Just another thing snuff helps with, nicotine provides the same effect of Rittalin/Adderal. Helps me heaps and a few friends I know, not to sure the exact details on how it works but it’s something people need to look into more. What other benefits have you heard of.

^^^ http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/7832/additional-benefits-of-tabac and http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/7665/benefits-of-nicotine#latest

I can confirm this out of personal experience, the same goes for depression, autism and epilepsy. I have thrown out all my medz years ago and changed it then with supplerments which I found in nature stores. When I discovered snuff a few months ago I only take this with sometimes vitamins. I’m feeling great! Stopping drinking coffee and cola and changing it with tea (and ice-tea) did also a great deal for me.

ADHD “sufferers” are just kids with no discipline in their lives. Either that or a slap round the back of the legs is needed. Can you tell I’m not a parent? lol. Stefan

while a very entertaining perspective that all things can be cured with some snuff … @CVH, you are saying that both autism and epilepsy have been cured in yourself with snuff? as strongly as folks feel about conquering both conditions, i would imagine a bigger push might be made to get all the kids snuffing, snusing, dipping or smoking, yeah? or at least hooking them up with some nicotine based treatment. my son DOES have ADD, dyslexia and dysgraphia … all very real. we don’t medicate him in general, only for school and concentration, don’t do it during summer and winter breaks. ritalin works very well … can’t quite start him on snuff yet since he only just turned 11. but, he may find when he is older, that some form of nicotine serves a purpose for his ADD. i do believe that the condition ADHD is over diagnosed, without a doubt, but seeing it in my own and other kids since both my ex and current wives are teachers, i can attest to it being a real barrier and condition in life for many. and myself, being a kid who was dealt with by a very heavy hand for no reason at all, i can tell you i am not one to advocate striking any child or woman. i reckon the statement is a joke, but i will put it this way, my pops has been dead for 5 years and i haven’t missed him a single day … sad for both me and him.

Viertel - I hold your memory in high regard. clearly you’re doing a lot of snuff.

while a very entertaining perspective that all things can be cured with some snuff … @CVH, you are saying that both autism and epilepsy have been cured in yourself with snuff? as strongly as folks feel about conquering both conditions, i would imagine a bigger push might be made to get all the kids snuffing, snusing, dipping or smoking, yeah? or at least hooking them up with some nicotine based treatment. my son DOES have ADD, dyslexia and dysgraphia … all very real. we don’t medicate him in general, only for school and concentration, don’t do it during summer and winter breaks. ritalin works very well … can’t quite start him on snuff yet since he only just turned 11. but, he may find when he is older, that some form of nicotine serves a purpose for his ADD. i do believe that the condition ADHD is over diagnosed, without a doubt, but seeing it in my own and other kids since both my ex and current wives are teachers, i can attest to it being a real barrier and condition in life for many. and myself, being a kid who was dealt with by a very heavy hand for no reason at all, i can tell you i am not one to advocate striking any child or woman. i reckon the statement is a joke, but i will put it this way, my pops has been dead for 5 years and i haven’t missed him a single day … sad for both me and him.

No not cured, it’s under control. I tend to believe it have all to with dopamine release. I figured this out a few years ago while using cocaine. Away was my autism, adhd, depression and even my epilepsy (can confirm this with blood test, epilepsy is visual in bloodtest and are used to monitor the dosage of the amphetamine containing meds ). Because off my autism I couldn’t talk to a person face 2 face. Got picked on a lot at school hence my depression. My sidename was forest gump or rainman, guess what they were yelling during gym class…Run forest, run… sigh. Cocaine changed this completely in my late teen years. Managed to finish school and college and having since a well paid high end job with even my own employees (not bad for a autist). A few months ago I discovered snuff, quite the same (for me) as cocaine and (il)legal amphetamines (ritalin). It relaxes me rather then f1cking me up like cocaine and amphs. Nicotine releases also dopamine in the brain. But I speak only from personal experience, if the doc says give your kids amphetamines then you should better do it. I’m just a weird crazy (diagnosed) guy on the internet who claims for him nicotine (snuff and snus) works equally as Cocaine and amphetamines, and even prefers this. Here is a link which discuses the relation between Ritalin and Cocaine http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/addiction/issues/ritalin.html To avoid a post about how does an autist gets cocaine. Well, let say this is one of the business lines in the family owned company. I don’t take part in this, I work for my money.

I’m not convinced that A.D.H.D. is a real desease.

I have ADHD and trust me it’s real - it sucks, you can’t think straight and your the worst person ever to work with. If I forget to take my medication I have the most fucked up day ever (Think of every big fuck up you’ve done at work and think about me doing one every hour) Its pretty fucken real for me

well it certainly peaked my interest, @CVH … there are definitely citations out there linking nicotine to autism and epilepsy. i am intrigued, for sure. i am curious to do more research … might explain why i need nicotine so much. and yeah, the it’s common knowledge that ritalin is speed … but if the doc prescribed nicotine, i’d do it too, to help my son focus. it’s still pharmacological … which, in some cases, can treat what you cite … good for nicotine … and you too! i mean, you basically have all the conditions, you self-medicated with cocaine and nicotine … and are also finding nicotine, in the right doses, helps ease all three of your conditions. i say fantastic … beats paying Rx prices. holistic is the way to go, clearly.

@snuffbrant - Loved your comment, should have read it before my rant at poor lunecat… It’s hard describing it to people who haven’t actually seen a person with ADD off their meds… The guys I work with just know if I’ve forgotten to take them or if the prescription has run out then they’re better off to give me a day off than work with me.

I don’t think nicotine cures any diseases. The thing is it seems to help the brain run more effectively. It is proven to ease the symptoms of many mental conditions with very few side effects. Also I am sure ADD is real. I am also sure that it’s not always accurately diagnosised. There are lots of reasons kids can have problems.

I don’t think nicotine cures any diseases. The thing is it seems to help the brain run more effectively. It is proven to ease the symptoms of many mental conditions with very few side effects. Also I am sure ADD is real. I am also sure that it’s not always accurately diagnosed. There are lots of reasons kids can have problems.

I agree it is often misdiagnosed - also many people don’t realise that not only kids get it but also many much older people - some have ADD for all their lives.

@Snuffisthestuff … no worries … tell Lunecat you didn’t take your meds. I feel your pain. and agree with your position. Trust me, at work, in my circle of friends, everywhere, i can definitely pick out someone who is working hard to feel/seem “normal”(whatever that is) and work on focusing on the task(s) at hand, be it homework, a project, etc. and it can be exhausting for them. it is not an easy existence. i can also tell when some meds wear off … it is dramatic for some. all very very real. @bob … agree … nicotine is self-medicating … versus Rx … if it controls it, more the better i say. anything to get us off of big pharma’s teet.

@lunecat You are not convinced ADHD is a disease. Good for you. Do you also have issues believing depression, anxiety, schizophrenia, addiction, and other mental health problems are really diseases? The litmus test for labeling something a disease is not whether there is a physical test available for it. To my knowledge, ADHD is diagnosed through behavioral questionnaires administered to both the patient and a close observer like an immediate family member. I do not have ADHD, but for those that suffer it is very real. I believe it is true that ADHD is over-diagnosed these days, particularly in children, but that fact does not mean the condition does not exist.

I do have ADD, and although ritalin works, if I only need to focus my attention on something for a couple of hours or so, then snuff is much more pleasant. Its seldom that I have to focus my attention intently for eight or more hours anymore, other wise I would need ritalin. Also I don’t miss either my mother or step dad one little bit So one should be careful when one writes of hitting a child.

Is it possible that snuff is giving me ADHD? and maybe dyslexcia? Sort of kidding but it can make me a bit jumpy or jittery or stoned feeling and possibly doesn’t help me greatly with concentration or paranoia (doesn’t mean they are not out to get me). I still seem to like it though and even to dose myself enough to induce the above. Does seem to have an antidepressant effect. Definitely different to smoking. Oh and I caved in on the smoking and am back to smoking some cigars. A bit of a disaster as I was going quite well but I made the mistake of just trying a tin of small cigars and now I’m almost back to square one. My sister is a very heavily medicated epileptic and my nephew (her son) is autistic although not a very bad case and he’s a great little guy. Seems his autism was the result of her medication. When she was pregnant her drug dose was spread more in her blood system and so the level dropped and she ended up in a mental unit until a specialist realised what it was and upped her dose which immediately brought her around but obviously didn’t do my nephew any favours but he’s a happy guy. I’m going to see if the sister likes the chocolate orange snuff I got. I bet she does but I do worry a little about giving her anything on top of her medication. She does smoke.

Is it possible that snuff is giving me ADHD? and maybe dyslexcia? Sort of kidding but it can make me a bit jumpy or jittery or stoned feeling and possibly doesn’t help me greatly with concentration or paranoia (doesn’t mean they are not out to get me). I still seem to like it though and even to dose myself enough to induce the above. Does seem to have an antidepressant effect. Definitely different to smoking.

Drugs effect people differently sometimes drastically Some people have very bad reactions to caffeine I find caffeine to be unpleasant myself.

@lunecat You are not convinced ADHD is a disease. Good for you. Do you also have issues believing depression, anxiety, schizophrenia, addiction, and other mental health problems are really diseases? …

No just ADHD, as the others you mentioned can be proved. Next you will try and tell me obesity is not a case of lazy weak-willed guzzlers not doing enough exercise, but rather a deasease too! Come to think of it obesity & ADHD are both given amphetamines in an attempt to solve what I suspect is basically social conditions. When you have some real proof that ADHD is a real desease ket me know…

yes, i suppose you are right, @lunecat … can’t be proven with a blood test, an MRI, etc. … but actually, can anxiety? can depression? well, yeah, testing levels of dopamine and seratonin could be checked for depression, but do folks actually do this? very rarely, in my anecdotal experience. typically it is through seeing mental health professionals and evaluation. and could be a disease of society, certainly … much like i consider people with bold opinions who we cannot see, touch or look in the eye to be a bit of disease of society. bold assertions are easy with anonymity. in this case, i am leveraging the same disease … but … do you assert also that PTSD is not real? or any of our phobias are not real? these are all inability to cope with outside stressors, yes? i, for one, think all those things are real. just to be clear, ADD, dyslexia, dysgraphia are not an inability to cope with outside stressors … they are all brain related issues, neurons not firing correctly, lower level of cognition in certain areas of the brain, auditory processing issues … these are all wiring issues. Einstein was dyslexic. he was considered mentally slow and unsociable during his childhood. anyway … testing is fairly evident in some children and adults regarding memory recall, focus to attention, whether they can perform tasks sequentially, etc. my son went through days of testing with a child behavioral specialist, and her data was fairly conclusive. but there again, just a mental health doctor, no blood work, no CT scans. so i really cannot prove her diagnosis was hogwash or that he really needed ritalin to help him with school — but i will say, based on her quackery, my son went from D’s and F’s to A’s and B’s, from a very insecure child to one who believes he can succeed. the attention deficit disorder, isn’t a parent unable to cope with an unruly child disorder, though i get where this belief can be founded … my son is a quiet, under the radar kid, not wanting to be noticed because he feels so different because he doesn’t understand why everyone can do things he cannot … it is his inability to process information in the same manner you and i do, or recall it, or understand rules of a test even though they are written at the top of the page, because if he is in the middle or bottom of that page, he cannot manage to remember to ~look~ to the top of the page. it’s a strange thing to understand, i know, but i witness it, all day, every day. so yeah, it’s perfectly fine to believe the way you do … i may have shared that opinion at some point. but do not berate, discount or brush aside anything that is very very real for many people. everyone has their own truth, this is more what i take issue with, and not because you have an opinion to the contrary.

it just seems like your goal is to assert your opinion as fact, (i mean, you cannot disprove our opinion or what is fact for us) without regard for anyone else’s experience. i certainly am not trying to persuade you that you are wrong, just persuade you that we feel something you don’t … and just that others are as right as you are even though we don’t share the same opinion.

maybe we just keep it straight … we all agree to disagree.

I find I like psychedelic music more now when I snuff Must be crazy. Surely that’s proof enough? =))

Try this… snuff whilst doing a handstand… All the blood rushing to your head must have something to do with the friggin rush you get from this.

Try this… snuff whilst doing a handstand… All the blood rushing to your head must have something to do with the friggin rush you get from this.

Maybe it’s this recliner I use at my computer desk? I’ve got some Dholakia White coming and I’m a bit apprehensive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHAqxBCJpKs

… Now I am not for 1 second accusing you of the above, but I see the dreadful trend of people claiming ‘it isn’t me its an illness from which I suffer that is to blame’ for ones actions & I feel many will only be too happy to claim they suffer from ADHD. I wish you all the best for your own future.

First of all I have to say I’m not attacking @Lunecat - Just furthering the discussion. I get where he’s coming from, I do find a lot of people would rather choose the easy way out when it comes to difficulties in life. (Like parenting and being fat) I agree there are a lot of Fakers out there - lots of people also claim they have ADHD or Dyslexia and it’s just because they think it’s cool (Being different etc EMO, Goth, and other idiots) I will say this - Only a few people I know, know I have ADD (Adult attention deficit disorder) I don’t use it as an excuse, I don’t tell anyone about it (Only people I work with need to know) To begin with I didn’t even tell my work, my boss didn’t know anything - then one day I got a change of meds (My doctor gave a placebo just to check to see how long it would take for me to notice!) The very next day was the worst working day of my life, I screwed everything up and I didn’t know what the hell was going on (I knew I’d taken my stuff) - The damage to machinery from that day was well over ten thousand Dollars! Needless to say my boss wasn’t happy and my workmates and he thought I was on drugs (as I was a totally different person) - Ended up having a drug test and it came back clean. Had to tell my boss I took Ritalin and he wanted to speak to my doc… who sheepishly told him they’d given me a placebo. Without my meds I feel less than human, I want to do things but can’t formulate a plan on how to clean the house, feed the cats, and have a shower. Thats why I don’t talk about it, there is nothing “Fun” about it, it’s also not laziness or weakness - I just can’t concentrate on one thing long enough to work out a plan. All in all - Without it I wouldn’t be able to write this much. Have a good day everyone, I’m off to work - Work on a dairy farm and love every moment spent outdoors with nobody around to hassle me if I want to stop and take a great big pinch of Viking blond.

Try this… snuff whilst doing a handstand… All the blood rushing to your head must have something to do with the friggin rush you get from this.

What kind of rubbish is this? I get blood to my head so I should stand on my head, I presume to get more? Yes there are plenty idiots around. I just hope the animals are safe. Keep taking the tablets.

I suffer from anxiety have done for many years and since starting back on the snuff I have noticed a change in my condition for the better.Now I dont know wether it was nicotine withdrawal making my symptoms worse but I do actually feel better since starting to snuff again.I find this strange as by all accounts nicotine is a stimulant so in theory should actually make anxiety worse.Maybe I am just strange!!

@bam nicotine is weird it has stimulant and depressant properties. I know for me it helps calm me down. When I have an anxiety attack, which is rare thanks to therapy and not having super severe anxiety to begin with, snuff + a beer usually stops it in its tracks. But I hate it when people say anxiety is simple to deal with because I’ve had friends with severe anxiety for whom it wasn’t that simple at all. Not that you were saying that I’m speaking in general.

@horus92 I suffer from severe anxiety myself and also hate it when people who have no understanding of the condition tell you its not that bad etc.I have had all the counselling,therapy and meds and it made no difference in fact the meds made it worse.It was only when I did my own research into it did I begin to make any progress.I found a great website and its run by a guy who has made a complete recovery it makes for fascinating reading and I use his methods and they do work.I dont want to post a link in case I am breaking any rules.Its good to see your making great progress with it and I wish you all the best.I dont know about you but their is a strange comfort when you speak to a fellow sufferer maybe its because anxiety can make you feel so isolated its nice to know your not alone.

I said it before Doctors Practice Medicine Most problems can be fixed with natural cures and proper diet. without dependency on pharmaceuticals. Just smelling orange essential oil will brighten your day, But we are discussing Snuff. All you need to know is snuff is safe. And your better off using snuff.

@horus92 I suffer from severe anxiety myself and also hate it when people who have no understanding of the condition tell you its not that bad etc.I have had all the counselling,therapy and meds and it made no difference in fact the meds made it worse.It was only when I did my own research into it did I begin to make any progress.I found a great website and its run by a guy who has made a complete recovery it makes for fascinating reading and I use his methods and they do work.I dont want to post a link in case I am breaking any rules.Its good to see your making great progress with it and I wish you all the best.I dont know about you but their is a strange comfort when you speak to a fellow sufferer maybe its because anxiety can make you feel so isolated its nice to know your not alone.

I’d like to have a look at that website please and I’m sure there are others who would also. I’m not a mod but I don’t think there should be a problem posting the link here or please PM me. I wouldn’t say I have great anxiety but I do notice it occasionally. Seems to come in cycles of a few days every week or two. I think it’s probably a natural mechanism though as long as it does not become to overbearing. Imagine if we had never any anxiety about anything. That could perhaps be even worse?

http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/9491811/reload=0;jsessionid=mT1wcG5pwmYPvUkmAJFA.4 @lunecat, proof?

@I_snuff_therefore__ here is the link hope it helps http://www.anxietynomore.co.uk/

Well, Luncat is kind of right for the wrong reasons. ADD/ADHD are not technically a disease. Neither are they disorders. They are indeed real. It so happens that certain people are wired differently. Its something like left-handedness: they are normal but unusual. They need a different way than the norm in order to focus, remember, or be motivated. Medication is not usually the answer, but can be used n certain cases, since ADD/ADHD come in many varieties and degrees. I just saw a very interesting and informative program on public television last night about Mastering Your ADD. After watching it, I think I may have a touch of it! Or at least some of the techniques that can help, could help me or a lot of people.

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx?Volume=164&page=942&jo “study of relevant mental disorders such as ADHD/HD.”

My autistic nephew, now 10, has a bit of a bizzar phobia. Fear of Balloons, and he is pretty bad with it. You can see him trying to fight and control it but he just cannot. It’s like he constanly scans everywhere for balloons and especially when in somewhere like McDonalds which he otherwise loves. They actually know him and ask all the customers to put their balloons away. He really does seem to see them as some kind of monster. He seems a bit more comforted when I am with him and when I calmly tell him that he has to be brave and not to worry but he still has some deep fear. We once passed an actual ballon shop (never knew they existed) and you can imagine how that went. You have to try and lift him and carry him past but he is so petrified that he gains the strength of a bionic kid and it’s quite a task.

I can understand that, @I_snuff_therefore___ Balloons loom, move, and explode. What’s to like about them? They’re startling. If you love them they die on you sooner or later. As a fellow autist, tell him I completely understand.

^ someone must have snuck up on him when he was little and popped a balloon right next to his ear that scared the living shit out of him, can’t see any other reason why someone would be scared of balloons.

I think it has had something to do with some kid scaring him when popping them. I try and just stay relaxed about it and hope he will grow out of it. He had a lot of disruption as his father remarried and he no longer has contact and I think it’s all linked but he’s a lot more stable now and I think getting a little over it. Must go and see him later. Currently he has a thing were he likes to strip off and get inside his duvet cover and then play attack me. Last week he smacked me on the head with the kitchen door and cut my eye. He used to get all his blankets out and wrap me up like a mummy? His mother says I am the only person that he does that to. I find his quirks amusing when not affecting practicalities. I like how he looks at things a bit unconventianally and who’s to say really who is right? Another thing is he will only let his half brother cut his hair. Used to never let anyone cut his toenails but one day when his mother was out I grabed him and just cut them and then he was ok about it. I suppose he trusts me but still would not let me do it if I had not applied some force but it was over in a couple of minutes and he saw that no harm was done but he still has fears about all these things, otherwise very happy kid. We took him on holiday after my mother died and my sister would not go because she was convinced he would not get onto the plane so I had a talk with him and told him all about how brilliant planes were and stayed talking to him as we prepared for takeoff and no problem whatsoever, he loved it, but if he had decided he wasn’t getting on that plane then that would have been it. No holiday.

I find his quirks amusing when not affecting practicalities. I like how he looks at things a bit unconventianally and who’s to say really who is right?

Brilliant! What a great uncle.

Between friends with smart phones and several specialists, I know who I listen to. You can get a good look at a T-bone, by sticking your head up a bulls ass, but wouldn’t you rather take the butchers word for it. http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx?articleid=177751 @lunecat, want more proof?

No thankyou. I’m still not convienced. But thankyou for your efforts.

No worries friend. I can read it to anyone, but I can’t understand it for everyone. So as long as we’re here, happy snuffing, spoonful’s to all, for whatever ails you. 8-}

oddly enough, i actually tried searching for more than one citation identifying ADHD (or ADD, previously) as a fake condition/disease/etc. … hoping to find something significant. and, surprisingly, I could not - at least not beyond anectodal or borderline speculative, purely conjecture filled articles(of which i found ample supporting both sides of the argument) … in fact, scientifically speaking, a gene variant has been identified, relating to dopamine production and ADHD diagnosed individuals. this, in turn, certainly proves how many of us benefit greatly from nicotine helping to release dopamine in our system. article found here - http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Healthday/brain-studies-show-adhd-real-disease/story?id=4508193#.UbJQKedlmi4

ADD is not an issue of discipline. I have struggled with, and benefited from, this condition my entire life. Discipline was never an issue. I was capable of standing at attention without moving for several hours at a time while in the US Army. And the factors, which in a classroom seemed a handicap, served as a tremendous blessing when I served guard duty, or while driving a Humvee in Iraq. Nothing escaped my attention, as my attention was fixed on all things. Now, back in school, it remains a difficulty to commit attention to a lecture. I can assure you that there is no shortage of discipline or motivation of which to blame. A great deal of ADD, in my opinion, has to do with a failure to expose a person to adequate stimulation. The army was a positive environment for me in this regard; there was no shortage of stimulation. That’s where snuff helps It provides the brain with something to do while you try to listen to a lecture or read a book! Olfactory signals are among the most complex information your brain can experience. This is a reason why, I think, so many of us become fond of the stuff! And when it comes to ADD, it’s like giving your dog a bone with a treat inside to keep him occupied while you study!

Very interesting comment @Kpod although I have never been in the army and I guess in the boy scouts I never went camping in Iraq so maybe don’t fully appreciate some of the context but the dog analogy is simple and good. I don’t think I ever had any difficulty with study and concentration but I know if my nicotine level drops then concentration is completely out the window so what’s being discussed here seems to be something relevant for me like many others. I know I was hyperactive when young and used to rock a lot but thankfully grew out of that some while ago. Great article @snuffbrant. Sort of spooky when you feel that you are reading something which maybe describes yourself but self enlightenment is desirable knowledge. I asked my doctor about this once and I got antidepressants and tried to find out about them online but I really didn’t like that they had no real explanation for how they work and I didn’t like the effect they had on me like pressure headaches so I would not take them. I do honestly feel that nicotine or maybe it’s all of the tabacco alcaloids (which I think works even better) does do something real and that explanation to do with dopamine sounds very plausible to me. Maybe we need to rename this site ADHD/ADDhouse! and have a new label on snuff tins stating that it’s a miracle cure!

oh i’d take that bet there, @lunecat. million dollars says my son doesn’t want to be in the 70%. care to bet? and the diagnosis of ADHD actually is now an umbrella … my son doesn’t suffer from hyperactivity, just attention deficit. much like what happened with autism and asperger’s … doctor’s have modified the diagnosis and lumped “families” of related issues under general titles. Where ADD is now under ADHD as a diagnosis. And when you state he “invented” ADHD, he may have come up with the diagnostic tests for various mental health issues … as he helped with the classification system in the modern era … but i believe that may not be the case, he didn’t “invent” it near as i can tell. it has been treated since the 1700’s … maybe Spitzer named it, but really, i don’t think so. I think your facts might be derived from something specific that isn’t as precise as it could be. where did you read/learn about Spitzer and his classification of ADHD? i may have missed that somewhere. No mention of Spitzer in the history of the diagnosis: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3000907/ also, i have edited the initial post so as not to sound too critical, as an anonymous post can sometimes be on the internet. additional edit - Dr. Robert Spitzer, a giant in psychiatry, is the same man who supported a cure for homosexuality, for which he has since apologized for, thank goodness.

In answer to the question ‘what other benefits does it have?’ it has been a bonding experience with me and my wife, she loves the stuff, which is amazing considering her strong anti-tobacco views, turns out it is the smoke alone that is the problem for her due to her asthma. The richness of the olfactory experience snuff provides though has been a high for her and the nicotine has had beneficial effects too.