i was just told by my supplier that ALL poschl snuffs are being DISCONTINUED!! this is an outrage! it doesn’t make any sense! this is one of the largest and most established snuff producers in the whole freaking world! the reason i was given is that the company (poschl) refuses to list the ingredients on the back of their containers, and this is a violation of some kind of law. what the hell is going on here?! i’ve never even heard of any such law. somebody please tell me that i was horribly misinformed, and it’s all just a nightmare i will soon wake up from. this is absolutely absurd. why would poschl cut off millions of dollars of it’s own income just because it doesn’t want to list ingredients? if this information is untrue, i will try to sue this supplier of mine for emotional distress! if it is true… i may just shoot myself in the face with a shotgun! HELP!!
All in three letters… F D A.
All Poschl’s American line is being discontinued. From what I’ve read. The ones for the German/EU market should not be affected.
That’s a bit of a bugger. I feel sorry for you folks in the US at the moment.
I wouldn’t be too upset just yet. I’m sure there are ways around yet more of america’s bullshit. lol
Pöschl is required to have their ingedients list approved by the FDA. Note: there is no requirement for it to be listed on the packaging, only that they must submit an ingredient list for approval. Since they already do this in Germany, it should not be an issue. If these rumors are true and they are refusing to comply with US law, but are already obeying a similar law in Germany then I am left scratching my head. I would conclude that there is something in their snuffs that would not get approved by our law and they know it. Perhaps something harmful? I know Pöschl snuffs are harmful to me, and to snuff’s overall reputation, so good riddence to them.
maybe they think the flavor ban applies to snuff as well as cigarettes. Who knows dumber things have shaped the world before and will again.
and the FDA has no problem clearing 4000 ingredients in cigarettes
@ that’s terrible Xander! u may not like poschl snuffs, but how can u say it’s so bad it hurts snuff’s overall reputation? they are obviously doing something right… they’ve been in business since 1902, and currently supply over 50% of the world market for snuff. while i’d agree some of their varieties are yuk, there are over 30 different types to chose from… some of which are outstanding.
@timetravler: 1902 makes them a relative youngster in the snuff business. Supplying over 50% of the market only proves they are good at marketing. In fact since they have nearly a monopoly in places, many a newcomer to snuff might be curious as to what snuff is all about, try Pöschl becuase its all the store carries, and hate it and think that’s all that snuff is. If that’s all there was available, I would never have taken to snuff at all. I know there are plenty of other people around here that feel the same way. Their varieties are not really varieites. They all have extreme doses of menthol, most have artificial sweet fruity flavorings, and all have an unpleasant paraffin base that, at least for me, causes gagging, as it slips its way down the throat. At best some of them are tolerable. Yes, I know that last part is just my opinion. I will admit that their 4 schmalzlers are excellent, but sadly they’ve never tried to market them internationally. Never fear though, you’ll be able to get as much as you like from international vendors for as long as you like, probably about half the price they cost in a shop too.
Poschl is very popular, I believe. I like their snuffs.
Regardless of whether Poschl is the bane of the devil or the dust of Angels…this is a very strange development (if in fact it is the case). Why relinquish your USA market over something you have already done in Germany? And as far as having some hidden toxin…I would imagine that anything that drastic would be that drastic in Germany as well. None of this makes much sense
Snuff (and all tobacco products, that is) are under the German Food Law, which is amongst the strictest in the world (yes, this unfortunately means no scottish Haggis and french fresh milk products allowed here…). There are many tobacco products not allowed here, therefore (Shisha tobacco with too high moisture, US Chew, some pipe tobaccos with ingredients not allowed here, like the old Captain Black for instance). So, as the Pöschl´s are perfectly legal in Germany, it just can´t be a reason of what´s inside. I can only speculate, but 2 reasons seem likely: 1. In Germany the products are constantly monitored by federal institutes and the list of ingredients must be supplied. But you don´t have to state the amounts of the various ingredients. As the US government has become a bit greedy in the near past about information, I presume they wanted a far deeper insight than Pöschl wanted to deliver. 2. We´re not talking about a million Dollar market for Pöschl in the USA. Far from it. Still, you need employees in exports department dealing this foreign market. In short: big effort, little profit. And the policy is just too shady to be predictable. After all, they might ban all tobacco products in the USA in the near future, or “only” burden the companies more and more. I guess, it´s just not worth the effort.
Red Star, have a look here at the ingredients of Gletscherprise: [url=http://service.ble.de/tabakerzeugnisse/index2.php?detail\_id=101357&site\_key=153]http://service.ble.de/tabakerzeugnisse/index2.php?detail\_id=101357&site\_key=153[/url]. All ingredients are stated along with the amount. It’s just the same as with all other products in the file.
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Silica and Ammonium Hydroxide… yum.
@ Xander, while all this is true… the same could easily be said about the dry toasts and most certainly the wonderful American scotches. these have a tendency to make newbies and first timers feel as if they have been bitch slapped in the nose by mike tyson. on the contrary, i would say that poschl’s snuffs are excellent for beginners and as an “introductory” snuff to the uninitiated. IMO it doesn’t matter how good a company markets something… there’s no way they are going to completely corner the world market unless they provide a quality product that is widely liked by the consumer. what i’d like to know is, how do i order a few tins of snuff from a foreign dealer without breaking the bank and getting screwed with shipping charges? it’s already bad enough with the pact act and all that jazz. unfortunately for me, online is the only place i am able to find snuff in any variety. which is odd to me since i live in one of the most internationally diverse cities in the world. one would think in a town of over 6 million people w/ one of the worlds largest international shipping ports, that you could find at least one tobacco shop with a decent snuff selection. ?? it’s beginning to seem like almost nothing makes sense in the world of snuff (and tobacco in general) anymore. %&^$#@*! im gonna go console myself with a couple of blasts of Tube Rose. (i’ve locked my 3 remaining tins of poschl’s in the safe, and i’m so frazzled right now i can’t remember the combination.)
When I was a newbie I bypassed Poschl and went straight for Toque Quit and F&T HDT. I preferred the biatch slap/blow my head off types. I’m sorry, but I would have laughed at Poschl, I was in it for the “N”! I’m only sorry it took me a year and a half to try the American Scotches. I do like a bit of Gawith Apricot or Ozona Raspberry every now and again.
As I suspected, Gletscherprise is a totally wholesome snuff, full of lovely wholesome ingredients. Yummy.