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HELLO Snuffers

We are delighted to introduce a brand new product from JNF, DRAGON BRAND MADRAS SNUFF.

Madras Snuff at the most premium quality.

No added menthol or flavors, just the real quality tobacco.

Available at MrSnuff for FREE !

Grab yours, and let us know your reviews.

Happy “Sunffing” 

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Perhaps I’m blind but I don’t see it

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@Codyg140 The link mrsnuff sent me indicated it was all gone.

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Got some tubs of this dragon thang along with some MGM, waiting for me 450 kilometers away. Unfortunately, I’ll visit that place only in the beginning of October. Waiting for reviews!

P. S. I noticed this Dragon Madras ghosting at Snuffstore.co.uk in the end of August. Every now and then I run a search for “Madras” there, expecting to find new untried snuffs of that type (I still recall Dave’s efforts to broaden Madras assortment some years ago, and I know that sometimes it takes time for those guys to get new snuffs properly listed - as happened with JNF earlier). So, it was marked as “Free” then, too, but order amount wasn’t limited yet. And yes, it wasn’t listed under any category and appeared when searched-for only. It disappeared completely after a few days, though, and reappeared only recently.

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Its available now, please check.

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Not at snuffstore.co.uk

@ManxSnuff

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Here’s the link to free Dragon Brand Madras on Mr Snuff. https://mrsnuff.com/mobile/dragon-madras-snuff-mp-4281.html

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Finally got my hands on it. All the traits one would expect from this genre is here. Good strong toasty snuff, I’m enjoying it.

Despite ordering four tubs (and no quantity limitation set on the day of purchase), I got only one tub.

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This is the strongest Madras I tried so far. If you are a fan of this kind of snuff, do yourself a favour and get a tub!

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The first Madras I have tried and I am really enjoying it. Emailed JNF asking about getting a larger amount and was told 100 gram tubs will soon be avaliable from mr snuff. 

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I still have my tin of NC Super Special Snuff. I like Madras style but only once in a while. But next order from MS I will get some. I did see the freebies but ordered Jaxson’s from snuff dot me dot U.K. since that’s the only place that sells it.

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Ok @ManxSnuff, it’s time to let them 100-grammers go! We know they are in the warehouse already.

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Any word on when this will be available again? 

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@JohnnyO, Dragon Madras is here: http://www.snuffstore.co.uk/advanced\\_search\\_result.html?osCsid=86b174e9a33e97caaceb216004170e32&keywords=janta&search\\_in\\_description=0&osCsid=86b174e9a33e97caaceb216004170e32&x=0&y=0

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Ordered!!

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Try the Dragon Madras & share your reviews with us.

Happy Snuffing 
:slight_smile:

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Just ordered it ! I’m really excited to try it! My first Madras and from what I’ve read it’s strong in Nicotine? 

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I wait the order to arrive… Dragon mandras doesn’t landing yet…

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(UPDATE) Very nice well balance snuff, like a lot…

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Is this a Janta snuff? I really like the Punjabi with the mustachioed dude in a turban on the label. It’s becoming my favorite Indian snuff. I didn’t know that Punjabi is a particular type of snuff, but it is! And it’s very inexpensive too. Like three bucks for a big 40 gram tin.

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@mrmanos, yes, it’s Janta Dragon Brand Madras. If you like this genre, the Dragon won’t disappoint you. Really strong and tasty, with a slight sourish note, which reminds the very first batch of Dholakia Madras Toast, only way stronger, both in taste and nicotine.

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@mrmanos

Yes, Punjabi Snuff is  particular type of Indian Snuff. And it is lovely that you like our Photo Brand Punjabi Snuff.

And Dragon Brand Madras is also our own product made with the best grade tobacco, it is Super Strong Golden Colored snuff.

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Dragon Madras is the best! Very strong nicotine and great tobacco aroma! I love it!

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Dragon Madras is probably the strongest nasal snuff on the market.

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@volunge I agree, its the strongest! The aroma reminds me of Toque Quit but with way higher nicotine levels. Tears with every big pinch !

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Closest Dragon’s rival is SVS Madras, but you can buy it only in India and probably some Indian groceries in London (Wembley, namely; as was mentioned by @London_Jack in this thread ten years ago: https://snuffhouse.com/discussion/2266/indian-snuffs/p4 ; worth searching in Southall shops, too).

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@volunge Is Dragon toasted like MG Madras? Turns out I am not a big fan of such.

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Yes, it’s toasted, but less. And I don’t get much of ghee from Dragon. It’s different from the rest I tried (NC, Umbrella, NB, DS, SVS, MG). Dragon feels drier than MG and has sour note, similar to Dholakia’s Madras Toast. It’s tasty plain snuff, not overtoasted.

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Maybe it’s my imagination but I got some rustica notes in Dragon Madras…anyone else?

p.s. scentwise

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@tobaccobob, a spot-on note, rustica is sour. I recall @newbiesnuffer mentioning sour notes in MG Madras, too (suspecting it turned stale). Now MGM label lists “Sun cured country tobacco” among the ingredients. I suppose “country tobacco” stands for N. rustica. It’s the exact meaning of latin word rustica (= rural). In many languages the name of N. rustica is “rural/country/peasant tobacco”.

I don’t detect sourness in MGM, but it can be explained by deep-toasting, which alters the organoleptic properties of the leaf itself. Dragon is less toasted (at least to my nose), and I was pleasantly surprised by the sourness, which I dig. I felt it in the first batch of Dholakia Madras Toast, too. At the end of the day, it wouldn’t be too surprising to find out that all Madras snuffs are made of rustica.

@indiansnuffjnf, could you disclose which Nicotiana plant do you use for your Dragon? N. tabacum or N. rustica?

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@volunge - just to confirm, I got sour notes in NB Madras from a tin which I had procured couple of years back. I did not detect any sourness from it when I had first procured it - perhaps it was the ghee that got rancid over time? Until now my batch of MG Madras is quite toasty, thankfully.  

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I have a question about these madras snuffs.  Are they light colored (tan) like English toasts?  I’ve searched all the threads but no answers or photos regarding color came up

Cheers

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No, they are darker. The lightest one is Dholakia Madras Toast (DMT), very different from Janta Dragon Madras and 6 Photo MG Madras (MGM). Dragon is a somewhat darker than DMT. MGM is the darkest of the three.

MG22

Left: WoS Irish No.22 (upper layer, light) and Six Photo MGM (bottom layer, dark).
Right: a mix of both - “MG22” - one of my favourite snuff blends. Colour is similar to that of Janta Dragon Madras.

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i hope snuffstore.co.uk  to restock on Janta Dragon Madras 100g containers ! its the best snuff

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@volunge Yes we use rustica for the Dragon, because it has the maximum nicotine capacity and provides a great treat to our customers.

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@indiansnuffjnf, thanks for confirmation! Could you tell us, please, when will it be available again at snuffstore.co.uk?

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Second @volunge comment. I tried to order from mrsnuff but it was out of stock

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@volunge @Snuffalufagis @ManxSnuff We are waiting from a long time for the next new order from MrSnuff, as many of our products are shown out of stock on the website. Hope they reply soon with the new order.

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I get a bit of a cigar note from this snuff, strong and enjoyable, I got a small tin of this to see if I would like it but I will be ordering it in a 100gm tin when it comes back into stock on the Snuffstore website.

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I wonder if Dholakia Madras Toast contains n. rustica.  Probably a difficult question to answer

I ordered some and I’m wondering what to expect.  Nicotiana rustica doesn’t agree with me.  I can use it and it gets the job done, but it doesn’t really give me a kick if that makes sense

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@Gormur, which rustica snuffs did you try?

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@volunge Toque Quit and 6P Cheeta.  The Cheeta does have a kick, but I did read here that it was a blend so it’s probably something else in there

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I tried these, too. Just like you, I didn’t find Quit any stronger than solid medium. I’m not sure if there’s any rustica in it. Now Cheeta, rustica or not, is much stronger. Only Vikas @sixphoto can tell us, if it’s pure rustica or a blend of rustica and other tobaccos. I’m also wondering if “country tobacco”, listed among the ingredients on the 6 Photo M.G. Madras label, stands for rustica (latin name Nicotiana rustica literally means country tobacco). Out of everything I have tried, this snuff is one of the strongest in the nicotine department and is on a par with Toque USA Whiskey & Honey, SWS St. James Parish Blend (both contains rustica), NTSU Black/Taxi Red and the discontinued V2 Thunder snuffs.

Vikas has previously disclosed that LA Natural and Green Dragon are rustica snuffs. I would rate the kick as solid medium. Neffa Ifrikia is another rustica snuff, but I don’t find it super strong. But don’t get me wrong, it is satisfying.

I think Cheeta Chhap Gul and Snafu Plain are rustica snuffs, but this is yet to be confirmed or denied.

As stated by the manufacturer himself, Janta Dragon Brand Madras is made from rustica. This is probably the strongest snuff I tried. S.V.S. Madras is very similar. Dholakia Madras Toast is least potent among Madras-type snuffs.

There are many varieties of rustica, they have different content of nicotine, citric acid and other compounds. There are green and yellow rustica varieties as well. To make it even more complicated, the kick of snuff - and I mean any snuff, made of regular tobacco or rustica - depends on the amount of alkali(-s) in the composition of particular snuff. It explains the wide range of potency.

Sorry for reiterration. Those in bold are the strongest snuffs (imho).

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@volunge - tried the Dragon Madras just now. First impressions: It is a nice Madras style snuff and has a good burn. Youre bang on with the comparison with SVS Madras, but this one is still a tad bit drier and the tobacco is darker.

I have some observations with respect to ghee in Madras snuffs. I personally do not smell any ghee in this, but there is a fresh toasted aroma of the tobacco; not that I can smell ghee in the SVS Madras. Also, not sure if there is a tiny amount of ghee in it which I am unable to detect. I am not sure which of the Madras snuffs have ghee in them, but I think most of them don’t have any ghee or only have miniscule amounts. The only snuff with the most noticeable ghee for me was NB Madras, and then Umbrella Golden (amongst the ones I have tried until now). NB Madras sadly not being available anywhere for me to procure a fresh stock of. The problem with these snuffs was w.r.t. storage, which I havent encountered with any other Madras snuff (until now). The snuff would remain fresh only a few weeks. Result was that when I stored 4 tins of NB Madras in a glass jar, and others in their original tins, I started getting a sour odour in it which was very off-putting. I had to bin more than 7 tins of NB Madras simply because I went to them after a few months of storage. The same was the case with many tins of Umbrella Golden snuffs which had an amazing mild aroma of ghee.

So the question for me in reviewing Madras snuffs would also depend on their shelf life in glass. In that case perhaps the Madras snuffs with no ghee in them store better than the others? 

Would love to know yours or anyones experience, tips or observations in storing Madras style snuffs. 

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@newbiesnuffer, I only had small amounts of both - a 6 g tub of Dragon Madras and that nice sample of SVS you have treated me with last year. Never had a chance to do a side-by-side comparison, but I recall them both being equally satisfying. I was referring to both as “the most potent snuffs” on the market numerous times. And while there actually might be even stronger products – honestly, I could mention quite a few: NTSU Black, Six Photo Cheeta, the discontinued V2 Thunder range and some of my own concoctions – each of those stronger snuffs has some properties, which I find upleasant. For me, Dragon and SVS stand for a plain perfection. I enjoyed every single pinch and used them sparingly, as a treasure.

With an exception of Umbrella (and maybe NB), I don’t get any taste or smell of ghee in madras snuff, but most of them are greased. Whatever it is - true or fake ghee (vegetable oil) or mineral oil, it’s there. You can tell the presence of grease by the texture - most Madras snuffs, pinched harder, stain your fingers. I mean, the powder sticks to

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@newbiesnuffer, I only had small amounts of both - a 6 g tub of Dragon Madras and that nice sample of SVS you have treated me with last year. Never had a chance to do a side-by-side comparison, but I recall them both being equally satisfying. I was referring to both as “the most potent snuffs” on the market numerous times. And while there actually might be even stronger products – honestly, I could mention quite a few: NTSU Black, Six Photo Cheeta, the discontinued V2 Thunder range and some of my own concoctions – each of those stronger snuffs has some properties, which I find upleasant. For me, Dragon and SVS stand for a plain perfection. I enjoyed every single pinch and used them sparingly, as a treasure.

With an exception of Umbrella (and maybe NB), I don’t get any taste or smell of ghee in Madras snuff, but most of them are greased. Whatever it is - true or fake ghee (vegetable oil) or mineral oil, it’s there. You can tell the presence of grease by the texture - most Madras snuffs, pinched harder, stain your fingers. I mean, the powder sticks to the fingertips. It is a tad harder to wash than a non-oiled snuff, and I feel the grease, rubbing my fingers under the tap. First batches of MG Madras were really sticky; current one is way less so (I’m even considering to add some extra ghee, but I’m not in the mood of making my own right now). DC is probably non-greased at all, and the last batch of Dholakia Madras Toast I tried about two years ago also seemed grease-free. And if there’s any ghee in Dragon and SVS, the amount is smaller than in Umbrella, NB or MGM. I can’t tell anything about the grease in NC Arya, but it is great snuff and I heartily recommend to arrange a trade or swap with a fellow who has an access to it.

None of the Madras snuffs you send were stale. At least I didn’t notice anything weird or off-putting in any of them. And I never received spoiled Madras from snuffstore.co.uk, bar the last 100 g tin of MGM, which I find odd - very different to all previous tubs and tins I had. It smells ok, but has unusual powdery texture (less greased than previous batches) and is lacking in potency; as if slaked lime has reacted with ammonium carbonate during the prolonged storage of snuff in the warehouse and formed calcium carbonate (=chalk) flakes, or the latter compound was used instead of slaked lime; or ammonium bicarbonate was used instead of ammonium carbonate - something like that).

I use snuff relatively fast and never hoard it. 100 g MGM tin used to last me about 2-3 months; a small tub contains one week’s worth amount. Just for the record, the air humidity is very low inside during cold season in my place. The only change in Madras that I have noticed during 2-3 months is the evaporation of ammonia. There’s only a slight whiff of it in fresh Madras, but it dissipates completely towards the bottom of the tin. Still, fresh MGM used to retain satisfying potency till the last pinch even after 2 months.

It would be interesting to take a look at spoiled Madras and to try to figure the reason of spoilage. Did that off-putting sour odour in NB and Umbrella originate in airtight jar-stored snuff, or in the factory-sealed tins? Under dry conditions and stored in a tightly close container, ghee should slow down the natural conversion of slaked lime to carbonate, which otherwise would happen in snuf faster. On the other hand, I found NB and Umbrella being less alkalized - maybe the amount of slaked lime and (or) any other alkalizer present there is too small for preserving the snuff for longer time. And one more question - if you have tried taking a pinch of any spoiled Madras - did they become any weaker, potency-wise?

P. S. If I understand it right, in previous times most small manufacturers of Madras snuff used to sell fresh snuff, matured for 5-7 days. I think no one used to store it for long in the warehouses… It was more demanded back in the day. However, all the Madras snuffs I tried have different composition (in some cases - different amounts of alkalizers, in other cases - different alkalizers and their combinations; also, different amount of grease and different tobaccos). Their shelf life span is probably different. A clear winner here, I would say, is Dholakia Madras Toast.

P. P. S. Have you ever stumbled upon S-S-S Madras? https://www.grocibro.com/index.php/product/sss-madras-snuff-nossi/?fbclid=IwAR1fZQyo-CqxTmr09KD-anP2FodVfHCYqrRNt4tCekMEkOyaHOUWXkj3vh4

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@volunge - The stale batch just had a sour note and the strength was relatively the same. I was unable to take more of it since the smell was so weird that I felt it had decayed in a way.

No, I havent tried the SSS. Might contact the seller to check. There are many companies producing Madras snuffs in India - especially the south region of India. The names which I have come across online and never got to try are TPS, SSS, NC Arya, NC, Sri Ambal and NVS. And these are just the names I have found online. I am sure there would be many other names which don’t show up on google results. Just try searching “Madras snuff” on Facebook and you’ll know what I mean. 

The seller (or distributor) of NVS Madras is on Facebook and I am trying to get a hold of some to sample. By my limited chat with him, I figure he is not interested in sending snuff abroad (from India) - which is sad. I had asked this question to him for you. 

Not that Dragon and MG are bad snuffs by any means. They are very good (except in case of a possible change in a batch, which is, according to me, sheer bad luck). I wish I could just get hold of the perfect Madras snuff for me (like NB) and have a continuous fresh supply of it like a subscription :) 

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@newbiesnuffer if you like the dragon, you will also like the tps. And the nc is also great. But it is a little scented with clove I think.

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@Hloridison - Thanks for letting me know. Would love to try them both. Despite I am in India it is really tough to get access to Madras snuffs. Brick and mortar stores are disappearing anyways. Most of the sellers have no online presence. Also, I think the reason is I stay in Mumbai (West India) and the Madras snuffs are local to the south region of India. 

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According to Paul, Dragon will soon be back in stock:

https://youtu.be/avNWig33DAM

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Hello all,

Sorry for the delays but…

Dragon Madras and our other snuffs are back in stock.

Hope you enjoy them. :)  

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A great snuff, just ordered 100gms from Mrsnuff, not my usual place but I didn’t want to wait for the snuffstore to have it in stock or miss out on it before it all goes.

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Simon’s review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooLAV8Du63Q

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After seeing the consistency, colour, and the reactions of Simon, this product reminds me of the classic Madras- epitomised by the TPS. Dunno what forms TPS has taken in Europe. The next best to TPS was the NC Arya, Sadly both are not available where I stay. After a break in snuff taking, I’m drawn to it after reading the enthusiastic comments by Madras snuff aficionados here. Just got a tin of DS. Still miss the old Madras types. I think this one is a must try. 

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@Gokul, you need to try SVS Madras (if you still haven’t).

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Chad’s review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y4G9XWyhC0

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@BeerandSnuff i had this in the selection box. Immediately bought the 100 gram tub. I love almost every snuff, but i think if i had to pick only one to use forever, it would be this. 

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@Just_Browsing The 100g tub is great value for such a quality snuff. It’s amazing how much they can pack into that tin.

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@just_browsing, along with HDT and WoS Irish no.22 it is one of the best plain snuffs I’ve ever had, I grabbed 200gms a few months ago because I really don’t want to be without this one.