also, think about how proud you’ll be of yourself when the dependence is broken. Keep posting too, I think that support helps. I think it took me about two years to go thorough a situation where I would normally smoke and not have the desire to smoke. They get fewer and farther between and they do go away eventually.

Good on you, Andrei! Good Luck! And check out this thread for more useful insights: http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/3341/1/switching-to-snuff-entirely/

Andrei, hang in there. I think goodkitchen is right about the posting. I truly believe that the posting helps. I am new on this forum but have been on another one for several months and have been amazed by the amount of people out there willing to listen, talk, and help.

Andrei, this is how I did it: I had tried dozens of times from going cold turkey to standard NRT. Nothing worked and it eventually got to the point where I quit quitting. However, in 07 in the UK there came into force a national smoking ban in alll public buildings, pubs, bars and eating places. As a user of all those venues I started to find it really hard work going outside for a smoke, often just standing on the street like a bum. So, I started taking snuff (after using it on and off for years) if I was in a bar etc and found that it really helped; I simply took a pinch when I wanted a cigarette. I gave it a go at work and at home, just substituting whenever I needed a smoke and amazingly the addiction just switched from cigarettes to snuff. But the main thing, and the thing that made me succeed I think, was that I never said to myself ‘I’m never going to smoke again’ - and the minute things get too bad Ill have a cig, and without any guilt. I can’t account for it but knowing I was ‘allowed’ a cigarette if I needed one badly enough just made it easy somehow. My main tips for anyone, from this experience, are: 1. Take it a day at a time 2. Forget about guilt or giving yourself a hard time if you smoke - its your body 3. Allow yourself one if you are going insane 4. Just keep on substituting. 5. Try and have similar rituals to when you smoked - after a meal, etc etc 6. Get a nice snuff box and make it a really pleasant ‘hobby’ as well 7. Take your time. Anyway, it worked for me, but wishing you all best with it Snuffster

I can vouch for everything that snuffster said - that’s exactly how I approached giving up the fags. With the help of snuff and snus, a positive attitude and the very occasional RYO on ‘disaster days’ (as described by whistlrr), I have broken the back of a 25+ year cigarette dependency. Just stick with it, Andrei - you can do it.

I do agree with Snuffster and Toffeenose. That seven point list is a good one and pretty much mirrors my approach. Yes, I still occasionally weaken and have a roll up and I never intended to go without my pipes anyway, but overall I’m pleased with the way things have gone. The real test was when I was in hospital last year. No chance for a smoke for a couple of weeks and I managed it just fine, thanks to the row of snuff boxes on my bedside table. The nurses seemed quite fascinated by it all. And I’m dealing with a 40 year habit…

I find it also helps to think about how gross smokers smell!

Yep, I had a cigarette last week for no other reason than absent mindedly accepting one from a smoker in the back yard at work. The taste was repulsive and I noticed the smell on my clothes all day. I cant work out how I used to do that 30 times a day and think I was enjoying it! There is one hardlly ever mentioned thing about cigarettes: they have to be the biggest confidence trick going.

I really hate the way smokers smell. Not pipe or cigar smokers just cigarettes. It’s amazing too how far away you can smell them. Which actualy made it easier to quit too, thinking about how rude and gross I was being to non-smokers. It amazes me how many smokers won’t dip because spitting is “gross”.

Its the way that addiction messes with the mind. I get more and more to disliking it as time passes. Im not one of those evangelical non smokers and I don’t care if people smoke in my house, its just gross when its on me. The best thing I ever heard about cigarettes was from that stop smoking guy (Allan Carr? possibly) - he said that the so called pleasure from smoking was just the same as taking off a pair of shoes that hurt, so the cigarette just relieves the discomfort of wanting one, it doesn’t actually give any pleasure. He said cigs were a con trick and I believe him now.

big motivators for quitting, nevermind costs and health, additionally for me have been: 1. trying to hide a habit I was extremely ashamed of (even with the snuff I still hate that in the course of discussing it I’ve invariably had to admit that ‘yeah I smoked") which while smoke led to a whole lot of 1a. knowing (from other quit attempts that lasted sometimes a few months before relapse) even as I smoked that I and my apartment reeked, badly. I got very good at not smoking around others, been really good about not smoking in my own apartment while or for hours before I knew a non smoker (which is just about everybody I know except for one person, the one I would let know, we were co-conspirators in my secret and in actually smoking together), even if nobody saw me smoking, they knew I was and I hated that. Some people on having me admit it while still smoking acted amazed “you smoke? I never would have guessed” but I figure they had to be just being polite because I knew even then (and am reminded again now as I haven’t smoked in a while) how badly it reeks on people even hours later, its in just your skin clothes and hair etc until you wash. I absolutely hated getting caught off guard in here while smoking or immediately after and having to sheepishly say “you caught me smoking” 1b having to try to air out apartment, hiding the one little ashtray I let myself have (there are personal reasons I went to extremes to hide my smoking habit that are a bit outside the norm, just trust me, I had my reasons) 2. Fire hazard, burn marks in my clothes, burn marks on my desk, burn marks in the carpet all around here where I sit at my computer… and lets talk about my tar and nicotine-coated innards of my computer for living in a state where its always too hot and humid or single digit degrees with windhil and you go oh f… it’ and sit here with the computer and line its fans and heatsinks and grub it up so it quits and then repair guys get into it, see all that and look you like you re a class act idiot (and that’s exactly what you feel like for it too).

I think there is still a bigger percentage of people that smoke in the UK and the ‘shame’ factor is not fully evident, but its getting there. The more I think of it I keep coming back to this feeling of ‘what the hell was I doing all those years??’ I can’t believe I smoked for 30 years, 30 cigarettes a day. The tragedy is that tobacco is a wonderful pleasure and that so many people could enjoy it with no more health concerns than a coffee drinker and annoy absolutely no one. The health faschists have a lot to answer for in not positively promoting snuff - especially here in the UK where the manufacturers can not so much as take out an ad in an adult magazine or newspaper.

Its very interesting to see how many people actually regret their years of smoking. I haven’t smoked for more than 14 yeas and regularly fo 12 years, but I’m very young just 25 as I write this post. I have had some serious health problems witch have contributed to my quit attempts a lot, probably if I would have been healthy I might not have thought to quit so early, or maybe never? Snuffster I like the way you thought things a lot, after all we need to encourage ourselves in any way possible. Knowing that a smoke will be allowed if in any case the symptoms of withdrawal are too drastic, is like having a pill to treat the disease. I believe its not that bad after all in rehabs the drug addicts are put on almost the same chemicals that they’ve used while being addicted, if I am not mistaken, just smaller doses that are gradually minimized until they are given fake pills that look the same. Anyway we are far from having any symptom near to what I’ve seen in drug withdrawal, but again i like the way you put it all together snuffster. Thank you for all the other encouraging posts as well. Another bad day. Looking for a better one tomorow

Absoultely snuffster. I’am really happy that I can breath now and such.

Thanks guys, onwards and upwards!