I recently purchased from NicotineRush Toque’s St. Clement and Spanish Gem. I love them both very much, and it may just be my newbie nose, but I find the differences between the 2 almost imperceptible. What do you think? Is it just me?

Maybe they were too close together for too long. Have you let them air out a bit? Have you let them air out too much? They are definately different.

St Clement is supposed to be citrus flavoured whilst Spanish Gem is a sweet tasting snuff. Totally different babies.

see, and I think vanilla tastes like chocolate mint. (and I love it) I think some people get different smells out of things. I don’t find the spanish gem to smell sweet, nor do I find it to be much different at all from the vanilla, but watch everyone disagree with me:

Very different snuffs. One is honey and fudgy (Spanish Gem), the other is citrusy.

St. Clements = Oranges; Spanish Gem = Chocolate Cake Mix.

I find that Spanish Gem tastes like chocolate and blood-oranges (those oranges specifically) and it’s a light chocolate like milk chocolate too. I haven’t tried St. Clements yet but it’ll be on my next order.

Nothing alike man , for me St. Clements have some similarities with Toque Grapefruit .

St Clements is a very astringent citrus flavour, for me it can be a little overpowering at times. Spanish Gem tastes like honey & nuts to me.

@toffeenose, you’ve described it nicely, spot on. @ap, I agree.

I have to try this spanish gem. sounds like it’s up my alley for sure. Plus I’ve got to see what I say it smells like. It amazes me what diffrent scents I pick up from diffrent snuffs at diffrent times. Especialy when switching nostrils.

so it’s settled. it is my newbie nose. after hearing your takes on the flavors i can quite see the differences., now, i guess, that i’ve tried them again.

Imho Not a big fan of toque, its not that they are bad. Just that my nose catches the same underlying flavor on all the ones i have tried… They are very similar I am pretty sure they dont use different types of tobacco leaves…

Id love to know a lot more about the Toque production. My guess is that he buys the base snuff in and just does the flavouring and packing as it does seem to be predominantly the same base and took a while for toasts and now KB type snuffs to become part of the catalogue.

I thought finished product producers, SG, G&H, Pease, Cornell & Diehl, even Reynolds and other big tobacco, don’t grow the material they are processing. I read an article about tobacco farmers, and how they usually contract their crop prior to the season, but assume all the risk if weather, blight, or some other factor intercedes. Is this inaccurate information? Which producers use ‘blends’ of tobacco, and which blends are they using? Is burley the predominant type like cigarettes? Examples, please?

Coming back to my Toque comment, what I meant was that I suspect he buys the base, milled snuff in for his team to flavour. The big old companies take that process right from the point where they get the raw tobacco in barrels. Roderick, can you shed some light here?

Nigel, Roderick is now offering some tobacco leafs to our members as I’m sure you’ve already seen. Even if he does buy some base snuff, I’m quite sure he also grinds some leafs himself. But, which ever way he uses, he makes/supplies some SUPER snuff.

We have a term, it’s called ‘chutzpah.’ lol, the sheer ‘noive’ to ask the guy to tell how he conducts his business. Remarkable. I’m impressed.

lol

I just wish the Toque snuff scents would last a little longer. In my nose, the scent of most Toque snuffs is gone in about 30 seconds.

Z_2K that’s the perfect amount of time for it to last, because then you can have another pinch! when i snuff F&T, it seems to last forever, which is not good if I want to snuff a different flavor.

Rest assured there is no bigger fan of Toque than myself, Pieter. All continued success to him!!

Herzll - just pure interest from someone who is fascinated by snuff. We have all been on the friendliest terms with Roderick ever since he started Toque and know that he would never divulge anything detrimental to his business. At the end of the day I am just an interested consumer, not a competitor, expert or industrial spy! I don’t think there’s any ‘noive’ involved when it comes to asking about a product you are buying! Easpecially when the hard hearned cash is light on the ground!

It’s all good. My interpretation of such a question is no reflection of his perception. As I said in another context, I’m somewhat formal, a life-long student of etiquette, and certainly recognize that those notions are archaic to many. Admittedly, I don’t know a lot about the process of being a snuff manufacturer, beyond what I’ve read, but tend to relegate some disclosures to voluntary, but not appropriate to put the person on the spot by asking. A matter of style perhaps. If he chooses to answer your question in this public forum, I’ll stand humbly corrected and beg your pardon. Thank you for your understanding and forbearance.

Herzl, as I said don’t forget this is a public forum and the questions we ask of each other, especially our great experts like Roderick, are what makes it so interesting. Rest assured that Rodercik is a well loved member and is not about to be put under any pressue to divulge his industrial secrets. In my view a consumer always has the right to ask questions when he is buying a product - thats how it should go across the entire economy and I buy a lot of Toque products. Your sense of etiquette and formality are laudable and entirely your affair, but surely that extends to not criticisising a harmless question, because it does not accord with your own views on how we should conduct ourselves? Thats appears as little more than arrogance. Are we to expect an intervention from you whenever a comment does not meet with your approval? By the way, Roderick was kind enough to speak privately to me about this - an action that is entirely in character with him. You have my forebearance, my understanding is, I am afraid, not so complete KIndest Regards Nigel

actualy if roderick doesn’t print the whole reciepe book here with the addresses of all his bussiness contacts we are going to start calling him stinky head!!! Hows that for pressure??? Of course I’am kidding we can come up with a meaner name then that.

Isn’t this how the plot for Soilent Green got started?

mmmm, Soilant Green, yum.

That could be the new Toque flavor. Just need to find a crematorium supplier for the base.

Hmmm, would be a nice name for a Halloween snuff.

Clockwork Orange too. Mind the cogs.

Well hell, might as well get a “new car” scented snuff while we’re at it.

I’ve never head of Soylent Green, so I looked it up. Sounds like a really cool movie. I’ll have to rent it.

70’s charlton heston is great. i love the perpetual grimace.

Brilliant movie. The novel is even better (Make room! Make room!)

I’ve placed my order with Roderick for 25g tins of Berwick Brown, Lime Toast and Natural Toast. Oh Lord, when is this madness going to stop? Ordering more and more and more. But then, how can I live without tasting this new snuff? I’ll die little by little, every day.

how do i order this new snuffs? I have a order waiting to be shipped! about to make another one!

On the panel on the left of the Toque web-site towards the bottom is categories, Click on Tins then either 10g or 25G. You’ll find both the Berwick Brown & Line Toast both now listed.

Can’t find the Natural Toast in anything but 10g tins though

@Tony, I phoned Roderick this afternoon about this problem. He can’t get the 25g tin on the system. So I ordered a tin of normal Natural and sent him an e-mail to tell him it’s the Natural TOAST I want.

Aha! Brilliant! Thanks. I’ll go and put my order in.

@cstokes4- Soylent Green, the movie. Through it, you will gain a deeper appreciation of the lyrics sung by the Beatles in the song “Savoy Truffle”: “You know that what you eat, you are.”

even for an owner of a not so sensitive hooter like myself - spanish gem and st. clements are very very different, spanish gem is chocolate-ish and st. clems is citrus. both lovely. may i add that saucy jack was possibly under the impression that spanish was going to be citrus based ? some kind of semantic prejudice here . i wonder how much the wordage of snuffs actually cause prejudgement of anticipated tastes/smells.

“possibly under the impression that…” or…possibly under the influence of…??

Would it be possible to change the label from “Don’t Smoke Snuff Toque” to “It’s People” for Halloween time?

LMAO

Hmmm… Transform “Toque Menthol” into “Toque Soylent Green” for Halloween.

Having received my 100g bag of Natural Toast (with a very welcome extra tin - Roderick, you’re the best), I can confirm it’s one of my three “desert island” snuffs*. Also, it seems like the best “quitter” snuff for recalcitrant quitters: a friend of mine, who quit smoking a couple weeks ago, says TNT tastes like cigarettes should taste… * along with O&G and WoS Jockey Club