I have a tin of drum and a tin of kite. would either of these make a decent snuff? edm

it will make a snuff that tastes a lot like how it smells RYO generally doesn’t smell that great. it’ll give you nicotine if you need it and you’re out of snuff and you might be able to make a decent flavored snuff. my experience is that it requires a good-smelling pipe tobacco to make a good plain snuff.

hmm, I have some dry MacBaren Virginia Flake, may have to grind that up. edm

Oddly drum makes what I consider a terrible snuff. Too smokey and not in a good way but in a they set fire to the darn house kind of way, it seems very artifical.

I personally quite like the smell of “Drum” powder, toast taste but does not bite. I call it “the drummer”

Pike Mopers, I agree pipe tobacco makes some good snuff. Funny thing about it is that tobacco which is very strong in the pipe does not make a strong snuff. I once used Springbok tobacco, which is awefully strong in a pipe, to make snuff. The snuff was delicious and VERY mild!

From what I’ve read there are 2 different factories making Drum and not the same way. Don’t know details.

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the original co stopped production and another picked it up under liecence. edm

Experimenting with a RYO having a casing with a plum-raisin note very similar to Marlboro and a vague hint of cocoa powder. If using this for snuff, would it be possible to flavor over the top of this casing?

i tried flavoring some snuff with lemon extract, orange extract, and vanilla extract. I wouldn’t recommend it.

@Pike Mopers I agree. Tried the vanilla tonight. Added 1.5 tsp extract to a 50g batch’s second grinder pass. It smelled strongly of the alcohol even after grinding. Spread it out on a paper plate and into the microwave on medium power. That dried out the alcohol nicely and left the room smelling like cookies baking. End result is at best not very nice. I think I cooked out all the vanilla when I dried it. All I get now is the taste of burnt chocolate.

I think you should get some vanilla beans and grind them, maybe that would work out better. edm

there’s also been some threads that discuss putting a flavoring in a container with the snuff but not touching. like, an open tin of snuff next to a pile of whatever. I remember something about scotch alcohol being a flavoring with this method. I’m assuming it also works well with vanilla beans or high quality coffee beans (none of that folger’s crap… some gourmet stuff!).

I did figure out one of my mistakes. Absorption of flavors takes a while and one reference talks about steaming the tobacco first to open up the porous nature to accept flavors. I have food grade flavor concentrates here from another project. Second try (wild cherry) worked much better. Damp it reminds me of dipping tobacco. Not sure how it will be dry.

well I ground up the Virginia flake up. At 1st had no flavor at all. I didn’t do the salt treatment, But I added a tsp of Dholakia White. And man did it bring out the flavor of the Virginia. must be the salt in the white? edm

I’ll try the salt. That was mentioned elsewhere also. Any info on sugar as an ingredient? I’m finding tobacco really soaks up flavor well; to the point where it takes quite a bit of flavor to get any impact. I’m using a powdered flavor concentrate with citric acid, another acid (malic?), red food color and artificial cherry flavor. To the sniff the aroma is mild and clearly cherry (smells like the inside of chocolate covered cherries but rather tart). That’s why I ask about the sugar. To the taste, the snuff is very cherry but really tart, almost like sour cherry sweet-tarts. I know sugar to the tongue is sweet, but not sure about the nose. I’d prefer to use powdered sugar. I’m not sure how the nose would react to the sugar alcohols like Xylitol etc. Sounds nasty, might burn like crazy. Thanks again for the suggestion. Edit: what’s the Dholakia White like? … Sugar was a disaster. Process went like: 1. dry 2. add ingredients to grinder 3. grind 4. mess - something weird happened, grind didn’t stay dry. No clue where moisture came from. Everything is now sticky. 5. big bowl, add water and blend. Mixture is now like a thick paste 6. spread on sheet, into dryer End result? clumps of cherry flavored tobacco cookies. Even after another pass through the grinder, useless.

@Snuffgrinder - You ever encounter any Y1 tobacco? Interesting stuff.

That is exactly what they did! It is a Frankenstein tobacco. Engineered in California. Twice the nicotine, same tars, high sugar content. I spent days looking into it. Perfect snuff tobacco. Seeds are a rumor, it was originally developed as a proprietary sterile plant! I have a Kilogram sample sent to me, I am very excited to work this one up! Worth a wiki search for Y1. Very interesting history! I spent an entire day reading the Tobacco industry internal reports on research results. Smokers preferred it in stronger brands. This is the tobacco that put Kessler on the warpath at the FDA. The Y2 was a failure, smelled like old socks. Spanish jewel is strong as hell and smells like old socks! That just leaps out at me!

@Whalen Ever play with Connecticut “shade leaf” used for cigar wrappers and filler? I used to live in Pennsylvania not far from Amish country. The CT leaf reminds me of the smell when PA leaf was hung out in the barns. You could smell it a half mile away.

I have some shade leaf and looked into growing some, the cigar is so pronounced. The history of shade leaf is a good read. I have readied my crop for this year but did not include this one.