I noticed something strange but it happens pretty much every time so I thought I would ask and see if anyone else noticed this or whether it’s just another SIH (snuff-induced hallucination). When I take almost any F&T I get a very gentle lift feeling, especially with the HDT. It comes like a ramp, quick and gentle and usually brings a smile to my face. When I take any Wilsons I get a more abrupt feeling and it doesn’t seem to ramp up, it’s just THERE all of a sudden. Anyone else notice this? I don’t like nicotine and I guess I’m sensitive to it, too much and I feel pretty bad. Maybe that’s why I never got stuck on cigars or pipes and hopefully not snuff either.
With nicotine, like alcohol, I think its all down to the vehicle. Whilst alcohol is the same ingredient across all of the range of drinks, its the strength, other additives, temperature plus all of the variables of your own metabolism that play a part in the uptake and ultimate effect. I think snuff is the same, with the grind, type of leaf and curing etc that effect how you experience that lift. As a non smoker I guess you have that extra sensitivity to the variety of snuff strengths that a life long tobacco user like me is just to de-sensitised to experience - a snuff has to be some strong for me to particularly notice the hit, although I do feel it lessening the craving for a smoke which has led to it being great NRT for me. In terms of getting stuck on it, if you take it on a regular, daily basis I would guess you would eventually get addicted to it even if it takes a long time. Nicotine is addictive and the body really has only one response to long term exposure to addictive substances. We are all different and there are occasional tobacco users who keep it controlled, but it pays to start using any form of tobacco - or any drug for that matter - with your eyes open to the possibilities.
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F&T have been known to have lower nic levels then most.
Snuffs vary massively in their strengths and I’m not aware of any decrease in nicotine levels with storage - I have a fairly large collection, some of which dates back 30 years and whilst it might dry out a bit or loose flavour if the container is not so good, the nicotine leves as far as I can judge remain the same.
Good question, some of the TSNA’s are actually nicotine itself gone bad. I wonder if storage to a point of raising these levels would make a difference in the felt effect? I’d think quite a bit would have to “transform” though to have a reduction large enough to feel, and perhaps even those TSNA’s still give a nicotine like effect.
okay this is a bit psycho-babbly and weird (and if it’s ‘all in my head’ well it seems according to this thread then I share a nice sort of crazy in common with somebody else at least) I’ve read and heard plenty about chocolate’s alleged ability to give a feeling of being hugged or a ‘false sense of well-being’ (can’t say I’ve ever had that from chocolate though I am known to be ‘wired a bit differently’ and put it down to that) but there are times with nicotine that I get what I suspect to be the same based on descriptive, that same ‘false sense of well-being’ others get from chocolate, with nicotine (and what about it makes it so ‘false’ anyway?) I just feel a bit more safer, balanced, like all is maybe alright with me and the world, maybe somebody out there somewhere loves me or something, I dunno (I am overstating it greatly and I know it, but that’s just because I don’t have the words to make it subtle and ‘understated’ like it really is), but its a feeling that reminds me of very brief cozy positive moments remembered from early childhood when everybody was laying about the living-room watching the old console Zenith (and yes my TV has been on when I’ve had this nicotine induced feeling, evening or night-time lighting soft tends to enhance or increase the likelihood of having this experience and it is decidedly the result of just the right magical amount of nicotine into me at just the right amount). Its like the slight removal of a perpetual sense of insecurity but without being sedating or anything like it, I feel good, I get up and walk around, do stuff, tolerate things (like say, the TV itself heh) just a bit better. I also know that I love F&T HDT, but I don’t think it was this snuff I was using at the time (or that it was even necessarily the result of snuff-taking, could have also been the result of just the right snus!), if it was snuff-induced more than likely its been the result of some of the toque toasts and/or Cheese & Bacon (what I was heavily into for a while) I don’t get this all the time (its not common enough if you asked me) and I haven’t quite figured out just what or when its more liable to be induced (other than I notice it involves taking of nicotine/tobacco and happens more at night time with the right environment described above)
Whistlrr, Your post reminds me of the chocolate and coffee inhalers that are available. They show pictures of small children with these inhalers in their mouths breathing in small particles of chocolate that ‘are too heavy to pass beyond the mouth’. They get the taste and feel of the real thing,…almost. Poor little deprived kids… But, yes, for me, sometimes things are perfect and a particular snuff hits me just right. I’m sure much has to do with the state of mind at the time. I enjoy any snuff much better late at night watching the flames dance in the woodburner in silence, than when I am listening to four little crumb-snatchers run laps around my house.
I guess I’m desensitized to nicotine by the massive amounts I use. (pipes, cigars, snus, snuff and nicotine gum), but it does have a salutory effect on me and improves the world. It keeps me from doing violence to all around me. I once tried to quit smoking and my employees would buy tobacco for me and beg me to use it.
Last night I held Aladdin’s tin And so I wished that I could stay Before the thing could answer me Well, someone came and took the tin away I looked around, a lousy cig’s all I found Well, you don’t know what we can find…
Magic Carpet Ride was about snuff? Must have been singing about Ntsu.
At least it wasn’t the Magic School Bus… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKbehKD0T0k or “the lids on the tin go round and round” (rock out!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh99A86HraY
Or… for a lift onset you can do this: Bum a cigarette. Tear it up. Makeshift pestle. Grind to snuff. hahahahahaa One cig makes quite a lot!