I have been a member of snuffhouse for over two years now…and it’s just not what it used to be. I remember when everyone was friendly and the conversations were civilized. No one had a gripe with anyone, and even if there was a difference in opinion, mutual respect won out and the discussion turned back to what we all have in common…the love of snuff. As of late we have experienced trolls, flaming, fighting, and people just up and leaving the site. I have no opinion in these quarrels, nor do I take any side of anyone’s fight, but…can’t we just agree to disagree and move along. I have always loved this site because it is unlike any other forum I have been a member of. People share their wisdom without shoving superiority in your face and making you feel like your questions are dumb. We are a community, damnit, and I hate to see this site go the way of many another forum. Cut-throat and troll invested. I love snuffhouse. It is my homepage. It is the one thing I ALWAYS have time to check on in the morning, even when I am running late. You guys are like a family to me…I don’t want us all to become estranged. I raise my beer in a toast to the snuffhouse that was, and, hopefully, shall ever be. I love you guys. ~Ken
Snuff is more popular now than it was two years ago, whereas before I’d imagine this place mostly attracted the kind of people that genuinely love snuff we are now at a point in time where snuff is being used as a smoking cessation tool and as a novelty product by pipe and snus users. I’m not saying these other tobacco users are bad people, it’s just an example of the diversification of the userbase this forum is experiencing… With more people comes more dickheads.
Ive spoken to a lot of people who feel the same Ken. As a mod you tend to get whispers asking for threads to be cleaned up or people spoken to. The fact is that there is a more or less even split - in my experience - in opinion about how a site should be. There’s a good number of people that take the view that you should ignore anyhthing you don’t like and move on - that you should be able to say and post almost anything - and then there are people that call for restraint and who support the concept of mods and rules. Its a tricky thing to get right given that we want and value free speach. Ive been a member for three years; in that time I’ve had whispers telling me to ‘fucking die’, been called a ‘whining bitch’ by somone who disagreed with moderation (I’d given that guy a snuffbox a couple of weeks prior) and on and on. Fact is we are a big site and there are some real idiots here ranging from people with absolutely no patience or manners to the downright obnoxious. The worse cases we get rid of but if we applied that too strictly we would have no members left. Sorry Ken, but its not as simple as asking people to play nice - people are what they are. For the site to be free we have to give a lot of latitude.
I am not saying it’s simple. I know it’s not. People have to right to say what they want to, but they should also be adults about it. Say what you want, yes, but don’t get upset when people have opposing points of view. Personally I have found, as a rule, that it is not a good idea to talk about three things with friends. Religion, politics, and sports. If you agree with them, talk it up. If you have a strong feeling to the opposite of what they say, by all means, voice your opinion…but be an adult about it. I consider you all friends, and I feel that in our diversity we gain strength. People of all religions, political stand points…whatever, coming together to share the one thing we all love. ~Ken
OK then…I can take a hint. I guess I’ll be going now.
Of course. You are 100% correct and I know exactly what you mean; I’ve lost count of the times I’ve said similar things. But the people you are talking about are not going to change because you or I want them to; which is why Alex and the mods work to a kind of ‘mean level’ of behaviour. Im not talking you down and I share your feelings its just that asking people to be ‘nicer’ won’t have any effect on the ones that cause the problems.
I hope you aren’t serious, PP. This was directed at no one in particular. You are a valued member of this site. C’mon now. 
~Ken
nevermind. I do want to say you guys are the best. As the site gets more members the harder it is to balance things in modville. Believe me, I know the troubles of modism…sometimes it can be dam hard calming the natives. And the more naives there are the easier it is for them to throw you in the pot over the fire. A few carrots and potatos later and it time to eat. Then comes desert and a big hit of snuff. again…nevermind. carry on
LOL don’t worry Snuffy they haven’t banned me… yet. however, the admin knows that if I get alittle out of hand that they can simply ask me to behave…and I will. maybe
All I can say Ken is Amen to that! Snuff taking culture has always been one of civility, but I’ve also noticed a breakdown since coming back after a few months. I’ll stand my ground as you have. Snuff is a permanent part of my life and something I enjoy doing and talking about. It hasn’t stopped me from smoking yet, but every time I light up I get into an internal debate about why I’m wasting time and money for something that’s turned into a cold routine rather than something enthusiastic. Mum always made sure to teach me about being polite and show respect for everyone, whether I agreed with them or not. So far I hope I’ve held to that. Snuff is a Gentleman/Lady’s thing. A little bit of Victorian ethic goes a long way in a world that seems to be predominantly populated by individuals that wish to be antagonistic. In short, rebels in society now need to have impeccable manners and swim against the tide.
It is the internet, it is not personal, but some people read something that is contradictory to their view point and it becomes personal, they magically transcribe tone to what is mere text and lash out as if the person spit in their face. Hey I will raise a hand of being guilty for baiting the incorrigible. But look at it like this, the person in question would have had an issue with somebody at some point and stormed off. And truly I would bet dollars to doughnuts they will be back, at minimum under a pseudonym. To those that think I am out of line or might be taken back by what I say, odds are good I am smiling while typing. I like good discourse and love learning more about this new hobby of mine. The bottom line is don’t get worked up by the text of another here. I mean really if their words can get your dander up so easily how do you get through the trials of every day life? Ken
‘‘they magically transcribe tone to what is mere text and lash out as if the person spit in their face.’’ Now that is a little pearl of wisdom and a point I made privately to a member here a few hours ago. How many times have we seen it, and be honest, felt the same? I admit I have. You don’t need to be a fool or purposely argumentative to fall foul of this piece of human nature. I may have said this thread won’t stop people doing what they do, but its certainly helpful.
Member since Feb 2009, and I agree, seen a bit of a decline, going on for some time. Unavoidable perhaps, but sometimes ignoring the causes really are the best way to combat them. If someone is being a prick, ignore them.
Yep, and please don’t feed the trolls - let us deal. In terms of decline through behaviouir; well in the next version of snuffhuse we should have some increased capacity for the mods to weed the trolls out before they get signed up. Ill leave it at that as we are not there yet.
Perfectly cromulent worries and I agree they should be discussed. One general problem is that people understand and use online forums in so many different ways. Some treat them as form of chats, some are less impulsive and only write when they feel they have something of value to contribute, some use them as repositories of knowledge while not posting themselves etc. All are valid ways of using forums, but different perspectives may indeed lead into conflicts. My one suggestion for improvement is creating a clear “READ THIS BEFORE JOINING” -sticky, where posting guidelines would be explained more carefully. Some might even read it. In my opinion, this forum differs somewhat from many others in its users’ hankering keep things and threads fairly organized, whereas some forums are flooded with parallel threads with essentially the same topics. I prefer how an older thread can be revived with added info and conversation. It makes searching a topic easier, as well. Speaking of the search, the search function could be better explained with a following graphic: 
_"If someone is being a prick, ignore them. "_I agree with matsnuff. Some people just are truculent morons and there’s nothing you can do to change them. Best to give them a wide berth. I do think there’s a technical solution, used in some forums, that might help lower tensions here – namely a “ignore user” or “ignore thread” feature. That way you wouldn’t need to see posts that might ruin the flow of your day. I wonder if this could be implemented in the Snuffhouse 2.0 ? FWIW, I’m cool with snuffhouse’s level of moderation –there are some forums so prude where I can’t even tell about my trip to Scunthorpe to buy a wristwatch. EDIT: I forgot to add my thanks to Alex and mods to keep this forum running. So, Thanks!
I would just like to point out that there are worse things than troll infestations. It could be bedbugs…
The problem now is that the troll is still here in stealth mode, making it difficult to ignore long term! I do pine for the days when I pondered which snuff to try next, not which FNG is he now! Not really fair to the “real” new guy. It just makes me sad, this site was, and can be, so much more.
I urge you all to contact Alex direct with your thoughts (email not whisper) He doesn’t read everything so its not safe to assume that your comments are known to him. In terms of structural things and what mods can and can not do Alex is in complete charge. Also, if you know of (or get a hunch) that a troll we have banned is still here PLEASE let Alex or a mod know.
@snuffster. I agree completely. @Jari T. The wristwatch you bought in Scunthorpe might be of interest here, if you interviewed a few Miners who told you what Snuff they were enjoying “down the pit”. 
Mr_Snuffypants, huh??