I’m putting together a small piece for my blog on rose scented snuffs. At the moment I an still in the planning stage and I have put together a list of such snuffs. So far I have the following, but if anyone can add to the list please do give me a shout. Sun Snuffs Kohinoor Sun Snuffs Sher Gawith Hoggarth English Rose Gawith Hoggarth Western Glory (with geranium) Samuel Gawith Princes Light (with geranium) Samuel Gawith Princes Dark (with geranium) Wilson’s of Sharrow Rose of Sharrow Toque Rose Dholakia Ganga Fribourg & Treyer Macouba Swisher Railroad Mills Maccoboy Molens Stichting de Kralingse Macuba Pitamberdas Anadji Mehta Sugandhsa Rose Brand Snuff Snuff Store Attar of Roses Frederick Tranter Otto de Rose G. Smith & Son Attar of Roses No longer available: Bespoke Martian Rose J&H Wilson Otto de Rose

Dholakia Kamal is another rose snuff

Holy cats! I had no idea there were so many.

Fribourg & Treyer Princes Special having a pinch now

Also no longer available Swisher/Helme Lorillard Maccoboy. These can be found on ebay fairly regularly though. If you’re counting floral blands like Princes Dark, etc, I’ll have to go through the collection and get back to you. I’m pretty sure there is some in the WoS Morlaix, but not as sure about F&T Morlaix.

Mullins & Westley Covent Rose In fact that’s what I’m taking at the moment.

Snuff Head’s own Rose Of Stepney, LOL! you tried it.

Oh yes, and very nice it is too! Thanks to all for the additions. I’m sure there will be a few more I have overlooked.

Molens Bon Bon

I consider Dholkia’s Ganga as a Rose stuff too. My real reason for posting here is that I would like to point out that there is no bourbon scent in the F&T Macouba and that Geranium Bourbon as noted is a specific type of geranium scent. For whom it may concern. Cheers!

I don’t think theres any rose in Bon Bon.

Indeed no rose in Bon Bon, but a lot of other flavours. Our rose flavoured snuffs are Macuba and Prins Regent. Jaap Bes.

Correct spelling is “Sugandhsagar” sometimes as two words “Sugandh Sagar”. I guess you clipped that from snuff reviews, which the input doesn’t seem to like long names and cut the last few letters.

Sun Snuffs Kohinoor and Sher you consider to be a rose snuff?

They certainly have Rose in them.

Indeed, I personally never found rose to be the dominant characteristic for either of them however.

@Ermtony, I just wanted to thank you for this Task! I love a good Rose snuff, I find the Wilson’s quite adequate, but am still anxious to receive my Attar of Rose. I put off that purchase far too long. Thanks.

I’m afraid I’m being rather slow at finishing off the article though… Soon!

Isn’t Kamal meant to have rose flavour in it?

I believe so, but rose isn’t the primary flavouring in Kamal. I’m really looking at those snuffs predominantly or solely scented with roses.

It just dawned on me that Samuel Gawith haven’t got a proper rose snuff. I came here to check ermtony’s list, and only see the Princes (Dark & Gold). I find it odd because they have direct competitors with both Wilsons and Gawith Hoggarth in other straight florals such as Wallflower and Carnation. SnuffReviews.com shows 71 SG snuffs (more than anyone else) and not a Rose one among them.

Ive never really got on with SG. As a committed snuffer of English snuff I’ve always felt that I should like them more but they just don’t do it for me; they always seem to smell slightly synthetic. Talking about their oddities I can not fathom why Roderick is the only manufacturer that has a relationship with this site, even stranger now that all tobacco advertising is banned in the UK. Prominence on this site is probably worth thousands in advertising terms. And when advertising was still legal they (the UK brands) never made use of it. I can’t help thinking that GH, WoS et al are stuck somewhere in the 1700’s. Maybe they are worried about being lumped in in the public eye with Napolean or something.

@snufster: I think the old line British snuff makers are stuck in the 1700s because the methods they use are old and therefore can produce very limited quantity. Basically, they can sell almost all their production without advertisment.

Yes, you may have a point there.

“@snufster: I think the old line British snuff makers are stuck in the 1700s because the methods they use are old and therefore can produce very limited quantity.” Up to the 1960s The Guinness Book of Records cited the Sharrow Mill as being the oldest machinery still in use in Britain. However, with the possible exception of Samuel Gawith the production methods used by British snuff manufacturers are now very modern. For example the Sharrow mill maintains its ancient water wheel and mill but snuff is now made using an electrically powered atomising mill and a sieving machine with a twin-turbo unit. The automated sieving ensures that a grind is perfectly even as oversized particles are collected centrifugally against a mesh and reintroduced into the atom mill. Containers travel along automatic lines and are filled from the nozzle of a hopper and sealed at a rate of two a second. All very disappointingly high-tec. “Basically, they can sell almost all their production without advertisment.” Yes, except for advertisements in specialist journals like Tobacco I’ve never seen an advert for snuff from Kendal (save a feeble effort from Illingworth) or the Sharrow mill. Nor snuff advertisements from blenders such as Smith’s or Fribourg & Treyer. J&H Wilson and Hedges both had powerful backers to fund their snuff campaigns in the early 1980s. Wilsons of Sharrow might have benefited slightly from J&H Wilson’s advertisements due to the confusion over name, location and that at the time they both used identically sized pocket containers. It would have taken someone with real knowledge to discern between Wilsons and t’other Wilsons when buying .

“Ive never really got on with SG. As a committed snuffer of English snuff I’ve always felt that I should like them more but they just don’t do it for me; they always seem to smell slightly synthetic.” Have you tried any of their all-natural snuffs? For example fresh London Brown from a canister or tin is the very antithesis of synthetic. No snuff could be more natural than this sweet/smoky offering.

J&H Wilson Otto de Rose That brings back memories. J&H Wilson’s Otto de Rose was vile. Even their own advert for this snuff cautioned that it might be a little rich for some. It was packaged with a nauseating pink coloured tin lid. Rose of Sharrow was/is far fresher in taste and is one of Sharrow’s oldest surviving snuffs. I bought quite a lot of this when much younger. Threw in a tin with my last order for a nostalgic trip down memory lane.

Here is one.

Here is what J&H Wilson say about these pictured snuffs as part of their first advertising campaign* some thirty years ago : Otto de Rose - Blended with attar of roses, this is naturally a delicately scented snuff, though perhaps a little rich for some. Wallflower - Slightly more exotic flavour than Jockey Club Perfume; again a most pleasant snuff to take because it’s very refreshing. Medicated No. 99 - Appeals to many people because it gives the flavour of good tobacco blended with menthol and eucalyptus. S.P No.1 - No one knows what S.P stands for, perhaps Sheffield Pride, but all would agree that it is an excellent snuff, the brand by which all others are judged. The other six advertised snuffs were Top Mill No.1, Dr. Craig’s No.27, Extra Strong Menthol, Kensington, Finest Menthol and Jockey Club Perfume. The booklet from which these descriptions come also contained information on arranging a visit to Westbrook Mill to see how snuff is made. Sharrow Mill also welcomed tourists and I took the opportunity to visit both mills. ************************************************************** *The second advertising campaign dropped Otto de Rose, Wallflower, No. 27 and Extra Strong. Included instead were Dr. Rumney’s Mentholyptus, Dr. Rumney’s Plus, Dr. Rumney’s Export and Singleton’s Super Menthol, which came in a tin resembling a cheap snuffbox with a hinged lid. This is what the second booklet says of these snuffs: Dr. Rumney’s Mentholyptus - Named after Dr. John Rumney of Brough, grandfather of the founder of Illingworth’s Snuffs of Kendal. Contains strong menthol element and perfected originally for instant relief of catarrh. Dr. Rumney’s Plus - The predominant flavour is aniseed with the addition of seven other secret ingredients. Dr. Rumney’s Export - A formula much milder than Dr. Rumney’s Mentholyptus and with the addition of eucalyptus and camphor. Singleton’s Super Menthol - Developed by Singleton & Cole of Birmingham. A snuff dating back to the 19th century. Medicated with camphor, eucalyptus and menthol. Only J&H Wilson’s, backed by the power of Imperial Tobacco, had the clout to advertise on the lavish scale they did. If I ever come across someone with a scanner I’ll try and get some of the smaller booklets and information sheets I acquired over the years into a file format.

Thank you, Philip. That’s very interesting. Its especially helpful when one is confused by the various Dr. Rumney snuffs that have been made.

am i the only one who gets an extremely painful and long lasting burn from snuffstores attar of roses? does this mean i could be allergic to roses?

Friend If you consider Dholkia’s Ganga as a Rose stuff too. I’ll have to go through the collection and get back to you then.

WoS Gold label is: Bergamot, Rose & Lavender (the rose & bergamot fight for dominance) Stok: RosaLi I think Gotard makes/used to make a Rose snuff

@jeffcraft1, I’ve never had the snuffstore Attar of Roses, so I can’t comment; however; the Wilson’s Rose of Sharrow burns like no other snuff for me. I consider it a positive attribute–I think there is an underlying sting to smelling a rose…a counter-balance to the sweetness…that the sting captures nicely.

6 Photo Anarkali is a Rose snuff too, isnt it?

And now there is SWS’s Roslein Snuff.

6 Photo Anarkali is a Rose snuff too, isnt it?

It is indeed very rosy. @Ivan have you tried it yet, is it heavy on the rose scent? I cant picture a SWS that is not good though.

@coreymillia nope, Mr.Snuff is fast but not THAT fast! I have some on order, looking forward to it :-bd