Hello everyone. I am starting this thread because I see a lot of threads lately that are dedicated to a single, simple question that doesn’t really need a whole discussion about it. I also find myself with ‘small’ questions and never ask them because I don’t want to start a whole new thread to ask them. So I was hoping this thread could be a place to put these short questions. I will start off with a couple: 1. What does a pound of snuff look like next to a dollar bill for reference? If anyone has a pound of snuff sitting around and would take a picture, that would be great. 2. I heard mention of asafetida being used in some Indian snuffs. Is this true and, if so, which snuffs? 3. I’d like to answer a question I was going to ask. Apparently, to remove odor from a jar (I have been using emptied salsa jars to store snuff) let it sit in sunlight with baking soda and/or vinegar in it for a couple days.
Finding a pound of snuff in this house is no problem, but you’d have to send me a dollar bill to photograph alongside it!
or next to a ruler or something. dollar bill is just common for scale reference in pictures.
- You can see a picture of a pound drum on the Sharrow website. Imagine something about twice the size of a standard jar of instant coffee. 2. Never heard of any, but maybe? 3. Yes. Actually both will work on their own as well. Vinegar is extremely good at getting rid of smells, just needs a good rinse after use. I once cleaned an absolutely stinking pint mug that had been used as an ashtray for years and it got rid of all the whiff in 5 minutes.
another question: Why do fresh snuffs smell of ammonia?
PM here’s a pic from the collection of our very own OscarWabbit showing a 1lb WoS Camphor & Mild drum http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z24/OscarWabbit/883e3620.jpg
Ammonia isn’t added to snus, but the natural aging gives it an ammonia scent until it airs out. Ammonia compounds occur naturally in tobacco. Tobaccos containing natural ammonia compounds and sugars which react with one another during the curing and aging process. Their reaction gives tobacco naturally pleasant aromas and flavors.
All it ever signifies for a snuffer is that his snuff is fresh.
Regarding the 4-digit serial number on the back of Poschl tapboxes - according to comments left on this video review (link below), fresh ones are now with serial numbers starting with 7 or 8. I recently finished my Ozona President, and bought a new one, and the serial number on the new one is 2450… it seems to ‘taste’ OK, but is it actually ‘past its use by date’ so to speak? http://www.youtube.com/all\\_comments?v=WLHYXP8aFr4
Now that really is embracing a new hobby, I didn’t even know they had serial numbers,lol
A question for this thread. Am I right in thinking that, although snus may not be sold in the UK, it’s use is not actually unlawful. Also there is no duty to pay on this form? Any experiences from UK users?
None of the regulations about tobacco, of any form, relate to ownership or possession in the same way the law regulates and prohibits certain drugs. You can buy, possess and use snus in the UK; it just can not be sold to you by a retailer in the UK. The loophole way of buying it is of course online - although that has changed recently because of a lawsuit filed in Denmark regarding Swedish exports of snus. The content of that suit is not important, just the result for UK snus users: you now have to buy snus via a non EU warehouse, which in practice means buying from the US, albeit a warehouse owned by a company like the Northener. People seem to have had different experiences - possibly due to website issues but speaking personally; I am able to buy snus from the Northener site without any problems. Why I can and others have been unable to is beyond me. There have been no duty issues but the snus now takes two weeks to get to me. My honest advice: don’t get too much of a liking for snus as its an expensive hassle now. You are far better, in my view, to buy some of our fantastic, home-made English chew from Snuffstore. I tried snus way after most people and found it pleasant enough but just not available enough for me.
Yes thanks for that. Pretty much as I expected. I was reassured to see that snus cannot be taxed at the smoking rate in the UK. In view of this I do not think anyone can be hit for excise or additional duty. My snus is on order from Swedish Snus.com, and has been shipped from PA. Two weeks sounds a long time - interesting to see whether mine gets here quicker . I have a bit of Black Pigtail Vanilla in now, and I am certainly getting the taste for these ones. Heck of a lot cheaper too I think. I’m prepared to spoil myself rotten with anything so long as it’s not for smoking. I’m down to about two small bowls of flake a day. Would like to get this down further to maybe a couple of good bowls a week. I’m still moving steadily in this direction thanks largely to your excellent site and the info and ideas available here. So, Many Thanks. (An old tip from Pieter, a bit of twist can be wrapped in kitchen towel to make a kind of portion, for the squeemish).
I’m not finding much on this… a question for the pipe gurus. Do strongly sweetened pipe tobaccos tend to clump in a pipe due to caramelization?
Not noticed that, but strongly sweetened often means very moist, so tobaccos like that can ‘smoke wet’; where you get a tarlike deposit in the bottom of the bowl and creeping up the stem. If you go on to Mcgahey’s website, there is a section called ‘ask Martin’ where you can look at literally hundreds of pipe questions or ask one yourself. He is one of the internet’s great experts on pipe smoking and has lots of remedies for pipe smokers.
Ive got one, Why does everybody look down on captain black pipe tobacco? The cigars smell and taste DELICOUS. I cant understand why people dislike it so much.
I hate Captain Black pipe tobacco because it is crappy tobacco soaked in crappy flavouring, once you have had quality English pipe tobacco there is no going back
@n9inch Captain Black (white pouch) is awful to me. Maybe if I didn’t buy it in a crappy grocery/tobacco mart in a crappy city for the first time and it came if different packaging I could have liked it, but I doubt it.
There´s also a significant difference between US Captain Black White and the Euro version (it lacks the Coumarin).
xapken Not really sure what you mean by sweetened pipe tobacco. What’s an example? I find that flakes and twists burn with a lot less moisture than aromatics and mixes, which are not really my thing. I have a general rule that the more FANTASTIC the smell of these in the tin and on first lighting, the crappier they smoke, - with a few exceptions.
@xapen aromatics tend to create a goop at the bottom of the pipe which is why many pipe smokers have a specific pipe for aromatics. sometimes (and definitely not always) an aromatic will create a ‘ghost’ flavor in the pipe that lingers when smoking other non-aromatic blends (similar to using a snuffbox for one snuff and then another without cleaning). never heard of any caramelization happening!
I recently bought a few grams of Peter Stokkebye 's Natural at my local shop. Do you consider this in the same league as other OTC drug store pipe tobacco? It does kind of remind me of that.
toffee in your pipe doesn’t sound like a good thing
@bipolarbear I wouldn’t put it in the same league with drug store blends. Half my smoking rotation is Peter Stokkebye–never tried Natural though–and they are on par with C&D and SG.
Pike Mopers, good to know!
I smoke Stokkebye blends occasionally, and while I wouldn’t put them in the same league as premium brands like C&D and Sam Gawith, they’re a step above OTC brands. Not that OTC brands are bad – I enjoy a pipe or two of Carter Hall or Prince Albert once in a while. But OTC blends tend to be rather one-dimensional. So, IMHO, I guess I’d have to rate Stokkebye at two dimensions. For the full 3D experience, though, get a premium brand. As for the Captain Black question: the CB that is available around here smells wonderful, but has no flavor. It’s like smoking shredded paper.
The only Captian Black I smoke is Royal, Blue Lable. I only buy the 14 oz tins. edm
The problem with captain black is that it a) doesn’t smoke like it smells, and b) is so loaded down with humectant (propelene glycol) that it tends to smoke wet and steamy. The steam produced by smoking it tends to lead, naturally enough, to tongue bite, which doesn’t tend to endear a tobacco to its smokers.
Pipe Mopers - I’ve detected asofetida in Dholokia White. Not sure if it was stored near it in a factory or if it was actually added to the snuff… It’s a potent spice so the snuff could have picked it up in a warehouse.
Would that account foe the charming aroma of dead fish?
@Pike Mopers I’m guessing part of that goop is half-burnt sugar. From what I’ve read some brands are up to 10% added sugar by weight in the casing. To me that seems like quite a bit and would make a mess in the pipe.
There is sugars in tobacco leaves, just like all plants. That is why people say to smoke pipes and cigars slow and cool, so that you get the most out of the flavor of the sugars, instead of burning them up real hot which destroys the flavor. There’s nothing wrong with captain black, if that is what your into. Only snobs look down on it. I tend to smoke VAs and VAPERS nowadays.
Sounds like the equivalent of Clan or something.
captain black is horrible in my opinion. However very very impotant thing to note with pipe tobaccos is that your smoking style and pipe used can completely change the flavor of a smoke. I’ve had a pipe that many tobaccos I normaly hated smoked awesome in it, while the ones I normaly liked not so much. In a round about way I’am saying you never really know what someone is really smoking in their pipe
I love high end pipe tobacco’s but IMO you still can’t beat good old fashioned Condor. Cheap, (for England anyway), and available everywhere. It is definately a love it or hate it baccy, but strong in the nic department. It’s like the NTSU of the pipe world. Stefan
Condor original is great, just chopped up twist I suppose - no pre-cut tobacco like it.
Is it me, or does Toque’s W&H smell a lot like Wilson’s #22?
It does, you’re right. A lot of people smell bacon in 22, never had that thought.
Do different pipe tobaccos work better in bowls of different inside diameter? I’ve seen some with bowls cut wide enough that one could easily shove their thumb into it, while others are so small not even a pinky finger would fit.
yes yes yes
No hard and fast rules. Think smaller bowl for flakes and twist, bigger bowls for those finer cut mixtures…Whatever you like though. If you filled a large bowl with twist or plug you’d get half an ounce or more in there easy! You’d be smoking it for hours.
Do you think a pipe is a great way to break away from cigarettes as oppose to e-cigs? I believe with Superior snuff coupled with Irish flake, there is no going back
I think pipe and snuff is an ideal way to break a cigarette habit. For one, average (?) consumption is 3 to 5 bowls a day. Figuring 4, over an 16 hour stretch, that’s 1 bowl every 4 hours. Cigarette smokers average (?) 1 cigarette every 45 minutes if permitted to do so. I think the longer stretches between pipe smokes helps reduce the overwhelming addiction withdrawal feelings. I know before I stopped* smoking cigarettes I couldn’t make it through a 90 minute movie without discomfort (enough that I wanted the smoke more than I wanted to see the end of the movie). Smoking a pipe, I can go hours with only moderate discomfort. Adding snuff into the mix would likely drop the number of bowls per day without discomfort, and likely even increase satisfaction. It does without a doubt reduce or eliminate cravings between smokes. One negative I see with e-cigs is that they only address the nicotine part of the equation. From my reading there are several physiological factors involved with a tobacco habit. I also credit this is part of the reason for the failure rate of gum, patches, and other pharmaceutical tobacco cessation aids. They simply do not address symptoms well enough to keep people from going back to smoking. * I stopped 3 1/2 years ago cold-turkey from a 2+ pack a day habit. The experience was brutal. Working on my project has me smoking again (my choice), but only a pipe. I won’t touch paper wrapped tobacco ever again.
@xapken that’s a pretty damn high average for a pipe smoker! maybe a retired one… I smoke 1 to 4 bowls per week and as of right now I haven’t had one in at least 3 weeks.
@pike mopers I wouldn’t say 3-5 bowls a day is high at all. I have known plenty of smokers over the years who smoke much more. I don’t smoke as much as I used to these days, but I used to easily get through 5 or six a day on average. Part of it has to do with whether one consumes tobacco in other forms, and also, increasingly, whether one is able to smoke on the job. In the days when one could smoke in the workplace, it would not be uncommon for someone to smoke 6-10 bowls per day.
These might be retirees or maybe just hardcore pipe smokers. http://www.brothersofbriar.com/t8056-how-many-bowls-pipe-tobacco-do-you-get-to-enjoy-per-week As for me, I work at home so as long as my lady-friend is in a good mood I’m allowed to smoke inside.
I used the pipe to wean myself off of cigs and I would smoke 3-5 bowls a day at least before I started using snuff and snus.
Absolutely. I remember guys at work who never had a pipe out of their mouths; in fact I would go as far as saying the old pipe smokers who started in the 50s and 60ds before any health warnings or lawsuits being much the heaviest smokers. Strangely, they often tended to be not really regarded as smokers at all and the pipe was seen as having no health issues at all. How things have changed…
And of course it depends also on the size of the bowl, and the type of tobacco being smoked in it. Someone smoking a ribbon cut mixture in a small-bowled pipe is naturally going to go through more bowls per day than someone smoking a dense flake tobacco in a large bowled pipe would.
I smoke two bowls a day. I also use snus as my main nicotine delivery and snuff takes up the slack. Snus and snuff got me off cigs. If a pipe was my only nicotine source I could see me smoking 6-8 bowls a day.
Have you thought of switching to full time snuff use Mick? Or are you happy enough on that regime? I use every tobacco form I can, but day to day its full time snuffing.
@bipolarbear I dunno about you, but I quit smoking cigs to QUIT SMOKING. Isn’t a pipe still considered smoking? It depends what you’re after. I smoke a pipe ONCE OR TWICE a week. That’s usually on weekends. I use an ecig to help my cravings. I don’t want to get back into that habit. Smoking’s terrible for my lungs and I want to live. lol snuff’s good enough for me.
Another question. Is there a hint of menthol in Dholakia Chakali (Sparrow). Not the blue one but the regular one. Looking at Suffreviews I see no one mentioning this, but I find this one to be similar to Super Cheetak. Both have a strong cooling effect that dissipates quickly, to leave only the tobacco scent just a few seconds later.
I pick up something minty in Sparrow but without the cooling sensation of menthol. Probably spearmint or something along those lines. EDIT: I am thinking of Sparrow Cool… are Sparrow and Sparrow Cool the same?
I never had Sparrow cool, so I can’t compare this to regular Sparrow. Regular Sparrow has a cooling effect that last some 5 seconds. Just like 6 Photo Super Cheetak but to a lesser degree. I can’t see this coming from the tobacco only. But maybe I’m wrong and that’s why I’m asking.
OK now I get it. I did order from Northerner the regular sparrow in the small 5g, disposable bags. When I got the package I did not pay much attention to what I received and pour it immediately in a small snap box. Well in fact I checked back the label and they sent me Sparrow Cool instead. Oh well, at least my nose was not lying to me. @Pike Mopers. I can’t really tell the difference between menthol and mint. I believe this is probably due to a cultural trait, being francophone that learned English only in adulthood. In french there is only one word for everything along the menthol line (aka ‘menthe’). That probably leaded my nose to disregard the differences between the different type of menthol that you make in english (mint, spearmint, peppermint, menthol, etc). Some ethnolinguistic right there!
KebAmp that actualy makes sense. a big part of the giving wines elaborate discriptions is it’s actualy easier to sense something you have a name for. Sparrow cool is definatly mentholated but very lightly almost like a seasoning more then a flavor.
I’m finding medium nic level snuff not really cutting it any more. Any recommendations for higher nic snuffs. I’m not interested in American style snuffs or anything menthol.
@nightcap White Elephant, 6 Photo Cheeta and Dholakia White in that order are the highest nic snuffs that I have had and none have menthol
@nightcap I second those recommendations. Three fantastic snuffs with a surprising amount of variation in flavor and texture. More nicotine than I care to have in me sometimes. Cheeta is one of my favorite snuffs and I only pinch it 3 or 4 times a day due to the extra-high nicotine. However, be aware that if you pick up these white snuffs and use them all day, before too long they won’t cut it either.
Falcon pipes with the aluminum stems. Does the stem help for a cooler smoke? They look cool. I’m tempted to pick one up just for that.
yes it does. They also can have filters. What I found works best is to put a little bit of cotton ball shreds in the depression the bowl screws into. This gives a nice cool smoke even relativily so with gurgely tobaccos. I love my falcon. Got one with a meer lined bowl.
Also Kirstens are cool pipes too. edm
Kirsten’s are cool. A mix of art and engineering.
Is it common for sugars to be used as a sweetener in snuff? Reason I ask, is sugars don’t have much of an odor so I don’t think they’d work well. What could be used for a sweet-ish top note?
@xapken Many floral aromas smell sweet so that might be one source used. I am very curious how Honey Bee is so sweet.
So a while ago I ordered a 25g tub of Kamal from Dave, and I thought the label looked a bit odd. I guess it’s their Indian label on my tub, but I have to ask, is there a Kamal cool? I swear this stuff is just a bit different from the other samples of Kamal I’ve had at various times, in both Indian and our regular packaging. And that difference is there’s a tiny bit of coolness to it just like my Sparrow cool. I like it, but is it just in my head? And if not, was this a fluke, or can this be regularly obtained? Also, I just threw this in here because for some reason the site won’t let me start a new thread…
I have a question: Is their a difference in the method, or ingrediants in the snuff made in India compared with those made in the EU? I now snuff Indian snuffs exclusively, because the EU snuffs would give me a sneezing fit, and they produce a(might be gross here) sticky clear goo in my nose, and that would stop up my nose, sometimes all day long. This happens with Toque and Wilsons, and some others, yet it doesn’t happen with the Indian snuffs(that I have noticed). This made me exchange off all my EU snuffs. I can snuff the 6 and 5 and even Dholakias all day, and they don’t make this mysterious nose glogging sticky goo like the EU snuffs do to me. Maybe it’s just me, but it seems like there must be a difference somewhere.
Their use of slaked lime in some products is the only possibility which occurs to me.
slaked lime is also called pickling lime. Is it used in pickles?
no, vinegar.
Here’s what I buy. http://store.mrswagesstore.com/mrswagpiclim.html
I usually get brown goo.
I hear a bunch about schmalzer but can’t find much on it. How is it different from UK snuff?
Schmalzlers are different because they are sauced before ground up. They also use oil to make it moist. And they are very coarse. They smell of tobacco, maple and dates.
@snuffster, snuff is #2 for me. I don’t think snuff alone could satisfy me. For now I’m happy with the way things are. I may cut out pipe smoking, at least as a daily thing, in the future. Right now I’m just happy to stay off cigs.
What was the question? I would like to smoke some Sir Walter Raleigh. That is what my dad smoked.
@bigmick - sure, its whatever works for you. I also think it has something to do with what you come across first; I feel the same way about snus. I like it but its a distant second place to the powder of the Gods.
Here’s one: does the Zuka snuff company still exits? Their website is defunct, although Snuffstore still has some?
Love the new avatar snuffster. I think they’re defunct. I find with pipe smoking that less is more. Smoking my pipe once a week or less is the way to go for me. If I smoke it regularly I still very much enjoy it but it doesn’t make me feel nearly as relaxed and calm as it does when I wait longer.
thats phtobooth for ya,
awesome. don’t know what you mean but awesome.
on mac pc’s, a mac was my present to myself when i retired; it makes something like uploading a photo so simple even i can do it, i couldnt believe how crap my old microsoft system was in comparison.
Good to hear just watch out for steve jobs he’s the new boogie man.
You lost me there Bob.
oh last year bill gates we the incarnation of corporate evil this year it’s Steve Jobs.
Yeah Gates retired.
Which is proof that if you make something most people need or that improves their lifes you must be evil. Seem slightly backwards. Like all the evil doctors cureing disease and stuff.
I have a question. How many times a day do you snusers use this stuff? I’ve just got 11 packs of Oden’s Extreme portion. I’ve had a piece in for around 3 hours now and it still seems to be working its magic. I like this. How many pieces or portions a day?
snus can last a long time.
especialy strong snus. This has been my experience. That stronger snus don’t nesscarily hit me much harder but they last longer. I can keep an Odens extreme (los) in untill it falls apart with a more tradtional strengthed snus I’ll feel a need for another on much faster.
That’s what I’ve found. Doesn’t hit like a truck but just keeps delivering. I’m going to like this stuff.
Skruf Xtra Sterk is the only proper snus I have ever tried and it lasted easily twice as long as a dip (nicotine-wise). The flavor was a whole lot better, too.
I average about one portion an hour while I’m awake. But that is an average, some snus lasts 2-3 hours and some only 15 minutes. It depends on the snus and what else is going on. Very few snus lasts longer than 1.5 hours for me. I haven’t tried the Extreme yet, but I doubt it’ll be any different. The studies show that the nicotine is mostly gone after 30-45 minutes. It seems non Swedish users tend to leave a portion in much longer than Swedes. Swedes leave a portion for 20-30 minutes.
reminds me of how the not regular dippers would leave the dip in for hours while some how a regular dipper would change their dip every hour or so. Seems to be something with exculsive or near exclusive use of oral tobacco.
I’ll typically keep some for about an hour. After 45 minutes though, you’re really not getting much of anything, nicotine wise. If I come across the link, I’ll post it here, but I remember seeing a study quite often on snuson back in the days of sagedil, where it showed how you would have absorbed just about all the nicotine you’re going to get out of a portion/prilla by the 45 minute mark.
Has anyone seen the ‘Tropical Bob’ youtube vids about saving money on your tobacco costs? He does a couple of good snus articles - one about making your own and one about using snus in e-cigarettes. TB is one of my heros.
- one about making your own and one about using snus in e-cigarettes what that sounds interesting.
If TB is who I am thinking of, a gentleman who shoots talking head vids… Yep, seen him. Great information. One I watched was on dissolvables.
That the one. Just set him going on youtube ansd you get all of his vids one by one. A man after my own heart. If anyone has his email ask to join please.
He has an account here, but haven’t seen him post in maybe a year or more now.
yea TropBob is awesome! Got me into snuff to begin with, used to be on www.e-cigarette-forum.com alot, but hes been inactive since may.
Ever since I was a kid playing in my local bowling league, I’ve loved the smell of rosin. It’s sort of a very sweet pine odor. Has anyone encountered a snuff close to that description?
Tropical Bob is the man! I love his youtube videos, his voice is so dramatic lol it just makes his videos so much better
@Sir_Voe try DeKralingse A/P. Its spruce & pine scented. Also within the last year Bernard reintroduced Fichtennadel, but I can’t speak for it first hand. Its also spruce-pine scented.
Any suggestions on a pipe smokers community site with forum?
Xapken don’t know if your interested, but here is a site I am a member of. http://christianpipesmokers.net/ edm
LOL what pipe smoking has anything to do with Jesus?
Very cool, I’ll look into it.
@KebAMP don’t knock his beliefs. We try to keep it positive here.
I can answer the question. It doesn’t have to have anything to do with Christianity directly, but the fact that the community is of like minded people most definitely does. I’ve been involved in other groups where this has been the case. It’s quite common on the Internet. It’s a social-spiritual blend ((community) where people share a common interest.
@transistor That was not even my intention. Just a question. But anyway I think in a general way to knock ones belief is only positive. Can only lead to 1- strengthened belief or 2- change to a better one
@KebAMP It’s called fellowship.
http://www.christianpaintball.com/discussion/ here’s one about paintball, lol. I have my beliefs and I’m pretty strong in them, Tobacco use by the white man did not happen till after 1492, but I don’t think Jesus was ignorant of it’s use in the future. Even the Pope at the time blessed it’s use. Now back to topic so the thread doesn’t get closed.
@mustangii Agreed. @ moderators, apology for the tangent. No harm done I hope. If there are other forum suggestions, please let me know. Trying to find something with reviews and Q&A.
@KebAmp ok sorry. I just don’t like to see someone ripping on someone’s religion/beliefs. I think it’s great to surround yourself with like-minded people like that
No harm, but no more please.
@Xander Thanks, I’ll look into those two.
This is a long shot question for the history buffs. Is the fermentation process used for cavendish pipe tobacco similar to the fermentation for rappee? Found it. Pardon the post. http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/410/lorillards-paris-rappee-snuff-recipe/p1
How much wood, would a woodchuck…chuck? If a woodchuck, could chuck, wood?
@pot 36.3g I believe
as much wood as a woodchuck, could chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood.
How much fog would a groundhog log if a groundhog could log fog?
Hi all, I’ve been snuffing for a few weeks and find J&H SP No.1 lovely, but when using the “back of hand” technique and also “closing my throat” as some have suggested, some snuff (esp. Jaxons Toffee which is coarser) hits the back of my throat and stings it. Is it normal to always get a little through to the throat?..not using it anymore, sticking to |SP No.1…really lovely. Thanks everyone!
@Kayjay777 Yeah I’d say it’s normal to get some grains in your throat sometimes. Eventually you’ll get to where it doesn’t happen as often. I snuff all day everyday and there’s several times I still get it in my throat- I just get used to it. NOW if you get almost ALL of it straight into your throat, then THERE’S a problem. Try facing down when you take your snuff. Or sniff “from your nose only” There’s several techniques to try. When you take a massive pinch, there’s so much snuff going into your nose at once I think it clumps together and makes it hard for individual grains to go through and into your throat. That’s what I"VE found anyway… But yes, it’s normal to get some in your throat every so often…
Normal, but not ideal. Practice makes perfect. With dryer snuffs such as you mention, the process is more difficult. Jaxons is much friendlier when its moister (fresh). Besides rehydration, you can try to decrease the distance between the nose and snuff when you sniff. If you must snuff from your hand, place your nostil right on top of the pile. Pinching is better, because you can get the tips of your finger and thumb just inside the nostril. In both cases you are reducing airflow and the decreased flow and additional turbulance will prevent the snuff from going too far in. Also practice the throat closing technique even when you are not taking snuff. Just hold your breath and sniff through your nose.
If it makes you feel any better, I went through the throat thing too. It’s gradually tapered off now to just rare mishaps.
Quick Question. I ordered some Cope from the states almost three weeks ago. Are delays like this usual?
Yep, both ways. Longest I had was 12 weeks. I just recently sent someone something that went via Jamaica. After several years of posting, it seems 2-3 weeks is average, give or take. Never had a package go missing as yet, just some long waits. If you got this from the snus site its bog standard.
Thanks, yes, thought so. Snus took a long time but not this long.
Via Jamaica??? As we’d say round here that’s like going to Buxton to get to Matlock. Stefan
With a pint in the old town to boot.
A pint in either Buxton or Matlock, especially Matlock Bath would be nice. Expensive though, very touristy. Stefan
probably makes sense when compared to all packaes going that way. There is a large jamacian population in england and in some parts of the u.s… So it probably took the least fuel to send it that way. Think about it this way how much more fuel does it take to ship one more package on a plane already going that way?
No, it went that way by mistake. I was the recipiant. It has a rubber stamp on it “MISSENT TO JAMAICA” Someone must have just stuck it in the wrong shipping box or bag at some point. Anyway, it must have happend before, otherwise they wouldn’t need to make a stamp! Now, did it return to the UK after that or come straight here?
How come Mr. Snuff no longer sells 250g tubs of FUBAR Grunt? I know this is probably an obvious question with an obvious answer, but I rarely come on here and I buy my snuff in bulk annually, so I’m stocked for the year. I just ran out of it and wanted to get more but alas, the largest size I saw was 50g, so I’ve come here to ask you, o wise Snuffhousers.
I’d send Mr. Snuff a message on here or via the website. I’m sure it’s more of a sold-out and waiting for a refill than not carrying it anymore.
ask mrsnuff as he would know better then any of us.
awesome thread. i have been out of the snuff scene for a while now, and having forgot my password for this site, i haven’t had you guys reminding me how much i like to snuff… I remembered my password in a dream last night, and decided to pop in, say hello, and go buy some snuff. here is my question… what the heck happened to Nicotine Rush? looks like tom is into the ethnobotanical business now? maybe that tomato leaf thread tipped him off to a hidden demographic LoL. thanks in advance guys.
@Wolfwood, New, year plus old now, US laws effectively put NicotineRush out of business, chased Mr.Snuff to the UK and raised shipping costs for snus. That’s the short version anyway. Welcome back.
@wolfwood yeah in otherwords, we have to order overseas now. And they have to order from us. Ridiculous…
WTF… well that is no damn good at all. i remember rumblings about that stuff - talk of “snuff flavored cigars” and all that… gee whiz. thanks for the heads up. guess i’m going to purchase the rest of my pal’s snuff stash. (he has an extensive collection and ended up smoking again.) better not mention this development until after i’ve collected the goods
May I ask who’s been snuffing the longest on here, and what is that person’s all-time favourite? …just asking as interested, being a newbie.
Hmmm would that be- Snuffhead?
Does anyone else think that snuff tastes better outside (or in the fresh air) than it does inside? I personally think you get a better developed flavour and a sharper taste, but is that just me?
@koba22 I think the fresh air totally helps spread the fragrance somehow. I always take some snuff before I go outside or check the mail, etc.
@Transistor lol yes, must be the name “Snuffhead” missed that Just finished my first box…a small J&H Wilson SP No.1…as a newbie, does this mean I’ve lost my “snuff virginity”? hehe…
No more sneezing now…must be becoming a “hardened” user!..Seriously, though glad I joined this forum and now mastering the technique (no more throat burn) ;o)
Some snuffs really come alive in the damp night air for me. The outside air and humidity definitely affect my snuff experiences.
Being outside freshens the scent, I can take a pinch 30 mins, and then when I go outside it will come back.
@wolfwood Its not all bad news since then. We have two new snuffs on the US market that are just starting to show up at US retail locations. Silver Dollar (5 or 6 varieties) and Dark Horse (3 varieties).
Hmm I didn’t hear much about Dark Horse…
Dark Horse is really good. IF you take into consideration that they are very new at making snuff. No fake scents, the menthol is well done, meaning the menthol doesn’t overshadow the tobacco. I’m happy to have another choice in B&M available snuff or I will be if it ever gets to a B&M close to me.
Hi everyone, can I ask how long you should keep the snuff in your nose? I find I have to blow it out after a few minutes…being a newbie, is this normal? Thanks in advance
It depends. If I take a Schmalzler, I cannot hold it very long. But with SPs forinstance sometimes I taker pinch after pinch before I have to blow my nose. It also depends on my personal mood …
@Uwe Ah, yes I understand that - been snuffing Wilson’s Sherry which I understand is a Schmalzer…but with my (so far) favourite - J&H Wilson’s No.1, it stays for ages. Thanks for that.
@ Kayjay777, I’ve been sniffing for well over 30 years. I still can’t keep it in the nose very long before I have to blow it out. Then sometimes it can stay in my nose for ages. Just blow when you have to. By the way WOS Sherry is not a Schmalzer. English snuff is water based, no paraffin, oils of that ilk is allowed into English snuff. Knock on their door, ask to see Squiffy! she may send you packing, or with luck you may get invited to a visit round the mill.
By the way… when you blow your nose you don’t lose all the snuff that is in it. A gentler blow will clear the drip caused leaving those much loved snuff boogers to play with.
Will Mr. Snuff carry american snuffs that are presently only sold in 12 packs? I want to order rooster but not 12 of them.
I think you need to ask him that.
Has the McChrystal SP the same tobacco base as the O&G? I ask because I like SPs because of the Citrus-Bergamont taste and for me the O&G is the best grind for pinching. So if the McC SP would have the same grind as tha O&G, it would be the perfect SP for my daily use…
I’ve never compared them but almost certainly yes. Most, if not all, manufacturers use the same base, or flour, for making whole ranges of snuff. Most of the Toque range is one flour, most of WoS and on. The medium grind, medium moisture snuffs are usually the same base model with flavourings added later.
thanks @snuffster I just sent him an email on his website.
Uwe: I have never had the actual McChrystal’s SP before, but I love there S’Nuff blend which is an SP. I did find to be light and fluffy as O&G is. I think the texture of McChrystal’s snuffs is great too.
Thanks for the informative answers. The problem is, that here in Germany I can buy McC’s SP only in bulk directly from their webshop. I think your advices have convinced me that it’s worth it.
@uew I still have a huge tin of Mcc’s SP and it’s very good. Very underrated. It’s a very fine, subtle, dry sp. I’m sure you’ll like it. Great for an all dayer.
Hello. I have a short question… I love Berwick Brown. Flavor, grind, moisture…it hits all the right notes for me. What should I try that is similar that I may be missing out on? I have been through the entire Toque and Molens range and am in the midst of F&T’s offerings now…trying to decide where to venture next.
SG Kendal Brown Original is (for me) close to Berwick Brown - or should I say Berwick Brown is close to SG Kendal Brown Original?
@SnuffMonkey: try Gawith Hoggarth Scented Kendal Brown.
Snuff Store Attar of Roses has a similar grind and moisture to Berwick Brown but it is currently out of stock.
Anyone knows of another source for O&G extra large tins? Mr Snuff is out and like McChrystal’s site, shipping is a bit high too.
@texpinch try mysmokingshop.co.uk, they’ve usually got them on there.
Koba22, thanks but they stopped shipping to the US.
@texpinch ah right, sorry didn’t realise you were in the US. Does it have to be the extra large? I think Snuff Store carry the large tins, but I don’t know of anywhere else online. Funnily enough my local newsagent has them in large and extra, as well as Hedges.
You are lucky to have a supply close to you!! Cheers!
Uwe: You can order the SP in a different size from the McChrystal’s store. Email them and see what they say. I did that with the Hops blend and they just sent me a sample.
@jazzi_mike: Thanks. I will try
Quick question: How long have snuffs been made as medicated-mentholated?
Since about the early 1900’s, with the introduction of Hedges and Rumney’s and others. The medicated tag started because the first ones were made up as prescritions by doctors (Hedges L260 - 260 was the recipe number in the doctors prescription book) for things like hay-fever. First sales were in Chemist shops (drug stores) and then they developed just as a recognised, standard type.
Great info thank-you! On a trivia note, I’ve discovered something of a tobacco anomaly. Menthol is common in snuff, common in cigarettes, and almost non-existent in pipe tobacco. I found only one major brand is strong menthol with a few using a touch to spike up the strength of mint flavors. Odd how parallel products develop differently. Thanks again.
Menthol works in snuff & cigarettes, but try putting a little in pipe tobacco and smoke it in a pipe, It tasts terrible.
@Snuffhead *grin* So I’ve heard. I might try with an old cob that’s near passing. No way I’d ghost the falcon.
Hedges was originally from the 1800’s though wasn’t it?
Hedges aquired the recipe in 1916 and marketed it from then in and around Birmingham. The formula was changed slightly over the years.
Menthol is also used in cooking some Indian dishes.
Short question about using the forum. Please let me know if there is a thread for this, and Ill move there! In many forums you can sort the discussions in various ways (most recent, alphabetically, etc.) In particular, I like to sort the threads according to the number of comments/replies. That way I quickly find a lot of the ‘good stuff’ with a fun debate or two. Can we do that here? I read that the search function is problematic (but google advanced is a fine work around). Have other host options been considered? I imagine that funding is an issue. Sorry if this has been covered 100 times… if im pointed to the thread ill be off!
@Gsnuff: No, we’re pretty bare bones here. Our original forum transitioned to Vanilla, a few months ago. As most discusons were not beng assigned categories, it didn’t seem prudent to have such features. Shortly after we transferred to this forum style, we also transferred ownership. Our previous owemer left us with this. So this is what is going to be the format for the time being. As you have discovered, the best way to research old threads is through a Google search. The only categories we currently have are General, FAQ, and Reviews. Pretty much everything that can ever be talked about is in “General” somewhere. FAQ is for you to read, but mostly is a work in progress by various contributing members. Reviews, are for everyone to read and write. You can start new threads there and the mods will sort it out. If you have a question, and the Google workaround search is no help, just post it. Otherwise just browse old threads untl you are content. There is a lot of good reading in them. If you post in them, they will bump to the top of the General list.
Thanks Xander!
As Xander says, the site is as you see it. Without a major overhaul - which I don’t plan on doing - we are stuck with the functionality that we have.
I like it this way actually.
Why are the whites white (ex. D.White)? I thought maybe they cut it with ash to freebase the nic but when I added a drop of vinegar I didnt even get a fizzle. I expected to see some CO2 like when you add vinegar to B.soda. Just curious what accounts for the nic hit the pain and the color. Thought they might be related.
@Gsnuff I can’t speak for the color, but the nic hit is due to the grind. Dholakia White is apparantly the finest grind of all known snuffs. Fine grind equals quick nicotine dispertion due to high surface area. Also most Indian snuffs pH balance thier alkalinity with slaked lime (which I think is calcium carbonate). How that reacts with vinegar (acid) is something I have not tried. But probabaly simlar to a soda (sodium compound).
“Dholakia White is apparantly the finest grind of all known snuffs” You clearly have never had White Elephant, the stuff makes DW look like NTSU
@Xander @n9inchnails Thanks for the info/input! The grind/nic connection resonates for me. I have gravitated to a mixture of quit/scotch/D.white that fits my own taste for flavor and nic. I take my snuff pretty deep into the sinuses (for the nic spike) which makes it impossible (dangerous?) to use a staight white. I tried it once when I got my first D.white… thought I did actual tissue damage. … and I will get my first white elephant soon once I hit the post office to complete a trade!
I smoke about 8 - 10 bowls a day, and I’m not allowed to smoke in the warehouse I work in either although I do make the occasional sneak out to my car move. But as soon as I get home and get some brews in, I spend half the rest of my night smoking the pipe AND snuffing. And we should all keep in mind smoking a bowl has to mean all the way to the heel not just halfway then tapping out the rest, THATS how you develop goo in the bottom of your bowl.
Sometimes more than that on the weekends.
I heard a rumour that indian white snuff is made with rustica, not sure if that’s true, but it makes senses as I’ve tried a coarse ground snuff of rustica and the buzz was similar to the cheeta. Anyone who actualy knows should answer this question for us though. I could be wrong.
Gsnuff: deliberatley forcing snuff into the sinuses does not sound like a smart thing to do. You’re not going to get any more out of it that way. More pain does not equate to more nicotine rush. 9IN, yes, you are correct. Though I was aware of it, I had forgotten that fact.
@Xander Not forcing of course. Just blowing it up in that direction. As for the nic absorption, I find the absorption in the the my upper nasal passages to be an order of magnitude higher than anything in lower nostrols. Is sticking tobacco in your upper nose smarter than sticking it in your lower nose? In my case yes. The nic rush is unmistakeable. After 20 years of Coppenhagen dip I never thought there was a more efficient delivery system on the market, but I was wrong. You just have to get it high up there. BTW, the nic-rush is separate from the eventual slow absorption which I imagine you can achieve anywhere in your nose. Depends what you are looking for. Some people just like the smell and that’s great!
@Gsnuff Do you get nasal drip into the throat from that? I have on a couple occasions and found it sort of disagreeable.
@xapken - Yes … I do. I admit that its not the peak of the snuff experience. Truth is that I don’t mind the drip so much but it really does worsen some heart burn issues.
@bob said 'I heard a rumour that indian white snuff is made with rustica, not sure if that’s true, but it makes senses as I’ve tried a coarse ground snuff of rustica and the buzz was similar to the cheeta. Anyone who actualy knows should answer this question for us though. I could be wrong. ’ My money is on Rutica, and a pumped PH. To examine the PH idea I ran a quick experiment: I dipped PH sticks into D.white and a US dry scotch (very fine ground). After 15 seconds there was clear indication that the PH was higher for D.white (see the greener PH stick below). The actual PH levels from these sticks are not informative since they were designed for saliva, not powder. An alternative explanation for the difference in color could be that they have the SAME PH but different grinds so that the D.white registers faster on the dip stick. Still, while more suggestive than conclusive I thought it was interesting.
I’ve had a painful spot in my nose for about a week. I was digging around up there and realized it was a scab. Has anyone else experienced something like this? I have pain every time I blow my nose and I just can’t seem to stop taking snuff for a few days to let it heal over.
never had it but I can imagine it would be both frustrating and concerning. Going without snuff for a week would certainly be very difficult. Thats not a very attractive option at all. I think I might be concerned about having damaged tissue on a mucous membrane that is constantly stimulated and not allowed to heal. Sounds like a tough choice and Im not sure what I would do myself. If you DO decide to give it a break you might consider a temporary nic replacement like gum, lozenges or patch. Something you will be happy to leave behind you in a week. As for the ‘habit’ you might try some other nasal stimulant as a security blanket. Something like those menthol inhalers for when you get a cold. You stick it in a nostril and take a wiff. Very refreshing. None of these suggestions would make the week easy … but it would suck much less.
be more carefull in your digging. That can cause scabs.
Back to the questions: what’s the most cost effective way of getting your snus to the UK. It now comes from Sweden with a heavy sales tax and a heavy tobacco tax. I don’t think these applied when it was shipped from the States.
@petersuki, I’d suggest flying to Sweden and bringing it back with you. From what I heard airfare is pretty inexpensive round trip . I have no idea how high the tax is getting it shipped to you, so it might save you a lot picking it up in person. More so if you buy 6 months worth at a time.
Sores and scabs happen, especially until you have found a comfortable nose blowng rythim. The up side is that one nostril is still good. Clean the one nostril and then leave it alone for a few days. No need to go without snuff entirely. You can snuff through one nosril. It seems a bit weird but its better than no snuff. I had to do this a few times. Be careful when blowng - pinch off the healing side so as not to disturb the natural healing process. Snus helped me with the nicotine shortfall, if you have such.
I checked it out. It pays to shop around.
Update on my nose scab: I just ignored it. Kept on snuffing, kept on blowing, and it went away after about a week. I would recommend not taking snuff instead of just pretending it’s not there.
Mike - good to hear. Stay well and scabless.
Surely somebody knows something about French snuff? There MUST be French snuff out there somewhere?
@petersuki I think they just sneak into England and buy from them
PhilipS has written quite extensively about french snuff on this forum. Search Morlaix, and I believe you will find some of these posts. The short answer is that the french used to produce quite good snuff, but have not done so in about 30 years.
None at all. I find that hard to believe. But if they do make it somewhere, they are very quiet about it.
A wee query: I’m looking for some tips on how best to use the really finely-ground SPs, toasts, etc. They cause me to *cough* rather than sneeze because some of the snuff ends up in my lungs and throat rather than in my nose - no matter how gently I sniff. Any advice will be gratefully received. I’m sure this question has been asked dozens of times before, but I’m struggling to find suggestions via the search facility.
practice. And there are lots of hints all over. The two that work for me are one stuff it into the nose then breath out the excess. The other is pinch lightly breath in for a fraction of a second go to other nostril repeat untill happy.
Option 1: APPLIED PHYSICS: Force is a function of the square of the distance. i.e.; Hold your pinch further away from your nostril. Experiment until you have the correct distance. It’s easier to remember how far your pinch was from your nose than the exact force with which you inhaled. Option 2: Inhale with less force. Option 3: Just do a VERY short little sniff with the intent that the AIR (never mind the snuff) will not get any further than your sinuses.
Thanks for the encouragement, fellas
Option 5: Lung it and like it!
It is made with Rustica. (Btw, trying to get an enormous ‘buzz’ from snuff has nothing to do with traditional snuff taking which is what this site deals with - I think Erowid is a better source for anyone who wants to get high on nicotine, IMHO. Of course, we all enjoy snuff in our own way so don’t regard this as in any way judgemental.)
Brigstowe Another tip you may wish to consider, is to pinch and slightly roll the tobacco, QUITE HARD, between the fingers. This way the finest tobacco can be made into a ‘clump’ which will not usually get past the sinuses.
@Juxtaposer LMAO at Option 5
“PhilipS has written quite extensively about french snuff on this forum. Search Morlaix, and I believe you will find some of these posts. The short answer is that the french used to produce quite good snuff, but have not done so in about 30 years.” You are right. Snuff manufacture in France was an imperial and later a national monopoly. The unusual array of steam powered mills at the royal factory at the port of Morlaix in Brittany provided snuff for France and her overseas market. By comparison the snuff manufacturers in Sheffield and Kendal were and still are very, very small. Until quite recently Morlaix snuff could be bought all over France, sold in large waxed paper packets. By the early 1980s I couldn’t find snuff anywhere - not even in Paris. When the state monopoly folded in 1982 all French snuff manufacture (to the best of my knowledge) was lost. The last employees at Morlaix were cigar makers. They wrapped their last cigars in 2004. The whole impressive complex is now classed as an historic monument and is well worth visiting. The snuff from Morlaix that I enjoyed was made using dark leaf fire-cured tobacco fermented in brine. Although the colour and texture of London Brown by Samuel Gawith of Kendal is different to Morlaix the flavour is almost identical. It recalls carefree days in Provence where I first became acquainted with Gallic snuff - vivid colours, strong sunshine, strong cigars, olives and anchovies and large quantities of red wine. So much nicer than tepid tea, rotten keg ale, pie and chips and cheap No.6 fags in 1960s washed out Britain. :>)
I’m interested to know. Does the defunct state monopoly mean that it is in some way unlawful to produce snuff commercially in France? Two Questions: Has anyone tried one of those Chinese made pipes which are are all over EBay like a cheap suit? Has anyone tried the Freibourg and Treyer virgina that was Russell’s favourite pipe baccy ?