I know this has to be a standard newbie question. I did try a few searches, looked through the article archives, if what I’m after is here, well, I didn’t find it. Whole lot of terminology used here, some of which I’m not finding the meanings for. Is there a comprehensive snuff vocabulary anywhere? Thanks for your patience folks
Schmalzler: Dark, coarse, moist, fermented snuff made from Brazilian tobacco. Usually scented with deeply fermented forest fruits. Kept moist with Schmalz or fat, vegetable oil is used today.
Thanks for that cstokes! 1 down and a couple hundred to go… Really, thank you. Is there a list or reference you’re aware of that covers all the terminology used here?
Good question! It’s about time for something like that. Let me see…
If you think schmalzer is confusing, try to get a firm definition of SP.
schmalzler= delicious Thats my definition anyway
impossible to overinhale, yet will still find a way to burn as they drip down the back of your throat.
Well I got an idea on shmalzler (sp) now. And hey Nachman, I did come across a paragraph, somewhere, about SP and it’s origins. The “somewhere” aspect of that paragraph along with the vague info it contained, is in large part what prompted the original question. 'Spose I’ll just lurk around awhile and see what I can pick up through osmosis…
Why don’t you list the things that mystify and we will try to help. To the best of my knowledge there is no conveniant list of meanings anywhere but I’d be surprised if we couldn’t help with the experience we have here/
Well snuffster, the list that mystifies is a loong one indeed! With respect to snuff, suffice to say attempting to read through the threads here was a true exercise in futility. At first. Since the 1st post I’ve been cruising the interweb, other forums and vendor sites. Toast, High Toast, medicated… OK, I can speak to some degree now. The only real question I have at this point is what the hell is SP? Spanish, Sheffield Pride? Not so much concerned with the etymology so much, course that would be interesting, but what attributes of a given snuff are characterized when it is classed as an SP?
SP = “Special Plain”, I believe. Somewhere between fine-medium grind, and dry-medium moisture, typically scented with bergamot (amongst other things.) The blend varies by brand, and some brands have several SP variations. The P for “Plain” is a bit misleading, as it’s not a straight tobacco flavor.
Thanks Doc. I’ll work at fitting that in to my new vocabulary!
Definitive snuff classification:Ermtony’s Snuff Classification
AH HAH! That is exactly what I was looking for cstokes! If that page was already in the forums Article/Archive I missed it. If it’s not linked there it should be!
Been taking a quick spin through your workspace there cstokes. Lot of accessible information for someone like myself, new to snuff and all. Again thanks for the link.
It is not my info, but Ermtony’s. Filek, Do you have anything constructive to add?
“It is not my info, but Ermtony’s.” Credit where credit is due for sure, thanks also to Ermtony! “Definitive? I would rather argue with a couple like things in that classification - like Scotch as an American style snuff for example” What would you add to that Filek? Thank!
Filek is right of course - what I have there is far from definitive and to be be realistic I am not sure that anything definitive is actually achievable. It’s more of a starting point for further discussion. Re scotch snuffs, the original is obviously here in the UK but the name is now firmly attached to that particular style, although we still have scotch snuffs here in the UK which are nothing like the north American ones. All that proves is just how hard it is to come up with definitions.
Nice site Filek, thanks for the link. Newbies, like me, to the world of snuff benefit immensely from comparison charts and definition tables such as what you and ermtony have put together.
I’m a newbie, and have read these with interest, but am not sure how these systems would be used in practical terms. In my short time, I’ve separated schmalzlers from everything else, as with this system, then I want to know if it’s medicated, which includes any inorganics, camphor, menthol. After that, is it floral. Then is it citrus (bergamont, lemon, lime, neroli, grapefruit) or herbal which includes spices like anise, cinnamon, vanilla, tonquin, what I think of as earthy. And of course hybrids, but I don’t care what else is in it if it has menthol. I wish there were a scale of ‘tobacconess,’ because the main thing I’m looking for is that the tobacco ‘taste/smell’ is dominant, a quality I think the schmalzlers have kept in sight, and of the others I like, the tobacco is the star of the show, and not the handmaiden in the background, overpowered by a pack of painted actors. The point is that while I don’t have any expertise or knowledge, it’s what I’m currently using to decide what to get, since I don’t like chemical smells (menthol) and florals make my nose run so bad, the snuff is gone by the time I quit draining. Notice that grind is not mentioned, since I don’t care about it until I get past all this. I really appreciate the top25snuff site because it rates nicotine, a dirty word in some pipe tobacco venues, but an important issue for me. Finally, across classifications, I’m using the ermtony rating system, distinct from classification system, since my impression is that he appreciates tobacco, so I use him for my ‘tobacconess’ impression. Then, I break it down from there, literally. My request is that whatever system of classification is promulgated have a basis in practical application.