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I have smoked cigarettes for about 19 years and have been using snuff for about a year and a half. Today, because of health issues i have decided to give me best shot at giving up smoking. I’m using a combination of taxi red and magnet menthol, because these are readily available and strong.

I had my first craving about an hour after quitting and stuffed as much snuff in my nose as i could, the craving subsided nicely. I would prefer to be free from all tobacco, although I enjoy snuff i don’t like the idea of being addicted to something, we can’t have it all i suppose

Any tips or advice from ex-smokers or anyone as to what else i can do to make this easier?

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When I decided to quit I rolled up mullein, coltsfoot and lobelia herbs and smoked that .I cut the lobelia back every three days until adding none.I enjoy the act of smoking so I pick up smoking pipes. I practice not inhaling the smoke and got my technique down so not to scorch my tongue. I cut back on that also now I enjoy the time I do have a pipe full, I have no cravings . I also employ snuff and snus.

 I hear many stories of smokers quitting with snus and then quitting the snus and just using snuff. It about healthy pleasure. As with anything with moderation.Sometimes if I am busy enough I can go all day without any nicotine. I was hospitalized last year and went months without  nicotine.Cigarettes is a mental and physical addiction. there are foods that are high in nicotine and also should be cut back when trying to quit.eggplant being the highest .     http://www.livestrong.com/article/293186-list-of-foods-that-contain-nicotine/ I sure if you search there are more on the list. Best of luck 

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If you do cave and have a smoke, don’t beat yourself up over it, that will just make it more difficult. 

I was given this advice on my second attempt at quitting and it made the try easier (and successful since stress didn’t add to the desire to smoke).  That is all I can offer besides a hearty Good Luck!

O

Thanks for the insights. Unfortunately I crashed later in the day. Seem to be better at small half day quits. I enjoy smoking, so maybe i’ll have to just smoke a reasonable amount. True, it’s also a mental addiction.

Thanks for replies in advance.

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Lead the way! Thanks for the inspiration!

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@Oliver: I smoked about 15 years, pipe, cigars, ryo and cigarettes filter and non filters. I stopped about 35 years ago.

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Yes it happend again. Most of my post got lost in the proces of writing. Can anybody do something about it? It is very anoying  putting efford in writing and somehow it gets lost in the process.

Jaap Bes. 

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@Snuffmiller : So it is possible to quit. I switched to a pipe which i hear is not as bad as cigarettes http://pipesmagazine.com/blog/pipe-smoking-lifestyle/health-benefits-of-pipe-smoking/

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@Oliver Have you tried an e-cig?  I’ve now gone 14 months without a cigarette, I managed this with a combo of snuff and e-cig.  Then in June my e-cig broke, and I thought “what the hell, let’s see how far I can get without it.”, and haven’t felt any craving for either it or cigs at all.  I just take snuff.  I smoked for thirty years.  It can be done!

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i smoked, never managed to stop it with snuff because i dont think about it till i need it and a snuff was never strong enough like that (needs to be kept up regularly really) so id always have something to smoke on hand. however, when i started using swedish snus i would take some snuff and put a portion of snus in at the same time, and my last pouch of tobacco just got left unused. now i mostly just have a portion in and occasionally have a snuff when i want the sensation and scents. it keeps me very happy, though i am pretty heavily addicted to the snus. havent smoked (besides having the odd one when the girlfriend does and when i run out of snus*) for about a year. 

*even that is stopping. if i run out now ill mostly just bear it regretfully or pick up an e-cig, though they never satisfy me regardless of strength. 

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@Vostok : I’m trying one now and it’s going well. 

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@Oliver: It is possible to quit if you are REALLY up to it, Some help of the family is welcome. My physisian warned my wive : “DON"T SAY I WISHED YOU STARTED AGAIN”.

Pipe may be of help. Don’t inhale that’s the trick.

Good Luck and I wish you strength.

Jaap Bes.

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Thanks Jaap.

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Medscape Medical News Oncology

E-Cigs 95% Less Harmful Than Smoking and Helpful for Cessation

Roxanne Nelson

August 26, 2015

Electronic (e)-cigarettes are about 95% less harmful to health than tobacco cigarettes, and they might be useful in helping people kick the smoking habit, according to a reportcommissioned by Public Health England (PHE)
.this board won’t let me post the whole article, so more here:

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/850083

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^ It’s about time an authority came out with something positive about harm reduction instead of the usual “think of the children” drivel.

I smoked cigarettes for 25 years and snus was the only thing to get me off of them. I tried the patch, nicotine gum and cold turkey and it was hell. Snus stopped it dead in a few days. E-cigs were just starting to get some recognition at the time so I didn’t really consider trying it. I’ve since weaned myself off the snus (still keep it around for the convenience factor) and use snuff and the occasional pipe

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That’s it though, we have so many people worried about getting cancer they forget that things like vaping and smokeless tobacco is a means to harm reduction and not necessarily a means to an end. I love tobacco, smoking and anything related to sitting on the porch with a large glass of whiskey, snuff in my nose and a nice pipe by my side. I use e-cigs because regular cigarettes were not doing me well. But in that sense I wouldn’t have quit cigarettes if they didn’t try and do me in. I have found snuff, e-cigs and the occasional pipe to curb my nicotine cravings and at this point I woulldnt even take a cigarette if offered to me. People need to realize that everything will kill you and in the end you live a life and it’s time to do what you enjoy, now I’m in the car racing home to bust open my snuff order and have a big bowl of frog mortons ;D and if that decides to do me wrong well… I’ll die doing what I love…P.S. If I die, pack a tin of hedges in my suit pocket…

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With tobacco, what you don’t know can kill you sooner

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/08/150831182922.htm
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Here’s an interesting article http://www.medicaldaily.com/why-smoking-addictive-its-probably-not-just-nicotine-despite-what-weve-been-told-years-260839

After having done a lot of research I agree with what they say above. When i quit cigarettes for six months,I was just using snuff and I hardly had any cravings if I hadn’t snuffed in a while.

I’m using targard disposable filters, and am going to wait a few days before quitting, just to get some of the other chemicals out my system. Still using snuff, and pipe.

Thanks once again for the replies and support.

O

!UPDATE!

I really suggest to all inveterate cigarette smokers wanting to quit that they use a filter, like targard for 2/3 days before quitting. I got mine from my local supermarket. Then mouth inhale (with filter) until you feel ready to stop altogether.

Takes a big chunk of the edge off the cig cravings because most off the bad chemicals are out the system.

Snuff is a great replacement.

Working for me so far, will post another update soon.

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Thank you both. The Univ Buffalo piece is the more important. By inaccurately villifying all tobacco, at the expense of safer methods of nicotine delivery, people get killed. But headlines and grants matter more to the hypemeisters. In that sense they have as much blood on their hands as one peddling cigarettes in the schoolyard.

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I like tobacco, but I do not like cigarettes. I think much of the harm of “tobacco” use comes from cigarettes where really you are not using tobacco but inhaling burnt plant cellulose and chemicals deep into your lungs. To use cigars or pipe tobacco, which is real tobacco, not inhaled into the lungs, or snuff, which merely brings tobacco into contact with the nasal membranes, serves a more useful, therapeutic and less harmful benefit to the body, and in time you come to realize that nicotine is not the villain. This chemical is not itself carcinogenic, not addictive. It’s the other junk added to cigarettes that are the enemy.

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Because someone else in the house smokes (only outside) I was often temptated to join. For a long time I resist now and didn’t burn my tobacco any longer. Schmalzler is of very good help, and the iron discipline not to light up. Snuff and snus are just better. At least for those around you.

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I’ve more recently taken to vaping then smoking a pipe, but with anything you worry about the added dangers. The one true constant in life is that snuff is awesome…and cigarettes are kinda dumb lol

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I’ve never tried vaping, I don’t trust the unknown chemicals the cartridges use as propellants nor the obscure places that manufacture the cartridges. I’m interested to see case studies of what happens to vaper’s after say 20 to 30 years of usage… I did quit cigarettes 2 years ago after 17 years of smoking. I went to premium hand rolled cigars. I love, love good cigars! But the cost and time is equal to cigarettes, now I’m getting into snuff to manage my cigar habit So far so good, really enjoying snuff!

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I decided to post a video on my channel with my thoughts on the topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4euLSyeJoE