note the brotherhood that seems to have existed between jews and muslims. Im not saying it doesnt exists in some places today
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/14416-tobacco#anchor3

Yes, I loved that detail of Jews, prohibited from smoking on the Sabbath, visiting “Mohammedan neighbors for the sake of the tobacco smoke in their houses.”  Glad to see that snuff could be used at any time …

Buzz Bubble gum was made for the Jewish Holiday .Well at lease that was my understanding.

the rabbi and his friend are enjoying some snuff

Roderick has mentioned a few times he has a few Jewish customers that LOVE Toque Cheese and Bacon. 

the question is if the cheese and bacon is kosher.

Cheese and Bacon is fine, if you bury the tin when it’s empty.

I like this name of the pipe  “For example, Shivhei Habesht, [3] the legendary biography of the Baal Shem Tov, refers to the famous lulke [4] which the founder of the hasidic movement used to smoke.”

Very interesting, I’ll have to try that Buzz Bubblegum, even if it’s on Saturday!

@basement_shaman Why do you think that “Buzz” was made for a Jewish holiday ? It says on the tin “Smelling Tobacco” in Hebrew, but there is no connection between bubble gum and any Jewish holidays. What I have noticed is that frum ( religious ) Israelis like bubble gum “Bazooka” flavor, but I can’t stand it.

Here there is lots of cheap, Takbik ( snuff ). Comes in little plastic containers mostly super sweet flavors like banana and bazooka. Jerusalemites like more of the medicated snuffs.

But this is only Charadim ( Ultra-Ortodox, like me ). The non-religious have no idea what it is. I had a friend yesterday ask me if non-jews even know what Tabik ( snuff ) is.

There is a song that we sing after the holiday of Simchas Torah, that talks about who we are, one of the lines loosely translates to “We are snuff users”.

@dasr

That should be the “Rebbe” not “Rabbi”

Is that tin of Buzz especially labeled for sale in Israel? @yisraeldov, thats interesting about Tabik. Is it used by many in Israel? Or is it something only old men do? Are its origins European? Snuff seems to be used by many different cultures, and it has different origins in different places. For example, I have often wondered if the Indian snuff market was started by the British, or if has indigenous history. Fascinating subject! That line from the song, “We are snuff users”, is that an ancient Hebrew song? Very interesting.

@mrmanos The song is a Yiddish song, I think it’s origin is from Belarus, but it could have been later in Tiberius.

What I have noticed is that the biggest snuff users are Chasidim, and more the ones of Russian origin. I know there are discussions about smelling snuff in jewish law books from hundreds of years ago, so it is defiantly not a modern thing.

Like I said before, the non-religious don’t know what snuff is. I think the jews from more Eastern backgrounds use snuff in place of cigarettes on shabbos, but I think that might be something they picked up from Askanazim. 

I have never heard of women using it, but that doesn’t mean they don’t. I think that most people who use snuff use it once a week on shabbos, in shul ( synagogue ). I have a few communal tins that I bring. It defiantly has a religious significance. 

@yisraeldov That is what Dave Anderson told me.

I know its off point though I have to say Rabbi’s look so cool, when ever I see Rabbi’s you just know they are wise men that have established themselves. I dont know what all the technical or official terms are though I think its the hat, beard and robe that give me this impression.
What does the two pony tails they have on either side of the head represent? Sorry about my lack of a better word

@Aamon, they aren’t ponny tails. Search google for “Peyos”. I guess you would think I look “so cool” as well, I’m no Rabbi and definitely not a Rebbe, but our whole community wears similar hats and long coats ( not a robe ), and beards. 

@basement_shaman , There are 3 major Jewish holidays, many fast days, and many minor holidays, so “the jewish holiday,” is rather meaningless. 

@yisraeldov I love Judaism and would probably convert if I wasn’t so terrible at learning a second language. The esoteric side of Judaism really fascinates me I probably have around 30 books regarding the Kabbalah. I love the complexity and sheer beauty of all of it.

Thank you for the information

I can confirm that BUZZ was made specifically for Jewish holidays. But there is more to the story.

My wife used to be a flight attendant on private jets.

Back in 2011 she did a trip for one of the head rabbis down in NYC, plus 12 or so of his peeps. They were on some sort of charity mission to Tel Aviv then on to Tbilisi in Georgia.

During the flight she got talking to one of the guys who runs a very successful Jewish news website (over a million subscribers). He had some snuff which, by remarkable coincidence, he had bought from mrsnuff.com. Of course my wife was like, no kidding that’s my husband’s website! They both got all excited and he suggested making a private label snuff specifically for the Jewish community. According to him, bubblegum flavor is popular in Israel.

So Buzz was born. 

You will notice if you look carefully that there is a little airplane pulling the BUZZ banner. That is a nod to the fact that the idea was hatched on a private jet halfway across the atlantic.

Now you know.

Dave

@MrSnuff

I can confirm that bubblegum flavor, Bazooka, is popular here. But I can’t stand it, even when someone opens a tin ( actually Israel snuff comes in those plastic tins ), it stinks up the whole place, IMO.

I think you mean it was made specifically for Israeli Jewish Community, not necessarily for Jewish holidays.

The problem you are going to have is that most of the people who would buy the Bazooka snuff, don’t have internet access, so they can’t access your website. I’m curious how many of the people who bought it were your initial target audience. 

@yisraeldov

you are right of course, it was initially made for the Jewish community, with, in particular, the high holidays in mind. My apologies, I should have been more specific given your response above.

I am not sure how much of it goes to the initial target audience. It appears, in the USA at least, the the large NY community prefers highly mentholated snuffs such as JH Wilson Medicated 99 and Hedges. We see large orders for those come through right before Yom Kippur, Rosh Hashanna, Purim, Passover and Simchat Torah. We have several rabbis who buy in bulk quantities for their congregation.

@MrSnuff

Do you see many orders to Israel at all ? 

I have been ordering for my neighborhood and it always seems that people want the opposite of what I ordered. If I ordered lots of medicated, people request sweet. If I order sweet people want medicated. One thing is that it needs to have a strong smell.

In my next order I will put some Buzz in, I’m sure someone will want it.

BTW, you must do track and sign if you are going to ship to Israel, the post service here is just awful, I can give you more details if you want, but I ordered from you and you didn’t send track and sign and it took almost a month to get here. I ordered from snuff.me ( after I ordered from you ) and it got to me in 6 days with track and sign. I mentioned this to the live support on your site, that there is no option for track and sign and never heard back.

@yisraeldov

I will take a look at track and sign. It was causing us some issues. If I can reinstate it I will.

@MrSnuff

Thanks for looking into it, It is one of the reasons that I have be reluctant to place another order ( everything from the last order is already gone )

Do you ship a lot to Israel ? I know there are lots of snuff users here but most don’t have internet connection. 

@yisraeldov

yes we ship to Israel. I just took a quick peak and we ship to various Israeli customers several times every week. Not a huge market, but certainly a market nonetheless.

@ yisraeldov & mrsnuff a lot of interesting information about the Israel market Does anyone know about 6 photo snuff there ?

@sixphoto I’ve never seen anything here except for WoS and israeli snuff.

So which are the major brands and manufacturers of Israel ?

I don’t think there are any “major” brands, most are just someone making in their basement.

That’s quite nice to read actually like Jewish people slipping a few bucks to Christian neighbours to light their fires for them on the Sabbath: interesting!

@matteob, not sure where you got that from but that is not permitted in jewish law. 

Ohhh I did not know that. It was a common practice though in London back in the day I believe. I read it somewhere. I might have got my facts wrong though!

@yisraeldov i have heard (and read) pretty simmiliar stories about shabes gojim who are doing things (work) which is forbidden by jewish law. Even heard a story about a story about one rabbi who is heavy smoker while he was invited somewhere on Saturday (in the day time) and he met a fellow smoker (a non Jew) and he asked him repeatedly if he can lit his cigarette and after few (re)lights, those fellow aked him: Do you lost your lighter Dear Sir? And he replies No, I am just ordinary Jew and I am not allowed to light a fire during Sabbath. And the fellow replies Ah I see…
Jack

While there is such a thing as a shabbos goy, it is only permited to use in very limited circumstances. Smoking is defiantly not one of the circumstances.  Even if it was permitted to have a non-jew light a cigarette (it’s not ) it would not be permitted to inhale, because it would cause it to burn faster.  The laws of “Amira Lakum” ( asking something from a non-jew) are very complex, and I wouldn’t be surprised if some one was mistaken.  Also it is important to know that not everyone who may look like a rabbi is one ( even if they call them selves rabbi ). Growing a beard and buying a hat is easy. 

But this thread is getting away from snuff and might get closed as religious discussion. 

I enjoy the discussion tbh. I read it in an autobiography I think. A young lad saying how his Jewish neighbours gave him some pocket money to go in and light their fire.

Tobacco has not been around the civilized world that long, about 500 years. The religion had been around much longer. Must be a fairly new law: less than 500 yrs old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deB_u-to-IE

We are going to get this thread closed.

@basement_shaman

Your logic is flawed. 

First of all 500 years is half a millennium not a century.

Second just because guns weren’t around 1000 years ago doesn’t mean that there did not already exist a prohibition against murder. 

There is a prohibition against burning on shabbos, doesn’t matter what. But burning tobacco will fall under that prohibition if it wasn’t around  thousands of years ago.

It should be obvious that I’m oversimplifying the prohibition by calling it “burning,”  but I need to use terms that you all, being completely unfamiliar with Jewish law, can understand.

So happy I am a Reprobate  Infidel  Heretic Cynic Heathen. >:) 
It is true,  I will never understand law. Here are some silly ones. 

Bingo games cannot last more than 5 hours (North Carolina) ,Chickens are not allowed to cross the road (Quitman, Georgia) ,If you cut down a cactus, you could be sentenced to 25 years in prison (Arizona) ,Policemen are allowed to bite a dog if they think it will calm the dog down (Paulding, Ohio]

On a totally different subject (though I find Judaism fascinating) just how vile is that bubblegum snuff? I quite liked the traditional bubble gum as a boy. No need to close the thread surely? We are all gentlemen (I hope)

@matteob I think that most of us are gentlemen.

I can’t  stand the bubble gum snuff. Even being next to an open tin.

Hi yisraeldov, I do think religious topics are interesting if they are posted for edification and not for evangelising.
As with many things it’s a matter of context and intent

I agree its a shame we cannot talk about snuff and religion. The way I see it as long as theres no preaching, attempting to covert members or insulting or defaming other people for their beliefs, I do not see an issue with it. Though I cant be 100% sure I believe the members who have done this in the past have had their accounts deleted for repetitive ungentlemanly behavior. Though even with a blanket statement bann on no religious talk, there should be an exception for borderline religious material considering the main topic is of snuff and not religion. In my opinion anyway.

@Aamon I agree I am on a few forums where there is a blanket ban but as long as people can talk in a civilized fashion I don’t see the problem. I am Christian but I have many Jewish and Muslim, Hundu and Buddhist friends and I enjoy talking about their cultures.

I find yisraeldov’s snuff videos on youtube interesting and have subscribed. @yisraeldov you won’t like the Toque Spanish Gem Abrosia then! I like Roderick’s snuff on the whole but that definitely has hints of bubble gum to my nose!

@tboyer @aamon

I agree, especially since religion has such an impact on many cultures. The problem is that some people seem to have the need to challenge any religious beliefs.  

@matteob Thanks for your support.

@yisraeldov i’m glad to read something about judaism and snuf and tobacco, because i’ve some jew ancestor in my familly and i’m allways want to go deeper in judaism and other thing around

@Leffo, checkout my youtube channel then

@yisraeldov thanks

Interesting.  My father, a Catholic, lived in a neighbourhood in Dublin where there were many Jewish people from Europe.  He was born in 1906, to give some idea of timescale.  His next door neighbours were Jewish.  As a boy, he used to go next door and tend the fire for them on Shabbos, and I suppose he received some extra pocket money in return.  Clearly, then, his neighbours observed the Law, though I don’t suppose they were ultra-orthodox by any means.  I remember the shul just along the South Circular Road, but it became a factory in my time, and all the Jewish people left.

@yisraeldov I am a Ukrainian/Belarusian Jew that came to live in Brooklyn N.Y. My last name is known Schechter for the grand Rebbe. I can absolutely confirm everything Yisraeldov has said, and yes Russian Jews love our snuff. There are laws regarding usage, and what not, but I know of no connection to a snuff on a Holy day. If anything we refrain on these days or, should. Shabbat Shalom to all.

Wow, great thread!  My father’s side of my family is also Brooklyn Russian-Jewish, but I never heard of snuff in the family.  My dad was not religious, and he smoked a pipe and cigars.  Not sure about his father, who was the one that emigrated.

My grandather on my mother;s side smoked cigars, but that’s about it. His family was originally from Poland. My grandmother’s family came from Russia.

@Aschectesnuffs Why sould you say not to use Snuff on Holly days? If anything there is an increased ussage, especially on Yom Kippur, the nicotine helps with the fasting.