Taken from another angle and I find that senator’s comments interesting: http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/local/Father-of-soldier-fighting-tobacco-ban Ken
Where’s old “Fighting” Joe Mccarthy when you need him? He would never have allowed those yellow dogs in congress to trample on our rights with this socialist PACT dribble. Too bad he got offed by the spooks at Bethesda Naval Hospital just like James Forrestal.
McCarthy is 6ft under, where he belongs. I think his response to it all would have been to down a fifth of Vodka then go on some tirade, yelling so hard that his sweaty hair is flapping around and spit is coming out of his mouth, coating the camera lens. 
A law protecting the large tobacco interests doesn’t sound all that socialist to me.
Carol, will “Capitalist” work for you?
Fascism is merely one of the varieties of socialism, like Communiterianism (warmed over 1920’s European Socialism) , Progressives, National Socialism (NAZI) and Communism. All are merely variations on the thems of Centralized planning, control of production and distribution, and of course increasingly rigid control of the populace by a wealthy and privileged elite class. And all are noted for their antipathy toward mosrt religions, there can be no laws or rules taking precedence over those espoused by the rulling elites and their minions. Don’t get bogged down by the semantic hair splitting, word parsing and the revisionist history taught in the Government schools since about 1920. Please forgive any poor sentence structure and spelling mistakes, I’m in chemotherapy and with the side effects it’s difficult to get anything out. Unfortunately, this thread has taken a turn that I felt deserved an accurate response. Probably sounds more curt and argumentative than I mean it to be. BTW, FWIW, the released KGB files following the disentigration of the USSR, vindicated "tailgunner Joe McCarthy’’ in the main, Washington was filled with communist agents and ‘useful idiots’ from the State Deopartment , Defense, the Pentagon, and everything else on down. MSM reported on it at the time but the stories were ‘old news’ and promptly went to page 37 B. One of the biggest problems with the D day invasion, was keeping the information away from the American Embassy in London, filled with NAZI agents from Joe Kennedy on down the line, And Everyone knew it. Kennedy was a huge contributor to FDR’s campaigns, that’s usually how you get to be an Ambassodor. If this is too far off topic, then moderator please move to appropriate location … or delete if deemed proper. I’m sure I’m not the only one who logged on to this thread see if there was anything new on the PACT court case. Not to engage in bumper sticker political jabs. Though I have been called a curmudgeon … often. Regards.
@ gbrhys: You’re completely off base. I think you’ve been reading some bad information, or perhaps effective right wing propaganda. True socialism has nothing to do with those ideologies. Green politics and anti-war, anti-globalization movements have much more in common with socialsm than those totalitarian regimes. Socialism will not have a privleged or elite class. We’ve had this conversation before here, its best not to get into it. You felt the need to correct misinformation, and so do I. PACT, by the way is nothing about socialism, but it also hinders capitalsm. Everything in the world does not have to be one or the other. I would simply call it ill-imformed policy and possibly a corrupt policy made by corrupt officials who have a greater love of money than they do ideology.
Is there any news on the hearings into PACT’s being unconstitutional that were supposed to start on July 7th?
German-Style “National Socialism” was no more socialist than the “People’s Republic of China” is a republic.
Agreed Carol. The Nazis put “socialism” in their name to get the working class to go along with it. They locked up the true socialsts.
Fascism is actually at the entire opposite end of the political spectrum from socialism, gbrhys. It’s one of the more common misconceptions about the two ideologies, that they’re both just one hair away from each other. Just throwing that out there.
In defense of Spyro, his comment was meant as a joke, that is all. He was just trying to lighten the mood a bit. I took it too seriously, which is why I edited my post to more or less poke fun at McCarthy.
Yes, Fascism is a decidedly right-wing ideology.
This is something fun for political stuff, measures ideologies based on both social and economic axes: The Political Compass You can take a little test and compare yourself with known political/historic figures. Its unbiased and easy to use. It will dispell any misconceptions about which names should be applied to which ideology. I will say no more on this issue.
That test puts me somewhere around (-7,-7).
Yeah, I’m somewhere around there, -6.8, -6.5, something like that.
I’m right over there with Mandela and the Dalai Lama.
I took the test my score is Economic Left/Right: -1.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.92
me too carol.
Sincere thanks to all who corrected my erroneous concepts. Nice to know I can still learn at my age! I’l clearly have to invests in some new dictionaries, text books and Encyclopedias. Maybe audit a few local College classes and ‘catch up’ with the 21st century. Learning isn’t too bad, it’s the unlearning things you already know and lived through that’s the tough part! Clearly I have a lot to do to catch up with 21st century ‘Truth’. I still can’t recall any of the named variations that didn’t have an elite privileged class, but that’s probably just Alzheimers or my Meds are out of whack. Thanks again for the corrections, I’ll certainly not touch this subject again until I can contribute in the approved main stream manner. BTW, getting back to PACT in and of itself it is flawed, unworkable, clearly un-Constitutional in at least three areas and a possible fourth) and overreaching on many basic levels, but if allowed to stand as written, extends the Gov. and the FDA’s authority beyond past limits. Opening the door to similar action on other ‘evil’ products. We won’t like that very much. Best regards to all!