Hello, I’m very new to snuff. I’m from Istanbul, Turkey and smokeless tobacco products are not available here since there’s no or little demand. It is not illegal to use, there may be some demand later, due to forthcoming ban for smoking in public. Anyways, a friend introduced nasal snuff to me a month ago. He had Copenhagen and Skoal dipping tobacco along with other snuffs. He mixed these with others such as Pöschl Gletscher Prise or Gawith Apricot to make some blends for himself. So I have been using these blends through the nose since then, for about 5-10 pinches a day. I liked it actually. I’m not a smoker. I quitted 5 years ago. But snuff seems like a nice hobby. So I kept researching and reading about smokeless tobacco and snuff. I learnt new things, thanks to Snuffhouse and other sites. But have not come across to any usage of Copenhagen as nasal snuff. Adversely there were some remarks like dipping tobacco should not be consumed through sniffing. I don’t have any other choice for nasal snuff so I’m kinda stuck with a can of 1/2 Copenhagen dipping tobacco blended with 1/4 Gletscher Prise and 1/4 Gawith Apricot. What do you say, is it completely wrong to sniff Copenhagen or Skoal? What about using cigarette tobacco nasally? I seem desperate, huh ? Thanks for comments…

i would not advise sniffing cig tabacco at all even ground up as it contains chemicals hence its not natural ! .why dont you order from toque or snuff house ? They deliver world wide links are to the left of this web page . Chewing tobacco is ment for the mouth i realy dont think you should sniff it like that it will prob burn your nose after some time . Im in no way an expert this is my own thoughts so i may be wrong but wanted to help you .but honestly my advise is dont go sniffing cigs mate order some of your own stuff in . . . .

Thanks for the input davec… My friend told me that he put some orders over the Internet previously but customs confiscated the items since they don’t know what it is, after all it is a brown powdery substance… As I said snuff is a very ambiguous concept here. I’m thinking to risk few bucks and place an order and experience myself. Maybe I get lucky.

It is possible to make your own, and some members do, but much easier to buy. Most oral tobaccos would not make good snuff, even though it would be possible to do it. If it really proves impossible to import it, then there is enough expertise here to talk you through the processes involved, but if I was in your position I would just put in a few seperate orders and trust some to make it through.

I’ve seen videos from the late seventies in turkey where it looks as if people in the background are snuffing something. Maybe asking around from older people might help. Some dry hooka tobaccos might be able to be used for snuff. There has to be someone who can help you.

Roderick, is it possible to include a message to customs to make it very clear exactly what you are sending and perhaps increase the odds of it getting through? @wishmaster- I’m curious as to how your friend acquired the gletscherprise and gawith apricot? I wonder if Namrata would have any suggestions (she’s a snuff producer in India)

Laws vary widely from country to country, but even the people who deal with incoming goods for their jobs often don’t know the law.

bob: You’re right, it is said that people used to use snuff. The national tobacco monopoly company (later de-regulated) used to produce it. From the beginning of 80’s it declined and it seems like an ancient tale now. No one seems to know. I really looked through most of the possible places in Istanbul. Only snuff mentioned is some kind of medicine applied to open nostrils… hydrahead: I contacted Toque and placed an order. I’m waiting now. snuffster: Thanks for the tip, I hope I don’t have to produce my own. At least not until for hobbying I’ll just wait and see if my order reaches me… onefortheroad: My friend had acquired them from his friends traveling abroad. You can bring some amount with you into the country. It is not banned. Just there seems to be no specification in the law for importing.

Additionally, roderick and onefortheroad: I think its best not to include an additional special message to customs. Chances are they don’t let it pass. Let’s apply the usual please.

You’re probably right wishmaster. And just the fact that toque says “don’t smoke, snuff toque” on the packaging should be enough to make it clear that it’s not drugs. Good luck with your order. Let us know how it goes. And welcome to the forum.

I’ve taken pipe tobacco and ground it down to a fine powder for snuffing before. There are guides available; see here: http://www.snufftalk.org/index\\_files/msnuffmaking.htm

I’ve never tried sniffing dip tobacco, but I wouldn’t recommend it. I would imagine it would burn like hell and taste worse.

I doubt it would burn any worse than Taxi, which is actually pleasant, and shouldn’t taste any different than when used orally. Copenhagen snuff, makes sense to at least give it a go, it actually is snuff after all.

Yep hydrahead8883, for about 30 years, theres nothing else quite like it!

Speaking of Copenhagen, do they still make Cope Black? That was the best dip in the world as far as I’m concerned. I think it was discontinued when the brought out the new Whiskey Blend a couple years ago. I’d do just about anything for a tin of the Black again.

I could swear I saw some Cope Black but it was pouched, is that the way it was sold? I only use to use the snuff and didn’t get any, haven’t seen it since. It might have just been the Hickory or Whiskey too, I never paid much attention to anything but the Snuff before.

Doesn’t dip contain salts to help with oral use? That might be a really bad idea for snuffing.

I guess you mean bad idea snuffbox… Does Taxi contain the same stuff/salt as Copenhagen? They both have some sort of similar salty flavor and Taxi doesn’t bother me when sniffing it, it’s actually made for both oral and nasal use. So, I don’t know if snuffing Cope Snuff is a good idea or not, does the word Snuff mean Cope can be sniffed too?

Thanks snuffdog. I fixed my post. Taxi is snuff as far as I know, not dip. Cope is not snuff, it’s definitely dip. It was never meant to be snuffed as far as I know. Trout is one of the most knowledgable guys on here, maybe he has something to add. Also Cope is too damn expensive to snuff! There are many good snuffs on the market, I can’t imagine why anyone would snuff Cope!

It is something I would say would work for an “emergency pinch”. But its not something I would recommend to use on a regular basis. It will be salty in the nose like mentioned before. Now you would need to dry it & grind finer to use but again its not something I wouldn’t personally recommend to use regularly in the nose since it is made for the mouth. But something snuffgrinder pointed out before, swedish snus & american dip actually have a lower alkaline additive content than European nasal snuff. You would be better off making a snuff from a cigar, pipe tobacco or an additive free cigarette rolling tobacco. Some cigars can make some nice snuff.

Kudos for ingenuity!

I sniffed cope when I was young and dumb don’t try it at home kids you wont like it.

Honestly, I didn’t expect this amount of replies and comments. Thanks for the help, it’s highly appreciated. For two days now, I have been snuffing Kloster Andechs, Pöschl Schmalzlers Südfrucht and Doppelaroma and Gleitsch Prise which I acquired from a friend visiting abroad. So I have an idea what actually nasal snuff tastes like. And I can comment that snuff mixed with Copenhagen or skoal does not taste that bad. Of course it tastes completely different and nasal health is another matter, but in terms of taste and experience, I’m not disgusted with Copenhagen in the nose. As a result I think I will follow your recommendations and don’t use it continually. @Juxtaposer: Scarcity becomes the ignition of ingenuity… @Troutstroker: Did you mean “swedish snus & american dip actually have a HIGHER alkaline additive content than European nasal snuff” ? I suppose alkaline additives are not good for health, right? As far as I can understand, eurpoean nasal snuffs are the most healthy tobacco products.

@Troutstroker, cigars as snuff sounds like a great idea! Is there anything to do with the tobacco like baking soda or toasting, or just grind and sniff? I got a bunch of good cigars and can’t smoke em where I’d enjoy em very often anymore.

snuffdog, All you need to do is grind it, run through a sieve & grind again as necessary. You can add your own flavoring to it if you want.

Thanks TS, got quite a few Cubanos and I mean to do one of them that way, or at least a good piece of one. Good way to stretch it out I’d think. I bet the strong flavor of a good cigar will be great that way. If I’m not mistaken cigar tobacco might release the nicotine pretty well that way too. :?

Hi All, I hope I’m not doing something too unappropriate by reanimating a “dead” topic but I just wanted to share that I received my Toque order today. I had my concerns about shipping to Turkey. It took a bit long, 21 days to be exact. But hey, eventually it worked! Today this made me cheer like a boy waiting for a birthday present. Thank you all and thanks to snuff itself And my snuff collection so far…

awesome

bigblue, bob, thanks for the caring, friends. I got Peppermint, Original, Chocolate, Vanilla and Raspberry from Toque, as Roderick suggested. By the way, I specially would like to thank Roderick for his close support in the delivery process. Silver tin is Ozona. Red container is Swedish Match’s Kensington. One of the Andech’s box is filled with Pöschl Schmalzler Doppel Aroma and Ozona president box actually contains Pöschl Schmalzler Sudfrucht. About the glass jars… I wondered if anyone would ask These are originally jam jars. I use them to store blends. The ones I mentioned with Copenhagens. The more I look into Turkish snuff tradition and community, I find out interesting things. As I said earlier, untli 80s snuff actually was a wide spread custom. My grand aunt yesterday told me that his father and she used to take snuff regularly. But somehow it had disappeared. In some circles the tradition still lives. Interestingly I hear from the living elders that they have taken snuff for generations, nearly from late 1800s, and tell that they and their fathers were only accustomed to take snuff blended with Copenhagen or Skoal. When shared your opinions about this, some of them were apalled and “challenged” that Europeans don’t know snuff, so to speak :). I know dipping is not intended for snuffing, maybe the company itself don’t see it that way but here in Turkey, descendants from the late Ottomans and young snuff enthusiasts also use it this way. Honestly I myself also enjoy it this type from time to time and must recommend you at least once to experience it. Of course, non-blended European type snuff is also widely used among the users… So I offer it to the community in terms of some “authentic”, if not “weird”, way of snuffing Inspired by snuffhouse.org, we are in the process of building a web site for Turkish snuff users. When it goes live, there may be other interesting things to share with you. I see snuff not only as a different habbit or addiction, but also some enjoyable and colourful journey… Regards

I noticed that the cope container is plastic rather than waxed cardboard with a metal lid. This raises the question are the contents the same as is sold in the US? It may be that US smokeless sells a deferent product that is more conducive to nasal use outside the US.

That may be it bigblue.

Glad to hear your order got through Wishmaster, enjoy your snuff.

Wishmaster: NIce to see! I also live in a non-snuffing country, and order everything from Wilsons in England. I recently made some nice mocca snuff from a base of Esfahan Tumbac, which is know is available practically everywhere in Turkey. You can even sniff this on its own, since the tobacco is so good. A coffee grinder and a fine sieve will give you a nice snuff. Try toast the leaves slightly in a saucepan before grinding.

All I have to say is WHOA!! The Turks really know what they’re doing. I gave the cramming method with Cope Snuff a try. It works mighty well. You get all the flavor/smell. The nic hit. And you don’t have to carry a make shift soda can cuspidor. My head is all tingly just like I would expect from a real Cope lip. NTSU fans heads up! Wasn’t there a guy a couple of days ago asking for a strong snuff to quit the Cope on? Looks like he could just push it in the nose instead of the mouth. The grind is a little off but otherwise quite a ride.