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Ok, now I dont want anyone to get the wrong idea. Not trying to get anyone in shape. I have been partying and pretty unhealthy for most of my life. Just past my mid 30s. Anyway, I have been hiking a lot over the summer to get ready for the snow and having some fun in the winter.  Well, at the beginning of summer I went for about 5 miles, in the mountains for 3 days in a row. Afterward felt like I was dying, for almost 10 days, no rest from work.

 I started using a inversion table that was sitting around waiting for some horrible day.  I take a few large pinches and flip and the tobacco sits on the sinuses, my head starts spinning, intense buzz like no other. Its almost painful, drowning like…  I have to flip to a horizontal position and feel like im floating. It also has happened doing some of the low back pain routines. Also, while I am doing the work out I use HUGE amounts. Maybe just because nicotine motivates me… who knows…

No clue why I shared that other than I had seen people saying their snuff was not strong enough.  I have been doing this every night for a couple months now. No snuff gives me a buzz with normal use. But, this like laying in bed with a pile of schmalzler is a great way to get a little extra oomph. 

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Although I have been doing a lot of tedious and sometimes exhausting landscape work, I feel like lately I’ve not been getting enough of a cardiovascular routine in my daily exertions. Back in the 90s I did a great deal of vigorous walking, sometimes hours, plus being on my feet in a retail store carrying totes and stocking shelves. Back then I smoked and never felt tired or fatigued.

I wonder if I got into a similar thing as I had back then, but using snuff and snus instead of cigarettes, whether I’d have better stamina. One thing I do know though, is that I can still wear a lot of the same clothes in my late 40s that I did in my early 20, and tobacco is a major part of the reason.

I have a slant board here, which I suspect is the same thing as the inversion table you refer to. I may try that some time after snuffing to see if I get some of the effects you are mentioning. I see nicotine as a brilliant medicine, especially in its anti-inflammatory aspect, which is why I don’t experience the kinds of aches and pains of my age peers, and I can only wonder what other degenerations it is holding off.

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I have a morning and evening workout, with a 16 mile cycling commute in between. Snuff definetly helps with the cycling - the nicotine makes me more alert and focused, whilst inducing a calmness conducive to enjoying the ride. It also seems to potentiate the fix of adrenaline. It could be psychosomatic, but I find snuff to be a worthy addition to a healthy lifestyle regardless.

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I am also trying to get healthier. I’m on BP mess right now so I limit my snuff usage. I like how it can mellow me out and I’ll take a pinch in between meals to forget I’m hungry. I’m hoping that nicotine in addition to calming with help with the metabolism.

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I experience an appetite suppressant effect when snuffing @paN1k. I’m not sure if it’s the physiological effect of nicotine intake, or the psychosomatic effect of olfactory sensory stimulation. Probably a bit of both!

As a mental health practitioner, I do tend to muse over the potential psychophysiological aspects of snuffing. The calming effects of nicotine insufflation, certainly contributes to a sense of focused, objective well-being… but I’m sure I sense something deeper. I’ve never explored aromatherapy or the likes (far too airy fairy), but I do personally experience the combination of stimulating scents / comforting aromas with nicotine, to be very therapeutic. 

Food for thought… but apologies @coreymillia for going off on a tangent, or derailing the thread. I just think that exercise, physical health, and mental / emotional well being, are all closely interconnected.

God I’d love to do a randomized controlled trial on the therapeutic aspects of snuffing!   
  
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I think it’s great you’re trying to get healthy, @coreymillia .  I have three jobs, one as a field geotechnician, I work sous for a busy catering company, and I’m a tobacconist as a “fun” job.  Needless to say, I work a lot.  I also train in martial arts, host music events monthly, and still manage have time to drink heavily with my chefs and when sober again, write and scribble nonsense.

All things considered, I’m in better shape than I was throughout my 20s as a shitty punk rock kid.  Nicotine has an incredible value to it in my life, between my pipe and now snuff, to give me a little re-alignment to deal with other human beings, overcome my own stagnation, and to calm the social anxieties that happen on a regular basis.  

As far as I’m concerned, if it enhances your life and makes you better, it’s worth doing.  Exercise, and all things in natural moderation (even those deemed “bad”) sure can do a lot for mental and physical well-being.  As Anthony Bordain has been quoted as saying, “Your body is not a temple, it’s an amusement park. Enjoy the ride.”   (…even amusement parks need maintenance to stay safe and fun…)  

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@KyleWeiss Hey thanks. Thats pretty cool. I imagine the martial arts is pretty intensive. I still like some shitty punk. Or at least some Dead Kennedys. Its more about the bass now. I have still been exercising, every night. Its kind of become a habit. Just ready for some friggin snow. Any day now.

 I kind of want to pick up a pipe. Just 3 maybe 4 years as a non smoker of quality rolling tobacco… I know myself. This is probably a stupid question. But do you inhale your pipe tobacco?

@Nulliverse 16 miles a day! That is great! I have not been able to get out an hike very far in over a week. Now that the sun goes down at 4 in the afternoon my entire schedule is changed. I never want to eat, I really believe nicotine helps suppress the appetite. But, this entire year 80% of what I eat have been smoothies and salads. That all started because I gave up cooking. Snuff definitely keeps me mentally calm.

It has been gearing me up for the winter. I live at 10,000ft. There is not much to do.  Snow parks are 2 hours away, then kids are all dusting and laughing at you… Ok well its pretty fun. I just hate the drive. But, sometimes we get  FEET of deep snow here. I have one board that is a bindingless snowboard. Called a powderboard.  We go out in the woods and climb to the steepest deepest mountains and ride down. Getting to the top is not easy if you are out of shape. But coming back down its like riding on water. Its so fun. Thats what started all this… Theres nothing like a pinch of snuff when you are at the top of a hill, that just about beat you to death on the way up. I think it comes back to the calming effect.

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@coreymillia …nope, I do not inhale, or at least I try my hardest not to.  A few whiffs will go up my nose, but it’s so minimal I don’t notice it.  I try to protect my lungs as best I can without being neurotic about it.  I have a worse time working cigar parties at my shop and avoiding smoke, and I feel pretty crappy afterward, usually.  In any case, I still plod on and keep healthy.  Exercise is important no matter what your vices are, overall health, age or condition.  Far from being a health nut, my idea is that you don’t live a fulfilling life by either inactivity or over-activity.  Everything, even supposedly healthy-stuff is all best in moderation with proper challenges.   It’s my body, and if I feel great–I keep doing it.   :)   Changes and adaptations notwithstanding.