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Joseph “Joe” Jarvinen lives up in Minnesota, and he’s a very talented wood-carver.  He’s been sharing photos of a shoe-shaped snuff box he is working on, and I wanted to brag on him a bit and share his progress so far.  The shoe will eventually have copper laces and brass hinges, and an oil-rubbed finish.  I think its pretty cool seeing a shoe-shaped snuff box being made by a modern craftsman.  It looks amazing so far…

Mark

In the photo below, Joe has shaped out the graceful shoe.

In the photo below, Joe has refined the shape and details.

In the photo below, Joe has applied the first oil-rubbed finish to the shoe.

The photo below is after the 2nd oil-rubbed coat has been applied.

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I never understood the significance of the shoe shape snuffbox? I seen plenty, there must been some cobbler whom loved snuff and his passion for shoes for this marriage to come to fruition. It be great to find some history on this obsession. maybe your carver “Joe” Jarvinen would know  

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Shoes are a secret class signifier. In past times you could walk into a coffee house and look like Beau Brummel, but the first thing the others will look at is your shoes to judge whether you are are the real thing or a poseur.

In contemporary affluent society a similar thing happens, to both men and women. Especially in this age when even old money types might go casual in Levi’s and a flannel shirt, but their shoes and watch will be the subtle sign of where they come from. Those little things mean a lot to the elite, but not so much to the other 99%.

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It is interesting how many theories on the shoe-shaped snuff boxes I have seen. You would think it would be a very clear cut, easy to identify answer. But, not so much. Here’s some of the theories I’ve read:

  1.  That because most of them are shaped like women’s shoes, that the snuff boxes belonged to women.  Women seem to like shoes, and so the suggestion is they would have be drawn to this particular shape for their snuff boxes.

  2.  Its been suggested that Victorians were a little obsessed with catching a glimpse of a woman’s shoe and ankle, and there for identified a woman’s shoes with something a bit naughty or illicit.  And thus, what better shape for a man to offer another man a pinch form, but a somewhat illicit woman’s shoe.

  3.  One source suggested that the shoes is a symbol in Freemansonry, and Judaic customs, and that went on to suggest that many shoe-shaped snuff-boxes are decorated with masonic symbols.

  4.  The same source as #3, suggested that in the Bible the shoe symbolizes the earthy in contrast with the holy, and thus the shoe-shaped snuff box was a reminder that snuff taking was an earthly vice.

5. This explanation pulls in a couple of the above, but I liked it the best. It is from this website:

Shoes are more than just a depiction of footwear here. The shoe is a romantic symbol that has been with us a long time. In the middle ages, a father would hand the bridegroom a shoe to transfer the authority he had over his daughter to her husband. Today, we tie shoes to the bumper of the honeymoon car.  Shoes and Eros are soul mates: Fetishists adore shoes as symbols of the female sex. In the Victorian age, the peek of a shoe from under the all encompassing, many layered skirts could arouse a passionate interest. Cinderella loses her shoe and it leads the prince to her, the 12 Princesses dance holes in their shoes and finally, there’s Puss in Boots!

 

Shoe- shaped snuff boxes were commonly made throughout the 18th and 19th centuries. Traditionally associated with good luck wishes, they were given as gifts for travelers and wedding couples setting off on the “journey” of marriage.

Wood, leather and metal - I know a lot of people who are experts in the field so is there a chance one of us in the craft world would want to revive the tradition? Maybe not to fill the shoe with tobacco but as a symbol of well-wishing. A craft niche to be re-filled if people only knew the story and were good at telling it. Sounds like a neat wedding gift to me. Much better than the umpteenth set of china the happy couple will never use.


And another site in support of this idea of gifts for good-luck in marriage:

Shoe and boot shaped snuff boxes were made throughout the 18th and 19th centuries. Shoes have long been associated with love and marriage and were often given for good luck.

It would make sense why we see so many examples of shoe-shaped snuff box, if there was a wedding gift tradition surrounding them, as well as a good luck to travelers tradition thrown in.  And this brings in the romantic nature of shoes, especially for the Victorians.  It just seems to be the most likely explanation to me.

Mark

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(I had to edit the post above and the post below about 10 times, because the “weird character” flaw on this message board kept cutting most of my posts out!  Ugh.)

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I enjoy this sort of mystery, so I dug a bit deeper. In “A History and Price Guide to
Miniature Shoes,” Zita Thornton has this to say:

Modern, ornamental shoes made from porcelain or resin, have

become a collectable favourite in the last few years. However, a fascination

with miniature shoes goes back thousands of years. Miniature

sandals have been found in Egyptian tombs and fashioned from ancient

Persian pottery.

When shoemaking became a highly skilled, decorative craft in the

seventeenth century, shoe makers expressed their skill in miniature too.

Until the nineteenth century, miniature shoes, as exquisite in their

detail as their full sized counterparts, became tokens of prosperity and

love and symbolised a desire to share worldly goods, hence the

tradition of hanging boots on the back of a newly wed’s car.

The emergence of porcelain brought the fashion to aristocratic

circles when elegant but expensive porcelain or enamel versions were

exchanged. In the nineteenth century the love of novelty encouraged

the manufacture of miniature shoes in a wider variety of materials such

as leather, wood and brass and brought the custom within the reach of

sentimental Victorians of all classes. The less sentimental looked for a

function in their ornamental shoes and in this they were continuing a

tradition that had its roots in ancient times. The Romans had oil lamps

shaped as a foot in a sandal, and perfume containers as hob nailed

boots. An ancient ancestor of the stirrup cup was a drinking vessel

called a rhyton, which was sometimes made in a boot shape. Victorian

gentlemen had shoes fashioned as gin flasks, umbrella handles, paper

knives and ink wells, as well as all the paraphernalia associated with

smoking and snuff taking such as snuff boxes, match holders, tobacco

jars, ashtrays and pipe stops.

I’ve seen this snuff box before, but thought I’d share an image and its story, because it give us some information on our question…

This snuff box was owned by the artist Talbot Hughes (1869-1942), who had a large collection of historic dress and accessories. The London department store Harrod’s bought the collection and gave it to the Museum in 1913 after displaying it in the store for three weeks.

 

Shoe-shaped snuff boxes were made throughout the 18th and 19th centuries, probably as gifts. This boot, with its squared toe, is in the fashion of the 1860s. Shoes were traditionally associated with good luck wishes for travellers and wedding couples setting off on the ‘journey’ of marriage. Silver-coloured shoes are still sometimes used at weddings as good luck tokens.

Mark

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What happened to your post, @basement_shaman?

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Unable to load the stiletto heels I would carve if I had the patience.I would definitely add the foot and most of the calf, of course with fishnet stockings.and may wire it as a lamp with hidden snuff box. perfect for a xmas story type gift.  

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LOL.  That would be pretty cool…in a “you’ll shoot your eye out” kind of way.

Mark

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Freemasonry has nothing to do with “Judaic customs” there is no connection between these two things and they should not be conflated.

Furthermore there is are no “Judaic customs” that would cause us to make or want to own a snuffbox shaped like a shoe. The snuffboxes I have seen are simply boxes of silver, pewter or wood, with no particular symbols or adornments.

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Yep, @Snuffbox, I was just quoting a theory from a some webpage.  Seemed incorrect (and a little dumb) to me, so I’m glad to have you confirm how dumb it was to put those two in the same sentence.  :-)

Mark

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I wrote a blog-post pulling this all together. I agree with @Snuffbox, and just removed the inclusion of “Judaic customs” from the Freemasonry false answer to avoid any confusion or conflation. Anyhow…here’s the link:


WHY ARE SOME SNUFF-BOXES SHAPED LIKE WOMEN’S SHOES?


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@markstinson - Please keep us posted on his progress…it is looking very nice thus far.

M

I definitely will.

C

Looks like Joe has a classic resonator guitar there in the background. Snuff and Delta Blues - a winning pair.

C

I have a little curiosity that I’m not sure was covered already in the thread here. Was it not that the shoe design in question was common to men’s fashion as well? I thought the high heel came from riding horses and was made fashionable by Louis IX, that old hag. The buckle also lasted quite a while on men’s shoes, even after the heels shrunk. My grandpa even told some pithy admonition about shoes on chairs because buckles scratch them.

Reading into this, what if shoe-like snuff boxes were similar to the metaphor evoked by Johnny Walker ads. Snuff gives you some kind of stamina or endurance. Like nice shoes might do.

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Yes, I agree.  Not all the shoes necessarily look like women’s shoes.  Some of them appear to possibly be men’s Victorian style shoes.  The boxes vary quite a bit.

Its funny, with any trend or tradition, there are many parts to it…and many reasons for it.

Like, what was the motivation of the first person who made a shoe-shaped snuff box?

What were the motivations of the first people with which it caught on?

What meaning did it have culturally, that the tradition spreads from there and grows?

What additional meanings does it take on over time?  What keeps it alive?

Did individuals within the larger culture have individual motivations for thinking it was cool?

So, its hard to pin down to just one meaning or purpose.  I like the your idea about stamina or endurance, as well as the idea that a little snuff puts a snap in your step.  Who knows?

It sounds like a lot of objects were made into the shape of shoes as a novelty and as a fashion, and not just snuff-boxes.  Which is sort of interesting.  

Mark

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@markstinson thanks for not going along with the conspiracy theories. They do get tiresome!

M

No problem at all.  We have enough to worry about without making stuff up to worry about.  :-)

Mark

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Well stated!