I have no predetermined opinions on this, nor any agenda. I’m just curious about snuff use before bed time and its relationship with sleep. Some consider snuff as a stimulant, perhaps not unlike coffee but in different ways. From this I have an open question. Do you hold-off from snuff taking when close to time to sleep? Do you have reason to believe that the effects of snuff might disturb sleeping or possibly the opposite of promoting restful sleep?
I keep snuffing up till bed time and am out when my head hits the pillow.
I snuff anytime of day, sometimes I’ll have a pinch in the middle of the night. Stefan
I always have some Himalaya or Kailash as a nightcap right before bed, I find it helps me sleep.
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For me, nicotine is sometimes relaxing and not always an upper. As long as I don’t wake up having to blow my nose, I would probably fall asleep each night with my face in a pile of snuff. Nicotine can give you some weird dreams tho.
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I use it all day, just before bed, in bed and if i wake I have a pinch of snuff, quit more often than not. I think the stimulant bit lasts about a minute, but I find it realxing as much as stimulating.
@snuffster I tend to agree. I find it relaxing also. Just hit me as odd last night when I thought about how it doesn’t interfere with sleep. I’ve lost a bunch of weight since I started a mix of snuffing and pipe. And weight loss aids are usually strong CNS stimulants (caffeine ephedrine amphetamines etc) and disrupt sleep patterns. This hasn’t at all. Very odd.
I find the nicotine in snuff relaxing. it actually helps me fall asleep. On the Other hand I find the nicotine in snus gives me very vivid and sometimes odd dreams. I have to back off the snus about an hour before bed. After 30 years of a last smoke before bed, nicotine from smokeless tobacco really doesn’t bother me much.
I too find a pinch of snuff before bed relaxing. Odd, as the same snuff first thing in the morning will seem invigorating… I don’t notice a difference on the nights I don’t snuff just before I sleep, so I think it might simply be that I find comfort in the routine.
we are addicts and not having a pinch before sleep would actually stop us from sleeping. Sad but true. I for one regularly wake up needing a pinch.
I love to have a pinch before nodding off. I do pick different snuffs as a nightcap than I do throughout the day. I’m particularly fond of F&T French Carotte or WoS Royal George as a last pinch of the day. I find those scents to be quite relaxing and neither causes much drip so there is no worry about staining the pillow case. The stronger and more moist snuffs I avoid at night. The moist ones because I fear almost falling asleep when I realize I have to blow. The strong snuffs don’t really keep me awake but they don’t lull me into sleep like a floral scent will.
nicotine is both a stimulate and a depressant. Relaxing and stimulating.
Maybe a drug of context is the best description.
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My classification is a bit out of the normal. I consider tobacco as what used to be called a general tonic (good for what ails ya) and along the same lines as an adaptogen (an herb that helps the body). I don’t see it in similar light as recreational drugs (not that I’ve ever done such, of course) because it’s neither strongly stimulating, nor narcotic, nor euphoric. At best it’s mildly stimulating and relaxing in that it seems to help alleviate stress.
That’s nice: a general tonic, and it is a great pick-me up. I go on about this a lot, but when you use a decent amount of it is when you start to appreciate it’s relaxing properties. The ‘hit’ with snuff, to use a bit of a druggy term, has a clean quality I always think. A cigarette always feels slightly toxic when I am smoking the odd one nowadays, snuff gives me a lift that has a great taste and then tapers off into a pleasant calm feeling. In some of the old literature I have read descriptions that talk about the solace snuff gives and it’s soothing effects which I think is very true.
@snuffster, I’ve been thinking along the same lines recently. Snuff and snus both , to me, feel like a cleaner/purer nicotine. I really don’t know why that is, beyond the fact that I’m not inhaling 4000 burnt chemicals.
You have it - smoking is like drinking bathtub gin; the thing you want is in there but also a lot of other crap. With a cigarette I always get a very slight feeling of tiredness afterwards, as though I’ve drugged myself.
@Snuffster: One of my workmates who I have turned on to snuff says it gives him the nic he wants from dip, but he’s a lot calmer, like it’s a much more level nicotine reception, as opposed to an up-and-down peak-and-crash like with dip.
Cigs give a short immediate hit of nic where the feeling doesnt last long. Snuff and dip has a longer lasting hit, but takes longer to peak. This is what Ive noticed.
The Carbon Monoxide and other CRAP from combustion is what makes you feel that way when you smoke. That’s HALF the reason I quit. I was really starting to feel crappy when I smoked…