I, thanks to Tom from nicotinerush.com have taken part in the this whole nasal snuff journey and have quite liked it. My only problem is I go about 2 months on the snuff and then switch back to Copenhagen smokeless. I been a 20+ year user of Copenhagen and I find it terribly hard to quit completely. I have tried Snus, Nasal snuff, patches, gum, commit ect. Has anyone else here had this same problem? I enjoy nasal snuff but cannot find it in me to be satisfied with it alone. I want to give up Smokeless all together because nasal snuff seems to be safer. Any suggestions? anyone here fought this demon and beat it?
I used to smoke, never chewed or dipped. But in order to quit smoking I switched to snus and snuff. I just put a snus portion in whenever I felt the craving to smoke, and after that if I still wished to smoke, I did so; (with generous pinches of snuff throughout). After smoking I the nicotine overload was so unpleasant that I began to associate smoking with that sensation, and by this means I quit fairly quickly. I find it odd that snus hasn’t proven a viable substitute; maybe you need a stronger snus like General Extra Sterk? Good luck, anyway.
The snus does satisfy a little but the feel of holding a pris in my upper lip is not a normal oral fixation I am used to so i tend to go back to Copenhagen. I just ordered some General Extra Sterk. thanks for the advice Ill give it a try.
I snus, snuff, dip, and chew. I like them all. Though sometimes I think the snus is affecting my gums, and then snuff can clog me up sometimes, it’s always something, I don’t feel comfortable chewing at work with a spit cup.
@Tom Have a funnel slightly underneath your collar-line for expectoration with surgical tubing running to a collector sack in the groin area of your trousers. As the day goes on, many folks in the office may talk amongst themselves, but NONE will have the courage to confront you.
You write that nasal snuff alone does not satisfy you. Do you mean that it does not provide you with enough nicotine, or do you simply mean that you miss the particular oral fixation to which you are habituated? I never in my life used dip or chewing tobacco but I did smoke. As pretty much everyone here can tell you, it is the oral habit that is hardest to break; nicotine replacement is trivial. I don’t want to tell you or anyone else what to do, but it sounds like you feel that snus is a poor substitute for dip. That in itself can become quite the vicious circle, as the temptation is strong to return to the more satisfying habit (in your case, dip). Really, the best thing you can do is to get away from any oral tobacco product and commit yourself to nasal snuff exclusively. This is what I forced myself to do in order to quit smoking. My half-hearted attempts using similar products (pipe, cigars) failed miserably: I always ended up back on the cigarettes. So I used snus to quit smoking, but switched to nasal snuff entirely shortly thereafter. (If I had thought of nasal snuff in the first place, I probably never would have used snus. I’m not knocking snus, I just find nasal snuff a lot more satisfying in every way.) That is my experience, for what it’s worth. It does take some willpower to change your habits, but it is achievable. Most of us here have been where you are right now and we do understand. Best of luck to you. I know you can do it.
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I’ve used snuff for more then 35 years along with smoking cigarettes and pipes. Although I only smoked the cigs when working nightshifts, never at home or in my free time. I noticed that my health did go downward so I quit the cigarettes but enjoyed a pipe or two a day, started with snus but it’s not my thing really. last year I give away most of my old pipes and just two weeks ago I sold the remaining 4 (my best ones) to someone in the US. I knew that if I kept them I would sooner or later smoke them again. Quitting a habit is very difficult to do but it can be done. I promised myself some nice new snuffboxes if I sold the pipes, whenever I get the urge to smoke again I just read a bit in the snuff forums, make a new order of some snuff I haven’t tried yet, something to look forward to and take my mind of what I know I shouldn’t start with again, you know. The snuff that helped me most in quitting smoking was Rooster, it’s rather strong and fine but when I take it I don’t want any other nicotine product for the remainder of the day. I wish you lots of strength in quitting the Copenhagen!
I’ve been a smoker for 37 years off and on, and was hooked on Cope and Skoal between 1987-2000 (1 can evey 2-3 days). I have a similar problem, but I don’t consider it to be much of a problem now. I can’t completely step off. I want one or two cigarettes on most days. But compared to where I was in November, when I couldn’t think straight, I was extremely depressed, and my nerves were writhing constantly as a result of nicotine withdrawal, I’m in a very good place. I run 6 days a week, my blood pressure is below normal, and same with my cholesterol. I don’t obsess about the NA/AA “total abstinence” thing when it comes to nicotine. Snuff and snus just kind of naturally replaced smoking, little by little, over the last four months. Practice harm reduction, and congratulate yourself on moving in the right direction (as you judge it). The advice above about practising nicotine overload is good advice also. Eventually, if you continually top off with the thing you want to quit, you increasingly come to associate the unpleasant nicotine overload sensation with the thing you’re topping off with, rather than the things that you started off with.
When I first quit smoking I used a combination of mint snuff pouches for my mouth and nasal snuff for the nic. I don’t think I could have done it without both. I had heard about mint snuff on the radio, was searching the internet to find out where to buy it and found nasal snuff accidentally. I really owe my success in quiting smoking to mint snuff, nasal snuff and of course, this forum.
@Kincaidc I’d really like it if the snuff were all I needed. Someday perhaps. I came close to quitting smoking using the e-cig. For about 7 months I was at 1 or 2 smokes a week but that e-cig was in my face constantly and some of the smoking withdrawal symptoms, headache and lack of focus and concentration never entirely went away. Started using snus, 4 to 6 8mg portions a day, and haven’t had a smoke since. Per videos by Tropical Bob I gave snuff a try out of curiosity and I find I’ve a perfect marriage of tobacco based pleasures. I snus to maintain, vape for distraction and snuff for pleasure! (-; After a few months using snuff, trying several types and selecting what I use based on circumstance and environment at the time, it’s possible for me to imagine going with the snuff alone…
I just recently quit smoking (a little over a week ago) like many have said I had to use both snus and snuff to get to a place where I felt physically comfortable. Mentally the cravings are still there but I don’t have the nicotine monkey on my back, so it’s bearable. I have noticed that I am enjoying snuff a lot more since I quit smoking, mainly because I can smell things better. When it comes to the action of the cigarette with my hands, I have to find a replacement. In my case I picked up learning the guitar. It helps me with the hands and it is rewarding! I hope you can make the switch and I am wishing you the best!
Give www.killthecan.org a try.
I have an entirely different situation. I’m a chef in a restaurant - high stress. When I come home I’m fine with my snuffs. But at work it’s not enough - I need a smoke. lol I suppose I could switch to chew. lol anyone mind some tobaccy in their pistou? hahaha!
chefing is high stress. Main reason I started snusing for the constant nic.
yeah, i’ve got a little tin of some general snus in my fridge but the saltiness is weird for me. i tried good old american chewing tobaccy - beechnut and taylor’s pride i like. But it’s verboten in the kitchen - so. lol chefing IS high stress.
@saucy_jack No matter how pleasurable snuff is, sometimes you just gotta have the sensation of breathing something other than boring “air.” I still can’t get below 1 cigarette per day, although unlike you, I find that my worst cravings come when I’m under “zero” stress, like right now. I’m competely topped up with nicotine as a result of doing a late night sampling of my Indian Snuffs before placing an order, and I still had to have 3 hits off of a cigarette.
Ah the joys of quitting smoking. I remember the one thing I actually kinda liked about quitting cigs was the oxygen “high”. I remember after getting half way through the day, and enjoying that O2 buzz. Then ruin it by smoking a “butyl”. One thing that helped me was going for a run, or getting other vigorous exercise. The heavy respiration kind of gives a bit of burn in the throat, which kind of satisfied that particular part of the craving, at least for me. Other times I would get the jones, I would sometimes hyper-ventilate a little. Gives the O2 rush, plus a little throat burn. Add a few bumps of snuff, and I think that would have cured me. lol
Yeah I agree sprangalang, there is some adventure in quitting a bad habit. Everything that has been said here has helped me remember how lucky I am to have found this place and have been successfully off the cigs since October. Not even a single slip. I was talking to a buddy the other day after a meeting and he was saying how he had been off the cigs a couple days with Cope. I wish him well, but sounds like he’s trading a bad habit for a worse one. Don’t get me wrong though. In that same conversation I was complaining about my sinuses and how sometimes I can’t get that blessed fix even with snus. At that moment he popped out the Cope tin and handed it to me. Knocked that craving right outa the park, for a little while. I think I got home and popped in a snus. I’ve been having trouble with snuff lately. Just can’t keep the toast out of my sinuses. It’s a technique thing. But I love #22 so much, its all I really want. Honestly, its not really enjoyable to deal with my cravings in this way. So then I over-snus and bring my tolerance up to a point where I just don’t feel the nic. Then I start feeling like a junky chasing a fix. And NO, NTSU doesn’t fix that. So what did I do? For the snuff problem, I grabbed some Brunswick. Nice nicotine and stayed right there up front due to moisture. I can’t take to much geranium and citrus but its better than freaking out. Made me think more about that tin of Maccoboy I’ve been ignoring. I also reduced my snuff and snus intake. I found that reducing the times I reach for the snuff box or snus tin makes the few times I do MUCH more enjoyable. This give me incentive and satisfaction. Only snuff in the morning. One snus after lunch. One snus at night. Snuff in between at one hour intervals. Whenever I stray from this formula I get burned. My point in all that is to say. I have to suffer some when I change my bad habits. That is something I believe you are going to have to deal with if you want to quit the Cope. If you accept the pain you can be prepared for it. There is a saying “If you stay ready, you ain’t gotta get ready” But it doesn’t have to be all suffering. Try to distract yourself by perfecting the art of snuff enjoyment. But, ironically, that might mean longer intervals between pinches. During the rough times you might try varying tobacco products. Everything but the Cope tin. Cigars, Pipes, hookah etc.
I have been smoking since I was 11, one pack a day minimum since I was 13 …currently 25 so I can say I have been a heavy smoker for the last 12 years or so. Some days I would have finished 30 cigs by 6 in the afternoon, not to mention a few months when I jumped to 3 packs a day during all these years. S moking for me has been a pain lately due to some health issues, I can barely stand one cigarette these days, it just makes me feel sick instantly, powerless and gives me all sorts of pain, stomach …head …mostly all body. For the past 10 days or so I am constantly doing 2 or 3 cigs at most per day and one cigar (smoked cigars occasionally only before). I am certain that I can go with snuff alone, it just does the thing for me.
I still can’t understand why I can’t get through the day without that 1-2 cigs at night. When I first “quit” in November, I was using a lot of snus, but now I only snus about 3 times per day, and in the evening snuff about every hour (and no snus following my after dinner pris). Still, when midnite rolls around, I get that hard to resist craving for three hits off of a cigarette; never a whole one, just two or three hits at a time. Even last night, despite having done a little too much NTSU, I had to have that 1/4 cigarette, even though it made me feel like I was about to have a stroke. I also have the problem with toasts getting up in my sinuses as opposed to down my throat, which eventually clogs you up to the point you can’t take any snuff for awhile. #22 is fairly bad (by which I mean “good”), but the one that kills me is Levi Garrett.