I think somewhere on here a while ago there was a debate about if philp morris was planning on makeing a snus well heres the answer to that. http://www.northerner.com/html/snus-P\_1847\_philip\_morris\_org.html
My understanding was that it wasn’t like real snus. Doesn’t taste the same because it is not pasteurized and therefore not refrigerated. Also likely to not be as safe as snus healthwise due to not being pasteurized.
No Phillip Morris is making real Snus. They bought the Rocker Snus out. I have not tried it yet myself but it seems as if it is decent. So far it is only available in two pouch types. I believe the Swedish laws are involved with the product so it should be pasteurized etc. Has anybody here tried snus nasally? I’ve thought about it more than once!
Oddly enough, I picked up my first tin of snus today. I’ve dipped before so I figured I’d take to this fairly easily. I picked up the Camel brand and went with their spice flavor. It’s decent. It will definitely do the trick when your sinuses aren’t cooperating and you can’t snuff. But at the same price as a pack of smokes, I can’t see this becoming a regular thing for me. As far as using snus like snuff, I don’t think I’d care to try it.
The heck with PM. It’s easy enough to make your own. It is easy to manufacture Swedish snus and snuff. You can save about 10,000 - or even more in just one year by making your own snuff. Good, cheap, and cleaner snuff with just a little effort…? Ingredients: 250g ground raw tobacco (fine or gross after liking & taste) 4-5dl water (400-500ml) 55-70g. table salt 10g. Sodium carbonate Glycerol 1.5%-3.5% of finished snus mass Flavourings (essential oils, spirits, spices, etc.) How to make: 1. Boil up 4-5dl water along with 55-70g. salt - after liking and taste. Let salt solution cool to approximately 50 degrees. 2. Take up a sufficiently large containers of items; sheet metal, glass or porcelain etc. The container should resist 55-75 degrees C and not give any taste to the tobacco. Pour in salt solution and mix: stirring in 250g. fine-or coarse- ground raw tobacco (after liking & taste). Let the mixture stand and feel free to draw any hour. Stir the mixture thoroughly. The containers you use, you can then carefully seal with aluminum foil or lid of the vessel (if available). 3. Put the vessel or plate with tobacco in an oven or similar environment with a temperature of 55-75°C for about 5 days depending on the heat you have. Stir in the vessel each day, the mixture becomes too dry, you cook up 1 dl. water with 2 teaspoons table salt, and mix in the “right texture” (liking and taste). An alternative to the oven is to use a box that you line inside with frigolit. The source of heat, use an ordinary light bulb - to ensure that the lamp is not in contact with frigoliten. You may try up until which the watt-strength, which is appropriate, depending on the size, how tight it is or what temperature you desire. Check the temperature with a digital or regular thermometer you stick in the top. 4. After approximately 5 days, take out the mass and mix sodium carbonate (10g., a little more or less after liking & taste). Mix the sodium carbonate in a little water first, then it is easier to mix it with the snus. You mix now also in Glycerol 1.5% -3.5% of finished snusmassa (after liking & taste). You can find glycerol (glycerin), for example, Apoteket. Mix on properly. Sodium carbonate is used to make snuff its characteristic flavour and aroma, which means that snuff pH value will be mild alkaline. Directly on the appointment natriumkarbonatet converted to sodium bicarbonate. Glycerol acts as fuktighetsbevarare. At that moment, you can flavour your snuff with pure essential oils. For example, bergamot, rose, geranium and citron or why not a tasty spirit… But be careful, try your way with a few drops at a time. At the Aroma Creative AB, you’ll find good and sufficient numbers of various essential oils to you is to experiment until you a fantastic snuff. The essential oils are expensive to buy, but it requires very small amounts, one or more ml. per 2 kg of snuff. 5. Now the snuff is ready for use, if the moisture content is too high, then put snuff on a newspaper covered with paper towels to dry out a bit, 2-4 hours depending on season and room temperature. 6. You pack now in snuff cans, boxes or whatever you want, which is dense and odourless. Remember that storage elevates the aroma. If you are not a storsnusare you can usefully freeze down snuff for a long time and always have access to fresh snuff. Original Swedish Web-page: http://spotsweden.com/snus.htm
Satyr, dear friend. Sadly it’s the Camel snus wich is the least like real Swedish snus. It just would not be fair for you to write off snus until you tried some decent stuff.
And…Thanks for the recipe snuffgrinder! If I wasn’t the lazy son of my mother I’d be cooking up a batch right now.
Snus can be made in smaller batches and in as little as 36 hours. Sweat the tobacco at 80 to 90 deg. C for 24 hours; add the carbonate, and sweat for another 12 hours. I make up about 5 oz. at a time. I put the snus in a sealed glass jar and sweat it in a crockpot about a third full of water. You can use a food processor or blender to grind the tobacco if you don’t mind coarse snus. Some really lazy people even use an electric mixer to mix the salt water and tobacco. Of course, it might be a good idea to make sure that the lady of the house is absent if you’re going to food preparation appliances. Some spouses also have an unaccountable tendency to utter pungent comments about the odor of fermenting tobacco in the house.
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Unfortunately upon attempting to enter the U.S. markets tobacco companies have chosen flavors they think would appeal to us. ( yes I am one of the know it all Americans ) I’m fairly certain in the history of snus that for the first two hundred years there was no such thing as a mint flavored snus. Of course I may be wrong, but you get my point.
One thing I hate about it is that when I’ve tried the american flavoured snuses they’ve been the only ones I don’t like. Some how the swedish don’t get american flavours which sucks because their orginal flavours although possibly strange they really get them right. Plus I really think that their apeal is in diffrence not in sameness. Yes a lot of the flavours have been made to appeal to a american market.
I have never managed to finish a can of snus. Not that it’s bad, just not my thing. There’s a dried up hockey puck of Grovsnus I will attempt to regrind and give it a second chance as sniff. Seems all that cooking should make it pretty smooth.
The grovsnus made a decent plain snuff, but much too salty. An aromatic “cigar” tobacco scent stayed around for a long time. But the salt made my nose smart. Makes a nice dry dip though. I think this snus was made from the lugs and smalls - bottom leaves and suckers, judging by the high vein to leaf ratio. Schmalzers also have loads of salt, but the addition of oil probably keeps it from dissolving all at once like this one did. I’ll have to try that next.
I use Redman chew now and again and have dipped Skoal in the states, is snus anything like that? Any UK members using/importing it??
I’ve been thinking of trying to make a nasal snuff using a 2% salt solution and sweating it at a high temperature like snus.
I’ll bet that works just fine.
no snus is very diffrent then american chews. For one thing snus seems to be more even in delivery. Where american chews seem to kick hard in the front then die out much quicker then snus. The taste is not as strong more of a nice flavour that seems to have more of an aromatic quality then food flavour. Snus is almost more like a paste then american chew which is more like shreds. Plus it doesn’t fuck up your gums nearly as badly.
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Yeah gums just don’t grow back when you stop either. People who are always packing a lip are asking for trouble. A lot of fools use a can a day. Damn that would kill me off fast. It’s a once and a while treat for me. I like Stoker straight dip. I take a dime sized dip and it lasts for at least an hour. Perfect for a long ride in the car or just about any outdoor activity. There are a lot of dips out there and most of them are candied-up crap. They have a sickening aftertaste and little satisfaction. But if you want to compare snus to dip, at least try some real baccy - Stokers Straight or Cope original. No funky candy flavor, just pure tobacco goodness. And that flavor lasts a long time, for me anyway. One thing I did like about the snus experience was the technique of “upper decking” or putting the dip in the upper gum. It causes much less spit to form and improves the experience.
I used to be one of those fools stitch. I used to go through a can a day of Copenhagen. The majority of any oral tobacco I use now are the Stokers looseleafs like the peach, apple & butternut. These stoker chews have flavor that lasts until you take it out.