I have been told by customer support at the ‘Northener’ snus site that they are now shipping all products with the exception of Swedish Match products to EU destinations; so you can order everything bar S.Match if you are in the EU. Hope that helps.
I am sorry to say that it does not help. Orders from the EU carry sales tax and tobacco tax (at a punitive rate) doubling the price of the product as compared with what I bought from the States. I believe that the rate of tobacco tax is inappropriate for snuff and snus in this country. Surely sales to the UK should carry the UK excise rate? The cost of this product has become prohibitive and I for one shall not buy it until it is a better price.
@petersuki I’m pretty sure this is about the US warehouse, not orders from the EU. For a while there were several people in the UK who were unable to order from the US warehouse at all, and I have it from @bish777 that there’s no EU/UK taxes of any kind applied unless your postman is a curious sort/bears a grudge against you. So I’m not sure if your complaint really has any bearing on this announcement. I’m guessing you mistook this as an announcement about EU warehouse based sales? If that’s the case, I’d have to agree with you.
I just tried to order from the US warehouse and it now only lets it ship from Sweden, so now I guess we have to pay an extortionate amount of tax…
Ah, makes sense now. It was all those posts saying you wouldn’t mind paying the tax, but you can only order from the US. The EU obviously reads Snuffhouse.org religiously and took you guys at your word.
Yes. You take my point now. It appears clear that we now MUST buy from the EU rather than the States. Sales tax and tobacco tax are absurdly high from EU Warehouses on the sites I have visited. I do make the point once more that the tax we are asked to pay from EU warehouses does not appear proportionate to that set out for snuff and even snus in the UK. I see that we may have to pay Swedish sales tax, but rather get the impression that any tax we pay on this stuff should be at the (lower, I think) UK rate for snus and snuff as set out in the regulations (which I have seen at one point). When I bought a fine guitar from Japan it was sold to me tax free, I then paid the excise in the UK the appropriate amount for this item. Why is this not so here? These are my opinions and I should be grateful for any better informed advice.
I am not a Swedish taxpayer, and do not stand to gain any benefit from paying a Swedish tobacco tax. The cost of this product has been doubled at a stroke. The result will be that more people will smoke and suffer the associated diseases. I cannot see this product selling at any appreciable level in Europe at these prices. I’d rather smoke Cuban cigars.
Strictly speaking they should not be selling snus to customers in the eu outside of sweden, norway and denmark I think.
I won’t be buying it either, but then it is pretty bloody awful stuff at the end of the day so no loss for me personally.
Yes of course. But that is no excuse to put a huge tobacco tax on it, and then breach the regulations. This appears to be sheer profiteering, possibly by the Swedish authorities who may perhaps wish to tap into a source of revenue which has partially illuded them. If this is the case then recent developments are highly unsavoury. It would suggest that the Swedish government want their ‘cut’ of this unlawful operation. None of this will really do, will it. It appears likely to kill snus in Europe stone dead although chewing unpasturised tobacco, or even betel nut, or both, in the form of gutkha is quite lawful. The situation is absurd. And in any case I require some Oden’s Extreme los for use as nasal snuff. Where does this leave my case? The powers that be want to outlaw, or if not, to profit greatly from, the safer forms of tobacco use such as snus. this will lead to the maintenance of smoking tobacco, which is demonstrably more harmful - albeit highly profitable for governments. It is argued that high tax is placed upon smoking tobacco as a deterrent. I do not believe this at all. I have been in some enlightened Far Eastern countries where cigarettes are very cheap and yet the practice of smoking appears to be fading away - more so than here, in my view. If this is the case how can a policy of punitive tax be justified? We must assume that it is simply rapacity in the guise of morality. Much lesser taxes should be placed on demonstrably less harmful forms, as is the case with snuff in the UK. This would be a rational procedure based upon concern for people’s well being. As matters stand, governments are not acting differently from drugs dealers who extract the most they can get for their products, which they prefer to sell in the most dangerous forms. I apologise for venting here. And hope I have not gone to far into the politics of this.
If it helped. You are singing to the choir here though. But that is as far as I will let the politics go.
Like I said.
I shall say no more on this subject, but make my retreat into the happy regions of Gawith & Gawith in their several manifestations.
I think thats a nice thing to do. I have just retreated into the joys of Toque Quit.