I’ve just now opened one of my new SG tins, Lavender Dark, wow this snuff is a whole new experience in the tins. I can’t wait to buy all of my other favorites in the tins. So fresh, the moisture is superb as is the flavor. SG can’t be beat when it’s in these tins! You can get them at www.mrsnuff.com Thanks to Dave for taking the time to get these!

Glad to hear that snuffers may again sample Kendal snuff in the condition it is meant to be in. I hope others will continue their war against that fearsome slayer of snuff - the deadly tap-box.

"…that fearsome slayer of snuff - the deadly tap-box. " Great line.

@PhilipS: Not sure if you are a fan of Lavender Dark, but I think it just edged out London Brown on my Sam Gawith list. Good stuff.

It must be very good to edge out London Brown! Is it very ‘lavendery’ or just mildly so? And is the grind about like London Brown’s?

@csstokes4 I’m due to order my usual bulk purchase again soon, so I’ll throw in a vacuum-sealed tin of Lavender Dark for good measure. I don’t believe I’ve ever tried it.

It is very mild, but it still has the floral tones without being perfumy or cloying. Wonderful is the best word I can think of. It is coarse and black with a mild lavender scent that settles into an almost sweet aroma.

I got the London Brown in the 20g and it is a real pleasure. Not like the gravel that came out of the tap box.

Sounds good. Have you had the peppermint one? Normally I don’t care for the minty stuff, but I like the Molens Peppermint.

I was going to order the Peppermint, but I decided against it. Next time.

Hopefully, there will always be a next time.

Hopefully The Princes Dark is also rather good. So glad that Sam Gawith opened their eyes to the horrors of tap boxes.

Must admit I’m little disappointed that everyone can get those tins now, for some time we dubliners had the privilege! They’re best containers around there, though.

I’ve heard that Sam Gawith was very proud of their new ‘Tap Box’ machines. What are they going to do with them now? Maybe they’ll sell them off to Roderick!

“Machine”. Singular. There is/was only one at the factory that I saw.

I’m fine with them selling their dry snuffs in tap boxes, but a snuff like Lavender Dark or London Brown has no business being in a tap box.

They could sell it to Bernard.

Speaking of Bernard tap boxes, I have a number of Jubilaums, Zwiefacher, and Amostrinha in baggies that are inside one of those giant, creative Ball mason jars. Does anyone know what I should expect as far as shelf-life? I’m thinking several years for them to still be in good shape. I snuffed from other Bernard tapboxes all last winter. And throughout for several months, they were as (seemingly) nearly as fresh as when first opened.

Many (if not most) of the Bernards will last a long time. They use mineral oil as a moisturizer, compared to water used in British snuffs.

That’s what I was thinking when I stocked up like that. Same with the Poschls. But I’ve noticed as well-kept as I have had them, the Schmalzlers (A, D, Perlesreuter) have dried considerably. It seems like maybe more like oil AND water for those. I’ve used them dry and have rehydrated. Different rehydrated but still pretty good. Sometimes seem better. I think it brings out nore of the maple in a couple of them.

According to the German government health site, they have oil and water, so the water will go first. Keeping them sealed in baggies in jars is a good idea. I have a few in foil packs also in baggies. The big bags of Pöschl schmalzlers I have decanted into tightly sealed jars. I’m hoping everything stays fresh. Bernard Feinster Kownoer is of special note, as it has no oil, only water. Its really hurt by the tap box, and I’m sad to say mine has gone dry.

I have Poschl big bags in tightly sealed jars, but still in the original bags and inside baggies. bags, bags, bags, bags.

I repackage the Poschl schmalzlers in 125 ml Nalgene bottles. Then just fill a wood snuffbox with a days supply. They seem to hold up pretty well that way.

i agree i only got two tins with my last order to check them out ( London Brown and SP Scotch) and the quality is far superior to any SG tap out box i had so far… London Brown its just amazing!.. the flavor reminds me somewhat of the smokiness of latakia and other orientals actually in my nose resembles a little bit the smell of a fresh open squadron leader tin; idk i just had a pinch so far but i can definitely see this one becoming one of my favorites … now i’m off to try the SP Scotch…

I still have a few sam gawiths in the old tins with the yellow labels. I think they then started with the tap boxes and are now going back to tins with different labels?

These are actually large vacuum tins, about 25g.

Patrick, those tins must be quiet old. From the yellow labels they then used magenta for a few years, then the tap box’s. The 25g new vacuum tin of London Brown I just purchased has the same size magenta label as them 10g tins.

@cstokes4- Guess I’m a bit confused. The old yellow label tins I have are like the wilsons tins. I also have newer maroon labeled tins from them but the tin was still the same. What makes these a vacuum tin? And are they tin or plastic? thanks

They are tin and have a seal on the inside like F&T does and are vacuum packed like pipe tobacco tins are. You use a pound coin or some large coin to open them.

Have a look at my blog entry. You can see that the 25g tin is rather different to the old 10g tins, in design as well as size. They are tin (well, coated steel), have a rubber seal and are vacuum packed, something which could not be done with the 10g tins.

Yes those vacuum-sealed tins are incredibly good, preserving Kendal-type snuffs like they ought to be. Those two medicated varieties, which have been available in the Second City of Empire before colonies, have extremely good tobacco bases, no matter how much they’re scented/flavoured, you still get it.

Just got a mail from ‘My smoking shop’ to confirm they are getting a new delivery of vacuum sealed Sam Gawiths in January.

@ermtony - your web site is excellent. First I have seen of it. Keep up the good work.

The vacuum-sealed tins are very stout and are of excellent quality. The contents are the same standard as expected when buying by the pound in weight. Although Sam Gawith produce every snuff in their range in these tins they are, I understand, only distributed in packs of thirty. Some distributors are wary about ordering thirty tins at a time in case they don’t sell. You are unlikely therefore to find very many examples in tins. (BTW - If a UK manufacturer like SG had half the business acumen and common sense of manufacturers in the USA they would do the obvious and make them available in smaller packs or in the desired quantity. However, Samuel Gawith, being British, stubbornly stick to thirty tins and sales be damned.)

Yes, but they broke out of that British stuborness and thought they were being new and innovative (and very trendy) by putting their snuff in tap boxes. I think they realized their mistake and are perhaps kicking themselves for breaking with tradition.

@Xander - You are too kind. I’ve lived in Germany and Switzerland. Also, despite their vast size, I probably know Arizona, New Mexico and northern California better than Britain. Excepting the indigenous peoples of NM, most folk in these places would stage a revolution in Britain if they lived here. How Britons put up with shoddy service, sub-standard goods, stubborn inadaptability, queues, atrocious government, creaking institutions, general incompetence and bad weather is unfathomable. Only in snuff, ale, cider, perry, confectionary, pastries, preserves and pre-1919 history is Britain truly competitive. That’s not much for a former super-power and the nation that was once the workshop of the world. The wonder is that in British v European or British v American online jousting (of which I’m a veteran) the British always have the upper hand. Most foreigners, however, seem to love the place and people so my bias may be based to some degree on the ‘grass is greener on the other side’ syndrome. It’s certainly a fairly effortless, relaxed ship we cruise here in the UK - even if the ship is old-fashioned and leaking at the seams.

That’s quite amusing, and I agree much is a matter of perspective. Naturally, all of those things can be changed (except the weather) if the will is there. It occured to me some time ago that Britain by-and-large has escaped a proper revolution (Cromwell’s period notwithstanding) that nearly every other nation has. Its probably the world’d oldest uninterrupted government. In some ways that is good, and means that the people were not suffering enough to need it, and settle for slow and gradual adaptation. Though as you say there are plenty of lingering side effects. We have queues here too, but we call them “lines” for some odd reason.

The world’s oldest uninterrupted government is on the Isle of Man, whose only problem from being a totally sovereign country is that it is crown land, ie. the Queen owns it. Stefan

Yeah, I was not considering non-independent countries. Gyn chengey, gyn cheer!

PhilpS “Only in snuff, ale, cider, perry, confectionary, pastries, preserves and pre-1919 history is Britain truly competitive.” I think you have your answer to how brits put up with other pains in their asses.

Sinclair computer was good in the day.

Don’t forget Dunhill pipes and tobaccos. The best in the world. Also another brand of English pipe which I will not mention now because they are rare and I am saving for a particular one and if I brag on it someone may grab it before I can.

English tobacco in general (except cigars of course) are the best in the world IMHO.

“It occured to me some time ago that Britain by-and-large has escaped a proper revolution (Cromwell’s period notwithstanding) that nearly every other nation has. Its probably the world’d oldest uninterrupted government. In some ways that is good, and means that the people were not suffering enough to need it, and settle for slow and gradual adaptation. Though as you say there are plenty of lingering side effects.” @Xander - It’s a pity that gradual adaptation in Britain is slow enough to be overtaken by a stationary object, but yes, Britain has had a fairly unexciting time for nearly 180 years. After the Restoration the closest Britain came to genuine revolution were the turbulent years prior to the Reform Act of 1832* - including the attempted murder of the Prime Minister and his entire cabinet in revenge for the Peterloo Massacre. Like Guy Fawkes and Co. the conspirators were condemned to a traitor’s death, to be carried out on May Day. Sentence was partially complied with by the hangman with the aid of a scalpel-wielding medical student. ************************************************* * If you are interested, this is why revolution was brewing and how it was averted: Voting in county constituencies and boroughs had been revised in England in the 15th century and, by the standards of the day, were reasonably fair. By the 19th century the ancient forty-shilling-freehold rule for voting eligibility, which had never been adjusted for inflation, should have increased the electorate, but many of the old constituencies had become either uninhabited or only had electorates numbering a dozen or so people. They became known as Rotten Boroughs. Uninhabited Old Sarum in Wiltshire (the most rotten of the Rotten Boroughs) still managed to ‘elect’ two Members of Parliament at each General Election via several absentee landowners. Meanwhile the teeming millions in the new industrialised cities like Leeds or Manchester were not included in the old system of constituencies or boroughs, and consequently had no parliamentary representation whatsoever. Despite likely revolution, the House of Lords repeatedly rejected the new Reform Bill from the House of Commons. William IV (terrified by the French experience of revolution) finally used his Royal Prerogative to create scores of Lords from the pro-reform Whig Party to cancel out Tory majority in the House of Lords. The bill then became law and revolution averted. This was one of the rare occasions where a constitutional monarch, through fear, has directly interfered in parliamentary affairs.

Bob, discreet fornication helps as well, but your observation is spot on. Without these little perks life wouldn’t be worth living. They are indeed the sole reason why I now live in the UK and soldier on without complaint.

Back to the tins: they are great for re-use and I just filled one with bulk Best SP. They don’t look so good as F&T tins though.

I thought so.

dupe

Golden Glow. Now, is Gold Mull one and the same as Golden Glow?

No, they are definitely different.

Thanks, Tony!. I knew I should have consulted your site first to see the difference (and it appears quite different!). The only bulk sample of SG I received in trade was Apple a while back and it sure was nice. I guess that would be my vote then, for what it’s worth. Thanks, Dave.

I haven’t tried any of the Sam G vacuum tins yet, but I plan to. So anything you choose to add, Dave, will only mean I’ll have a harder (but nonetheless pleasant) time making up my mind. (lol) Can’t be helped – that’s what I get for entering this world while the moon was in Libra.

I second the Golden Glow for the vacuum tin. I’d also like Black Coffee and some more menthols, maybe Sam’s Own?

I second Black Coffee.

Golden Glow and Yellow crest please.

Yellow Crest Yellow Crest Scented Blue Crest Blue Crest Scented Bouquet

I’d second or third the above. I’d also add Red Crest, plain. Not so favourably reviewed. I’ve just taken a slightly rehydrated pinch. Very nice in my view.

Irish D original

SG Apple…there …that’s TWO votes for Apple. Thankyou,Dave

Cob Dark Princes Gold (listed on SG’s site as Princes Light) Irish D Original

Irish D Original

Cob Dark and Gold Princes Gold

yellow crest

If it can be arranged, Mimosa and Ma’s Ruin. Both are delicious, and if you can get them in 25g tubs, you’ve got an order from me as soon as I can afford it.

Honey

London Brown

Mimosa and Ma’s Ruin. Curious to see a fave of mine, mentholene in the tins as well.

Special M

Dave, SG Vanilla!!!

CCC

Oh yeah, CCC! (please someone tell me what the initials stand for)

Alex, just google it and you’l be no wiser, LOL!

Yeah, I tried. I thought I read once that it was cinnamon crumbs of comfort, or clove crumbs of comfort, or some such. Maybe I should just ask Samuel Gawith. Too bad they don’t like to answer emails nicely. I asked once if Princes Gold and Princes Light were one and the same. They said, “yes, that is correct.” and nothing more.

I’d like to see X Blend; I’ve never got around to trying it, and would like to try it in tip top condition when I make my next order.

If you google CCC all you’ll get is County Cricket Club lol. Stefan

lol, yeah, no help!

HONEY!!!

The only thing I know about CCC is that it is good. Others I would like to see are White Label and Cuckoo.

Blue Crest, SP No. 1 HM

Well, on the upside, once I see Mimosa and Ma’s Ruin in, I’m planning on ordering two or three tins of each, as soon as I can afford it. Probably wind up adding several others on my “to try” list as well, and spend way more than I first intended to.

I see a T.A.D. coming on!

Ma’s Ruin rocks! Can’t wait to get my hands on some SG Vanilla again, either. It’s been too long already.

@mr.snuff Thanks Dave!

Hope irish D original is still produced, it seems kind of disappeared.

Thanks, mrsnuff!! i’ve been wanting to try some fresh, moist London Brown!