from 2012 all cigarettes sold in australia will have to be in a plain grey brownish package with just the brandname and health warnings http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/at-last-truth-in-cigarette-advertising-20100429-ttkh.html?comments=99#comments f
That disgusts me, not because I like cigarettes or big tobacco companies, but because its a tremendous victory for antitobacco, and I’m against them entirely. I don’t have words for this outside of “disgusting”.
stylin. I bet one of the legislatures smokes lady cigarettes in private but manly smokes in public, now he can smoke the lady cigs without being laughed at or so he thinks. Though I can see that increasing over seas markets. I totaly see it being a hit with goths, industrial kids, and other assorted forms of grim hipsters. I must admit if their was a company that made packages like that on porpuse, I would have to buy their cigs (when I was a cig smoker that is).
Well, that will help. What it will help though, is unclear. I am beginning to wonder about my theory that lack of nicotine has an adverse effect on some individuals. For some, it seems to cause extreme brain dis-function. More likely, they spout off these stupid measures, only as a leg-up in their self-serving political careers, feeding chum to the ignorant majority. In the last few years, you hear more and more inane propositions and laws, to “save us from ourselves”. What’s scary is the general public becomes desensitized after a few times, then just lays down and takes it. I am so sick and tired of it, I could just spit. Sorry, for the rant. I will now find a non-smoking area and light my pipe, just for spite. GrrrrrrrrRRRR !-G
I can see it now…a few years from now all snuff will be packaged in Garrett tubes with no label…just a picture of a grotesque man with brown goop coming out of all orifices and tumors sticking out of his nostrils with the warning “CONTAINS TOBACCO! WILL MAKE YOU ICKY AND DEFINITELY KILL YOU INSTANTLY!”
@ bob … yep grim hipsters . goths remember the death cigarettes a black pack with a skull and crossbones on it with death in big letters anyone make this link clickable ? cheers
Well guys and dolls, I’ve been to a cardiologist for the 3rd time in two months. Bloodflow/pressure in my right foot is only 30% of what it’s supposed to be and I already have one stent in that leg. Next step is a bypass in my lower abdomen to try and rectify the problem. While I was sitting there, waiting for the results, I cursed myself for smoking so much because that’s one of the main reasons for this problem. I smoked for more than 40 years, at some stage 70 cigarettes per day. I also smoked pipe and cigars. So please, I urge you who are still smoking to quit. The pleasure of smoking is not worth the agony it might cause later on. I know that now but it’s to late.
@ Pieter I hope everything turns out well for you and that you won’t need surgery. My thoughts are with you and your family. Your warning is backed by significant personal experience, but I suspect a lot of us younger folk will still believe that we are invincible and continue smoking. If cigs could give you those types of issues after say, 3 years of smoking, I bet a lot of people would never start. I am glad to be past that stage in my life, but while in college I would have laughed at someone warning me to quit. I’m just happy to have found the support of the members on this forum, and SNUFF and SNUS!! Goodbye cigs, hello much better nicotine delivery vehicles.
Good luck with the surgery Pieter. Perhaps there is some physical therapy you can do in the mean time.
I hope all goes well pieter. Though at least you make me glad I gave up the smokes.
Jesus Pieter, that’s terrible. Hang in there mate! Growing old is never easy, wish us luck kids.
Hope all goes well, Pieter…
My thoughts are with you, Pieter. I sincerely hope all goes well for you.
I thank all of you for your kind wishes. You’ve made my day!!
I am sure that you will be fine, Pieter, your tough as nails. I could care less if Cig compainies have to label their product this way, perhaps it’s Karma for all the years they said smoking wasn’t bad.
Well, it’s only a matter of time for the brown packages to make their way into Canadian legislation. We had legislation, like many other countries, that now disallows words like “light” because it implies that “light” is healthier–apparently all cigarettes are equally deadly. I immediately switched to smoking the same number of cigarettes in a much stronger brand, confident that the added tar and nicotine was doing me no harm whatsoever. Then I switched to smoking the same number of cigarettes but this time in a non-filtered brand because, hey, they’re all the same. The flavour increase was tremendous–it was like discovering that all those years I had been taking my baths with boots on. It can’t be doing me any more harm than the extra lights I was smoking though, because why would non-smokers lie to me? It must be just as safe, they said so.
Most lighter cigs are bullshit. The way they test the tar and other stuff is by hooking it up to a machine that takes the same puff at the same time on any cig. So if you put holes in the filter it sucks in less smoke (your fingers and lungs make sure you suck in the same amount of smoke). light is a gimmick and a nasty one at that.
The problem with “light” fags is smokers blow them harder and inhale more. Strong and unfiltered cigarettes are safer in that sense. I remember my Russian favourite Belomor Kanal being so strong that I smoked it like cigars, without inhaling. Still the nic hit was foot-trembling.
Good luck Pieter hope you won’t need surgery, and if you do my thoughts are with you. Hope it turns out ok. Stefan