Am I the only one who hates the disgusting photo of a man’s bleeding destroyed jaw and bloody gaping hole in the side of his mouth on the side of 6-Photo Kailash tins above the “Tobacco Kills” warning?
It pisses me off, because the tin is otherwise so awesome with all the cool 6-Photo logos and pretty images of Indian landscapes, I want to show it off but instead I keep the tin hidden because of their hideous image. Now besides their Medicated snuffs which come in a different sort of tin, I have 2 other 6-Photo snuffs, one is a 25g tin of Super Kailash, the other is a 30g bag of Super Chetak. Both of them say “Tobacco Kills”, but instead of that ugly image there’s a picture of a scorpion, which is actually pretty cool. So I assumed it was only a 45g tin problem, so in my most recent Mr. Snuff order, I forewent the 45g tin, which was actually on sale, and paid full price for 2 25g tins of Kailash. But then, there was the ugly horrible image yet again on the 25g tins. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can maybe cover it up? I was thinking of maybe printing out some 6-Photo logos or even the scorpion image and taping it to cover it up, although having tape on the tin might look tacky. But I want to be able to bring these tins with me and show off how cool they look, and that nasty image really ruins it.
That is indeed nasty! Here in Finland we have huge text warnings ruining he label art, but at least we don’t have these hideous pictures. Why not poison the wrappers if you really want to prevent people buying tobacco… Here’s a page that lists Indian tobacco warnings regulations: http://www.tobaccolabels.ca/countries/india/ WARNING : Don’t scroll down that page if you don’t want to see these graphic images. Also, I’ve been curious about why is the scorpion symbol a cancer warning in India. Picture of a crab (or cancer) I’d understand, but why scorpion?
Put it in a piece of bamboo with a cutout on it. Then you can rotate the can to show which picture you choose. Don’t forget to put a computer chip on it so that you can see that it might be the gruesome ghoul that gets seen the most. Or You can put the snuff in those cool prescription bottles. mmmmmm, Venom!
I have a theory that cancer is caused by psychological factors, including deeply held fears of cancer itself. If I ever get it, I hope to sue the health authorities for reinforcing that fear with these atrocious warning stickers. In Australia these days, every tobacco product must be sold in a generic black box with standardized fonts and pictures like that covering one whole side of the pack. Incidentally, the sale of plain cigarette cases has gone through the roof, so somebody’s benefiting.
Scotch Tape? That’s what I’m gonna use, they’re on some of the “new” indian snuffs too. Nasty pictures jeeze looeeze.
It gets the message across doesn’t it? No need to worry about whether you read English or Sanskrit. Don’t even have to worry about whether the consumers are literate! I remember when the warnings only pictured a scorpion. The new warnings were imposed by the Indian Government. see: http://www.tobaccopub.net/articles/new-tobacco-warnings-in-india-more-frightful Since 6 Photo is an ISO-9000 company (certified as meeting International Quality Standards) they must meet the requirements imposed upon them by government agencies. ISO certification is a prestegious certification that a few companies attempt to obtain. To the best of my knowledge, no other company producing tobacco products has even attempted to obtain ISO Certification.
Scan the “good” part of the label, tape to a Bell jar and decant the contents. End of problem! That’s what I do, anyway.
Warning labels are getting beyond ridiculous, I’m surprised they aren’t putting the most horrid car crash pics they can find on new cars
To be fair oral use of snuff definitely can cause some pretty nasty cancers. Not as likely to as smoking but it can. Nasal use is much safer, for one thing the quantity used is so much smaller, for another nasal cancer is a far rarer cancer. If it makes anyone feel any better I actually found a page that measured the lead, arsenic, and cadmium content of several Indian snuffs including a black Madras and the Sugandh Sagar Rose Indiansnuff has been selling and they were well within safe limits, the same you see in food. Maybe they should put pictures on the snuff-tins encouraging people to sniff it rather than use it as tooth-powder!
The problem is that all oral tobacco is put in the same package when using health warnings. I don´t believe that snuff use is totally free of health risks, but I think that the man of the photo is more likely to be a frequent naswar user (as they put the portion between cheek and jaw) that to use snuff orally (more linked to women).
Since we are on the topic of disgusting warning labels, anyone seen Canadian cigarette packs? lol “MAY CAUSE BLINDNESS” with a picture of a syringe going into an eyeball.
Scan the “good” part of the label, tape to a Bell jar and decant the contents. End of problem! That’s what I do, anyway.
Well that sounds a bit too complicated, I don’t have a bell jar, and I’m not sure how I could go about scanning all the sides of a circular tin. I actually like the 6-Photo tin, I like the cool logos and landscape images and Hindi script, it’s just that one ugly image that ruins it for me. Ultimately what I ended up doing was googling an image of the 6 Photo logo, cropping and resizing it, and printing 3 of them out on glossy paper. Then I taped it over the nasty image with clear Scotch tape on my 45g tin and 2 25g tins. Not an ideal solution, you can see the tape on the jar, you can clearly see parts that it is covering up some other picture behind it, and the image is identical to the 6-Photo logo printed on the can right next to it, but at least I no longer have to look at a bloody gaping hole in the side of a man’s mouth, and I’m not embarrassed to take the tin out. While it is my understanding that in India it is much more common to use snuff orally, it is still rather an ironic and ridiculous photo for those of us who only use it as a nasal snuff! Curiously, the two 6-Photo Medicated snuffs I have (No. 6 and No. 66) both came in tins with just the generic European “This tobacco product can damage your health and is addictive” message, with no nasty bloody pictures or scorpions or anything. My hypothesis would be that 6-Photo only produced those particular products for sale in European markets, though it’s still kind of odd. In fact the warning message is just written in inoffensive tiny white letters written in a circular fashion along the bottom of the round tin, fitting right in with the label color scheme, not even the big ugly separate black-on-white label that can sometimes take up half the can and ruin the labels of a lot of European snuffs.
funny thing just got the 200 grams tin of this snuff and I love it love it. I even love the gross picture, adds a lynchian quality to the snuff tin.
let me call a wambulance for this stimulating thread :(( 8-X 8-X 8-X 8-X 8-X 8-X
@basement_shaman While you are free to disagree with me about my opinions here and in the thread about Stammheimer Hopfen Schnupf, it would be nice if you could show a little respect for other people and their opinions. If you disagree with something I say, you can disagree in a respectful, polite, adult way. If you don’t think the topics I start are worthy of discussion, then I don’t see why you would even feel the need to post in them. If you made a thread about a topic I didn’t find interesting or “stimulating”, I simply wouldn’t post in it, I would not feel the need to make some rude and demeaning post about the thread and the member who created it. I had thought we had moved past our initial negative exchange where you insulted and threatened me, and had hoped we could become friends, but for a man in his 50s, you really need to learn some sense of respect and decorum, to act like an adult. In case your mother never taught you: if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all.
I do not care so much about the picture. I personally have a strong stomach. I think the fact that it says tobacco kills on the can, pisses me of,f hell of a lot more than the picture disgusts me. Then again, across the board I hate warning labels because I feel like they are kind of insulting. I think as an adult I will use the damn product and take my chances. @DivinusSalviarum I am sorry to disagree with you, but I personally do not find the picture grotesque. If you have a problem with the picture I would say just cover it up with a piece of electrical tape.
I do not care so much about the picture. I personally have a strong stomach. I think the fact that it says tobacco kills on the can, pisses me of,f hell of a lot more than the picture disgusts me. Then again, across the board I hate warning labels because I feel like they are kind of insulting. I think as an adult I will use the damn product and take my chances. @DivinusSalviarum I am sorry to disagree with you, but I personally do not find the picture grotesque. If you have a problem with the picture I would say just cover it up with a piece of electrical tape.
Eh I think the picture being grotesque is kind of an indisputable point. It’s supposed to be grotesque and disgusting and repulsive, in order to scare people away from using tobacco products. That’s the point. If you don’t find a graphic image of a gaping bleeding hole in the side of a man’s face where his jaw has been destroyed and torn up by cancer to be grotesque…then that raises some disturbing questions about your mindset. It’s one thing to say you don’t personally mind the photo being on there, but to say it is not grotesque and disgusting is kinda creepy and out-there. 8-X
and it is for India a very large country were a large issue of literacy in some parts of the country so the picture does make more sense then in a smaller country where health information is easier to spread. Or at least that’s another way to look at it.
let me call a wambulance for this stimulating thread :(( 8-X 8-X 8-X 8-X 8-X 8-X
And i pretty much get a bollocking when i talk about thread spamming… I agree, the label shown is horrendous. i guess its cheaper for them to just produce one tin for every market though… but it really will prevent me from using it in public, or using it around people i know. my girlfriend knows i snuff, and my mum knows i snuff and they are fine with it, im not sure how accepting they will be if i pull out a tin with that on it. it could quite easily ruin the image of every snuff i have.
Well,I agree that the warning picture is a real put off,the good news is that Kailash snuff and all our other snuff is now available with mr.snuff in new vacuum sealed tins,those as used for medicated snuffs without picture warnings.
@Vikas Would you get in trouble if any of these containers without the picture ever found their way back to India?
In India rules are made, not enforced. Even today many tobacco products in India are available without proper warning labs on them. They skirt the regulation by not putting the date of packing or using a date prior to the rule.
Well,I agree that the warning picture is a real put off,the good news is that Kailash snuff and all our other snuff is now available with mr.snuff in new vacuum sealed tins,those as used for medicated snuffs without picture warnings.
Oh yeah I love the Kailash tins, it’s just that one big ugly picture that ruins them. But are you saying that 6-Photo Kailash will now be sold in vacuum sealed tins just like the Medicated ones I posted a photo of above? I literally just received the Kailash order this week, and it came in the traditional tins like the ones pictured in the OP. Will the traditional tins still be available, or is 6-Photo converting all of their snuff products to the vacuum sealed tins?
still not as bad as the Australian cigarette packs
All the six photo snuff range is now available at mister snuff in new vacuum sealed tins along with the tradtional tins
All the six photo snuff range is now available at mister snuff in new vacuum sealed tins along with the tradtional tins
Going slightly off topic, I was surprised to see that the 25g tin of SG Black Coffee I bought recently doesn’t show any warning labels at all. Not that I’m complaining…
Really gross photos, I agree. Couldn’t help but notice the “controlled substance”, “no refill” pill bottles in the pic. Hmmm…
I don’t really care about the images on the side of the pack, but I wouldn’t want the uninformed to think I was using a deadly drug and I get sick of having to explain that I don’t think snuff falls into that category. But that’s what little plastic snuff boxes are for anyway. I don’t usually carry around a large tin of Cheeta and pull it out to snuff from it anyway. I put it in a nice snuffbox, where it belongs.
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And i pretty much get a bollocking when i talk about thread spamming… I agree, the label shown is horrendous. i guess its cheaper for them to just produce one tin for every market though… but it really will prevent me from using it in public, or using it around people i know. my girlfriend knows i snuff, and my mum knows i snuff and they are fine with it, im not sure how accepting they will be if i pull out a tin with that on it. it could quite easily ruin the image of every snuff i have.
Thanks for the support on basemanshaman’s nasty thread spamming. Just fyi, it is rather disturbing, and to be honest reflects rather poorly on the clientele of Snuff House, that such a useless, pointless, nasty, insulting, demeaning spam post by basementshaman, which provided absolutely no positive contribution to the thread, got so many “Likes” and “Agrees” (4 likes and 2 agrees), and now that useless thread spam is lit in bright white as if it were some sort of wonderful worthwhile contribution to the discussion. It was a garbage post by basementshaman. I’m glad I got 2 likes to my response to his post, but FFS, is this the sort of childish low-brow standard of discourse to expect from Snuff House members, @Jari_T @Firestarter0? It’s rather off-putting. Not sure if it’s worth wasting my time trying to engage in intelligent discussions on this forum with a man in his 50s who doesn’t know how to act like an adult, along with a bunch of similarly juvenile buffoons who “like” and “agree” with such immature tripe.
Spamming? Spamming is unsolicited advertisement usually found in emails, I don’t see any of that going on in this thread and I liked it because it made me laugh, comic relief is always welcome
All the six photo snuff range is now available at mister snuff in new vacuum sealed tins along with the tradtional tins
Ah, good to know, although I don’t see it listed in Mr. Snuff’s website. (I know you had also previously stated that Medicated No. 666 would be offered on Mr. Snuff “by next week” several weeks ago, but it never appeared, it fact it’s still not available, so I’m rather disappointed, since I love Medicated No. 6 and No. 66 so much! :x Do you know if 666 will ever be available in smaller sizes on Mr. Snuff? Even the 200g tin was and is out-of-stock, so I had no option to buy 666 on my recent big order! :(( ) I really like the vacuum sealed tins on the 6-Photo Medicated snuffs, as I said the tobacco health warning is even smaller and less offensive than on most European snuffs, no big ugly black-on-white label that takes up half the tin like on McChrystal’s or Wilson’s of Sharrow tins, though it still is rather disappointing that it had to come to that since I otherwise love the cool unique images and logos on the current 6-Photo Kailash tins. =(( But in any event, I look forward to buying many more 6-Photo snuffs of all varieties in the future.
Spamming? Spamming is unsolicited advertisement usually found in emails, I don’t see any of that going on in this thread
Spam refers to useless garbage posts that only serve to increase the poster’s post count. It’s thread spam. If you have an issue with terminology, then consider it simply as posting worthless garbage that contributes nothing positive or worthwhile to a thread. That describes basemanshaman’s post, which proved oh-so-popular with certain characters on this forum.
^ I consider making people laugh to be one of the most positive things in the world so I’m in total disagreement with you there. When you got an issue grab a tissue don’t go throwing your tears at other people
^ I consider making people laugh to be one of the most positive things in the world so I’m in total disagreement with you there. When you got an issue grab a tissue don’t go throwing your tears at other people
As long as “you” guys are fine, everything is. Right ? Snuffhouse elite club ? You make me laught.
^ I consider making people laugh to be one of the most positive things in the world so I’m in total disagreement with you there. When you got an issue grab a tissue don’t go throwing your tears at other people
Actually I can consider making people laugh to be one of the most positive things in the world, I’m in total agreement with you there. On the other hand, I consider worthless, childish, negative, demeaning, garbage posts that contribute nothing to a discussion and drag down the whole level of discourse on a forum… to be rather a negative thing. And the fact that such a post got so many “Likes” and “Agrees” is disturbing to me as someone who prefers to engage in mature intelligent discussion about topics, I don’t want to waste my time trying to engage in intelligent discussion on a forum filled with immature dunces who would consider such a garbage post to be worthy of a “Like” or “Agree”.
^ I consider making people laugh to be one of the most positive things in the world so I’m in total disagreement with you there. When you got an issue grab a tissue don’t go throwing your tears at other people
As long as “you” guys are fine, everything is. Right ? Snuffhouse elite club ? You make me laught.
that’s funny, you made me laugh. You’ve been here two years why don’t you join, prepare yourself your going to be so so disappointed
“A forum full of immature dunces” You come to such an assumption based on 4 likes and 2 agrees, someone needs to calm down a tad and get a sense of perspective.
guys, cool it. i am against shaman’s post as it was nothing useful, just trying to belittle others. im not sure if the ISTA has gone to his head, he had a momentary lapse of judgement or his true colours are showing, as ive usually appreciated his input in the past, but that post was unnecessary and not nice at all. humour is fine, but i wouldnt call that humour. i happen to agree with the subject of this thread. maybe its not up to the ‘usefulness’ standards of your private little posts within the ISTA, but it is out in the general forum, and it fits right in. Arguing however, doesnt really fit in, whichever ‘side’ we are on. so maybe lets try and stick to contributing and enjoying our time on this forum, and find somewhere else more suited if we wish to argue or ‘make people laugh’ at the expense of others and to the detriment of the discussion.
haha. The power ddynamics of a snuff forum. Amazing that a community of so few people can find things like this to fight over. I wouldn’t have even noticed basement’s comment if not for the detailed analysis and discussion that followed. Don’t worry about him. He’s solid on Dholakia recommendations, a bit flakey on blood pressure control. Just pick the useful comments on the forum and enjoy them, whoever writes them.
@jakartaboy i feel inclined to agree with you, but i guess OP was going to notice it since it was aimed at him, and i noticed it since i was ‘slapped on the wrist’ i guess recently for less… to me his comment amounted to slander. i love the forum, it can be a great tool, and i dont want comments like that (or the apparent support for them) to put people off posting for fear that their problem is too ‘un-stimulating’ for those that seem to feel superior.
^ I consider making people laugh to be one of the most positive things in the world so I’m in total disagreement with you there. When you got an issue grab a tissue don’t go throwing your tears at other people
As long as “you” guys are fine, everything is. Right ? Snuffhouse elite club ? You make me laught.
that’s funny, you made me laugh. You’ve been here two years why don’t you join, prepare yourself your going to be so so disappointed
What are you talking about ? Disappointed about what ? You know in Germany teens on the street call people like you “victim”. I can quite resist your non-sense. Go to your comrades basement and play your games. By the way, i am on here for 4 years. Thank you. Keep laughting. I dont care.
“A forum full of immature dunces” You come to such an assumption based on 4 likes and 2 agrees, someone needs to calm down a tad and get a sense of perspective.
Oh I think a trashy post like that getting a single ‘Like’ would cast a negative light on basementshaman and the fool who “Liked” him. But getting 6 active endorsements from other posters, and thus having his post highlighted in white as if it were some sort of unique positive contribution, would be enough to cast doubt on what sort of people are populating this forum. It’s more than enough ‘perspective’ on this forum, and not a positive one. On a forum filled with mature respectful adults, a post like that would not receive a single “Like” or “Agree”. It would not have even fallen upon myself to defend myself and my thread, other posters would have chimed in right away to say such a post by basementshaman is useless, contributes nothing, and is just totally inappropriate, rude, and offensive- and he should apologize for it. His post was mean-spirited garbage that contributed nothing positive to the thread. Other posters should have told him his post was uncalled for and that he shouldn’t be mocking posters for making threads that are not “stimulating” enough to his taste. If the thread topic were not “stimulating” to basemanshaman, then it would have been easy enough for him to just click right out of the thread and ignore it. I don’t post in threads I’m not interested in, if a topic doesn’t interest me, I don’t spend time posting in it, I don’t make a point of berating the thread starter for making a topic that’s not “stimulating” enough for me. If he wanted to express disagreement with my point of view, the adult mature way, would be to say something like “I understand why you are bothered by the image, but personally it doesn’t bother me”. Again, BASEMENTSHAMAN IS A MAN IN HIS 50s , not a child, yet his post sounds like something written by a bratty 13-year-old. He is not a child, he is a middle-aged man, he has no excuse. But I guess, even though I’ve technically been a member of Snuff House longer than basemanshaman, I haven’t yet mastered the power dynamics that evidently dominate the Snuff House community. Rather disappointing that such a situation would exist, rather than have an open forum where each and every poster, new and old, should feel free to discuss any snuff-related topic without fear of being berated. Basementshaman’s post, and the overall reaction of the community to his post, are enough to deter me from making further new threads and posts on Snuff House…which may be exactly the goal of the clique of old-time posters who want to make new posters feel unwelcome and don’t want to create a comfortable environment for new posters to share their own points of view and start topics that are of interest to them.
^ I consider making people laugh to be one of the most positive things in the world so I’m in total disagreement with you there. When you got an issue grab a tissue don’t go throwing your tears at other people
As long as “you” guys are fine, everything is. Right ? Snuffhouse elite club ? You make me laught.
that’s funny, you made me laugh. You’ve been here two years why don’t you join, prepare yourself your going to be so so disappointed
What are you talking about ? Disappointed about what ? You know in Germany teens on the street call people like you “victim”. I can quite resist your non-sense. Go to your comrades basement and play your games. By the way, i am on here for 4 years. Thank you. Keep laughting. I dont care.
Disappointed about what actually goes on there obviously, but what are you talking about? I’m a “victim”? Victim of what… your stupidity? And everyone is all pissy about ISTA because they haven’t been here long enough to be a member but you god only knows what your problem is, I think you just like to bitch and whine, you know in Canada we call people like that “bitches”
Right so let me get this straight @DivinusSalviarum, I understand why you’re offended at basement_shaman’s post but I personally don’t see the need to generalise against other forum users based solely on 4 likes and 2 agrees. I saw his remarks and ignored them for the childish dribble that they were and I suspect many other users did the same, not willing to give him attention for it.
@jwhiteside91 ignore it and dont give him negative attention for it so the only attention he gets is positive? i say no chance. as for even @divinussalviarum, i think we got the point across now. not much use escalating it further.
@Firestarter0 you need to understand the nature of people like basement_shaman, he posted an inflammatory remark simply to get a reaction, regardless of whether its positive or negative. What has happened is that what was an enjoyable thread has been derailed and generalisations thrown around like confetti, in other words the troll has succeeded. The best course of action is to flag the comment as spam and let the mods deal with it.
Mistakes happens all the time, mistakes are for humans. At the end forgiveness is everything
true. i forgot about the flagging function.
It’s kind of interesting how much NEGATIVE discussion one “NEGATIVE” comment has made.
It’s kind of interesting how much NEGATIVE discussion one “NEGATIVE” comment has made.
Agreed. Whether or not Shamman’s comment was ill-advised, it was one comment. He is not the one derailing the thread. Let’s move on…
agreed. just think, no comment from shaman, this wouldve been fine. it is amazing what one uncalled for negative comment can do.