Question for the legal eagles out there

So, here’s a question that’s beyond my ken, but could have a direct bearing on the future of snuff here in the states. For a licensed dealer in tobacco, I am aware that there are many who sell their own blends of pipe tobacco, and even a few who sell cigarettes they make in-house. So, given these facts, does anyone know of any reason why tobacconists so inclined could not mill up snuff (or flavor snuff) for their customers? Just wondering whether a return to he days of artisanal snuff-making is a possibility. I love the commercial stuff out there, true enough, but there’s a certain charm to snuffing “a special blend, made by my tobacconist.”

Unless there is some obscure legislation across the pond I can’t see it being an issue? I think the reason you don’t see it is that its still such a niche, minority thing. From what I see on other threads most of the sales assistants that would sell you a can of Levi wouldn’t actually know what it was…

I agree with snuffster. I can’t see why you can’t, as long as you tax everything appropriately and keep records. Still, snuff is kind of a quirky thing, to the point where I went to my local tobacconist today and asked if they stocked any, and the clerk pointed me over to the dipping tobacco. Unless you sold it online, or were located in a big city, I think there might be a hard time selling it quick enough to make it worthwhile… And internet sales opens up other issues.

It’s more complicated than that. You’d have to get a tobacco manufacturer’s license and tax permit’s. This involves an substantial cash bond, all kinds of registration requirements etc. Retail tobacconists just blend finished products; they don’t actually make anything.

If he was milling up finished tobacco - loose leaf pipe or RYO for instance - would that not qualify as blending finished products?

According to US law, that’s considered manufacturing a tobacco product for sale.

Well, once again, US law takes a cue from the nanny state across the pond, making bad habits a hassle. Too much stupid legislation on personal choices, instead of focusing on real problems.

Actually, most of these laws date from the 19th century and were strictly homegrown. It actually took a long drawn-out campaign to persuade Congress to pass laws that permitted farmers to sell unmanufactured leaf to persons besides commercial manufacturers.

Well, crap! There goes that idea, I suppose. Retailers here stateside have a hard enough time of it as it is without having to post bond, etc., as a tobacco manufacturer. I suppose my idea of artisanal snuff at the local level must remain a - forgive the expression - pipe dream.

well, you can always make it for your friends of course!

Here is one: Off the Cuff SnuffI don’t think they make it themselves though.

What a great find, Xander!

These look good, but $6.99? And is the site current? All the years I see are long gone.

There’s a thread on it from last year. That’s where I found it. Someone in the forum got some back then. I think Trout may have had some.

When it says “distributed by…” it usually means they do not make it themselves.

Yes. Probably ultimately made by Wilson’s since they have so many contract brands, but who can say.