I had this (that the ‘tap boxes’ are just plain evil) re-affirmed to me yet again today. my first encounters with them were with Dholakia white and Dholakia Black the white hurled itself out of there and the Black was held captive in large chunks I could hear clattering around but could not get out (once in a while it would sort of throw one out at me in a very uncontrolled way but even then not often) Today I was trying to get a bit of "Kownoer’ out of a simplar ‘tap box’ it came in and what do you know… a big gigantic pile ended up on the back of my hand… and of course no way to put it back nowhere to put it, so as to not lose this large pile of snuff I did the only thing I could, reached for the nearest thing I had, my ‘mixing tin’ (a small former McHrystal’s S’nuff tin with the label removed) and dumped it in there in order to salvage it. there was a bit of mix of dried taxi and Dholakia Black in there so now I won’t really be able to tell what the Kownoer is like and have to use this up first. who ever came up with this tap box idea should maybe ‘take it back’ Three tapboxes (I ended up plucking the Dholakia ones apart so I could safely and reliably get at and relocate to safer saner containers and I think I’m about to do the same here, this ticks me off) you can’t see the snuff coming its captive in there and it just kind of vomits random amounts out at you, they are evil.
I used to always sniff off the hand, but nowadays, I’ve been using pinches, and with tap boxes, I’ll tap it into my palm, and use the other hand to pinch it. I’ve also been using an empty prescription pill bottle, and just dropping some in my palm and pinching that. I have a few Dholakia tappers, because I’m a lite snuffer, and just didn’t want to get 25g, so I got those. I don’t know why, but it seems the tappers are popular. I wish the Dholakias were all available in 10g rounds.
I like the SG tap-out boxes but I agree the Dholakia ones are just as bad as the GH ones. I’m not a fan of the Molens ones either. I think the opening is in the wrong place on all of those. You can always use a spoon to retrieve the snuff or a pen cap. I’ve devised an air-powered snuff spoon that I use with these boxes almost all the time. There’s no loss of snuff with this device and it affords fantastic coverage w/ no congestion. I’ve gotten away from the back-of-the-hand method due to over sniffing and getting congested not to mention giving some to the angels.
I only have experience with the Poschle President, and the Bernard Schmalzler style ‘tap boxes’. But I have no problems or issues with them. Are the Dholakia significantly different ?
No, they arn’t “bad” to me, for what they are. But they seemed more designed for sniff off the back of your hand use. The design is fine.
its not just the dholakia ones, now its this green labeled Kwonoer (its difficult to make out what part of it is its actual name without digging out snuff reviews) but its now the Kwonoer tap box too and I AM trying to tap them to the back of my hand they just either hold the snuff or spit an uncontrolled huge amount and I am venting a bit about it, sick of this. Got the Kwonoer in a ‘smash box’ now where I will either take directly from the czech tool tip or use the czech tool to drop a bit on the back of my hand (I can’t quite manage pinching, yes its a ‘personal problem’) back of the hand or from the tip of the too-huge and floppy foldy czech tool (I REALLY wish I had an actual snuff spoon no idea why these are so hard to find) I will avoid tap boxes from now on and if this is the only way something comes I think I am going to just ‘do not pass go’ and pick it apart and relocate the snuff from now on, tired of these weird little spastic useless tap boxed. I wanted to sniff my snuff not wear it and have to do an emergency mix move just to not lose the snuff EDITED to add, found it, okay here is what I am trying to say: Bernard Feinster Kownoer tap boxes are also evil, its not just Dholakia ones.
i don’t think they are evil. just not suited to some snuff types. when that is the case i decant them into something else but there are times later, when i have regretted it.
I don’t use tap boxes at home, but to me they sure are handy when I am out. That is why I use SG and GH almost exclusively when I go out.
I hate em as well. I wish some of my faves didn’t apeear in this format as I’m a spoon sniffer.
whistlrr- Some small measuring spoons make a good “snuffspoon”. http://www.pastrychef.com/assets/images/large/long\_stem\_measuring\_spoons\_large.jpg
It depends on how moist the snuff is, a dry snuff will come out in a big heap without even looking at the box but a moist one will need thumping out not tapping I quite often decant some into old No99 tins as I preferr to pinch but dont forget to put a label on the old tin to tell you what’s in it now
@tom502 I have a plastic 1/8th measuring spoon and its at least 2 x, maybe about 5 to 10 x too big to be a snuff spoon (I do use it for mixing and equal measuring when I mix and relocating snuff but its too big for sniffing purposes) my metal czehc tool is maybe about half the size of the 1/8th measuring spoon and its still too big. I use the very tip of it but it’d be really nice to find a properly sized spoon. I someytimes use this one really little flat head screwdriver but it actually doesn’t have enough surface (its the only flathead screwdriver I have thats new enough, not been used as a screwdriver and banged up and cruddied up far too much to put into my nose ‘into my nose’ because thats how I do it with the screwdriver but wouldnt’ with a spoon… I use the screwdriver for some really potent snuffs to sort of insert then tip the handle down towads my chin so I am literally placing/pressing the potent little bit of snuff into the inside tip of my nose… I’m sure there’s a better method… hoping Xander gts out of his snow storm soon and can maybe send me a few of his little sot of toy or jewelry type spare spoons)
It’s not just the over-or-under pour that annoys…I have a S.Gawith Otterhound that I like to take just before bed. But now the slider is thoroughly jammed, which raises my blood pressure ruining my sleep! Grrrrrrr! Maybe it’s some kind of intelligence test: “If we deprive the subject of his snuff, will he be able to use a tool to access it?” So far I pass, but I stand ready to just stomp it and snuff right off the floor.
don’t pin your hopes on these little dinky spoons I have. They are better than nothing, but just barely.
I’m with Tom502. I always tap a pile into my palm and pinch from that. With SG it’s easier to just decant it into a jar, as those tap boxes do have a tendency to jam.
I don’t mind the tap boxes, except the current SG Irish D light box. The snuff is so fine it seems to jam the slider which is annoying me to no end. If I didn’t love the snuff so much I’d give up.
I generally prefer pinching, but there are times when I specifically bring along a tap box because it’s convenient and more discreet. When I am sitting in a meeting with a bunch of other folks, I feel like it looks a little more gross and obvious to grab a pinch, because I have to put both fingers that are holding the pinch up to a nostril and inhale. But, with a tap box I discreetly tap a small amount on my left thumbnail (pressed up against the forefinger) and then reach up and take a quick hit off the nail. To me this seems way less noticeable and it also doesn’t get my nose as dirty.
I love tap boxes! But Polar Prise is a bitch to get out; it always clumps! Other than that though, I love them. Now if NTSU came in one, I’d really have a beef…
With clumpy snuffs in tap-boxes, I always give’em a shake before tapping.
I don’t like tapboxes at all, except for esthetic reasons: some of them look good. Tins are more practical in every sense, not just for pincher like me. I always decant my snuff to old 5 or 10g tins.