To My Fellow Nicotine Fiends- I used to smoke a 1.5 packs per day. I smoked either Marlboro Black 100’s or Marlboro Red 100’s and nothing else. I thought cigarettes tasted good, smelled good, were cheap and easy and a great nic fix. Boy, was I wrong. After trying some Toque from a friend, I knew that I had to get my hands on some dry snuff. After searching high and low and finding nothing, I finally came across some American scotch snuffs at Tobacco Discounters and was in love at first sniff. In Ohio, it costs less than $4 for 32g of Navy Sweet Scotch. Snuff can and likely will save you from lung cancer and/or emphysema. I watched my grandfather die of emphysema, and it was a horrible and slow death. Cigarettes stink, they’re expensive, they make you physically feel sick (at least to me). I don’t like cigs at all anymore, and I strongly encourage any smokers who are curious about snuff to make the switch. Hell, if you’re new like me, shoot me a message and I’ll direct you to some good snuff. I highly recommend Toque and basically any American Scotch snuff. I know it’s almost painful to imagine life without cigarettes - trust me, I have only been off cigs for a week and it still sucks, and probably will for a while yet. But we’re all in this together. Cheers.
You should send that into your local newspaper/fish wrapper.
Nice post. The thing about snuff is that it keeps tobacco in your life, without the pain of the ‘smoking>NRT>nothing’ cycle that is the alternative. Just make sure you take a big couple of pinches whenever you want a smoke and sooner or later, usually quicker than you think, your craving will be for snuff and smoking will be history. No one loved smoking more than me and now I don’t even touch my pipe; not because I am using any willpower but because snuff has steadily become the only form of tobacco I like these days. Stick with it brother.
TS, you basically went through the same thinking process than me. I am with snuff now for almost 2 years and don’t miss the cigarette at all. I still bum a cigarette from a friend from time to time, just to see if I’m missing something and I always have the same conclusion : what a disgusting, insipid, ininteresting tobacco product!
“Hang in there”
I was a pack a day smoker till i discovered snuff and snus. I still smoke maybe 2 or 3 cigs a day, mainly because i still like the sensation of inhaling, but snuff is so much flavorful, the hobby of collecting and trying snuff and snuff accessories is so much fun, and i dont have to freak out if im on a cross country flight and cant smoke. I’m glad snuff came into my life. Makes me wonder why i didnt think of getting into snuff a long time ago. I still smoke pipes though… But it doesnt have that weird acrid stink that cigarettes do sometimes.
What concerns me here in the UK is the decision that stores now have to hide all tobacco products behind a screen. This takes the best and cheapest alternative to smoking - snuff - right out of the line of sight, while e-cigarettes and nicotine patches will still be highly visible. I think the rule should’ve been combustible tobacco rather than all tobacco products.
@HR_pufnsnuff Wow, tobacco isn’t porn. Why have a law at all and not let education about the risks of certain products or habits convince people? They keep it behind a screen?
it’s a do nothing law that doesn’t effect much tangably but allows for the illusion of action. It’s like our law in PA that you can only buy so many fluid ounces of beer per visit to the store. The only thing it does is gives beer drinkers more exercise going in and out to get more beer (also it allows quick teenagers the chance to steal your beer when you go back in). But the anti alcohol people think hey they’re keeping people from drinking too much.
neat side effect of that law is you have to ask what they sell so some people might get more curious about the snuff. Also if they have to hide it it means that every snuffer will have to ask if they have snuff instead of just not seeing it, meaning they’ll go darn it we could be making these sales.
@HR_pufnsnuff That law has been in effect in Ontario for some years now. All cigarettes are kept out of sight, usually behind a set of shelves behind the counter with lifting covers. The cigs have to be kept out of sight. There are also horrible pictures of rotted gums, baked lungs, etc. mandated to be on our cigarette packs. One would think that if the nanny state wanted us to avoid smoking by putting these pics on the packs they would be in full view, or else the packs would be left alone and out of sight. Such is the reasoning of the anti-tobacco a**holes making these laws. I have to travel 2 hours to find snuff for sale in a retail store, and the only snuff I can buy is McChrystal’s SP. The large tin costs over $20 and would likely be bone dry for sitting on the shelf for months or years. Swedish Match is making an effort in bringing their snus to us here in Canada. But the regulations against advertising and the requirement of listing “toxic constituents” i.e. lead, TSNAs, nicotine, etc on their packaging must deter all but those companies that have the deepest pockets. It’s funny in a sad way that the store near me that sells snus has to keep the General snus fridge facing backwards… Heaven forbid I should glance upon a can of General Mint through the clear glass front and be overcome by some weakness and decide to purchase a whole entire roll of it! Sounds like the U.K. is headed in the same direction. Apparently things are even worse in Australia.
Before any Americans are overcome with surges of patriotism, I remind them that the same urges of Nannyism exist here such as @bob told of in PA. The problem with Democracy is that it is two wolves and a sheep deciding what is for dinner. And the wolves have decided that tobacconists and other small business as well as the companies that supply their products and you and I are “what’s for dinner.” Blast them all and curse all the nanny-staters. I will retire the floor now, before politics rears it’s ugly head.
The display ban here in the UK is a joke, in my opinion it makes an already forbidden fruit even more enticing to inquiring young minds, but specialist tobacconists will be exempt from the ban when the full ban comes in in 2015, but they will need to black out their windows so you cannot see in but everything inside will still be on display as normal, basically giving them the appearance of a seedy sex shop. I never have, nor will I ever hide the fact that I use tobacco so when it comes in I will make a point of taking a pinch of what I have bought or pop in a piece of tobacco as soon as I step out of the shop.
@Skell18 Hail You !!!
@Zimobog Yes, no politics here please. Your comment is treading dangerously close to the line. Also its spreading misinformation. Though that quote is routinely used on the internet, that quote is not from Benjamin Franklin and may not even be as old as the internet itself. see: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin\\_Franklin Scroll down to the “Misattributed” section to read the details
@Xander edited the apocryphal qoute to be attributed to Anon. Slippery slopes shall be avoided. Thanks.
Hiding tobacco behind the counter has nothing to do with anti-smoking. It was made up and lobbied by the Big Tobacco companies to support brand loyalty. If you can’t see the cheaper cigs you will never know they exist and you will keep buying expensive brand name cigs. In Canada they can’t even display cig prices or even show you what cigs they have you have to ask for the exact brand you want. All this accomplishes is brand loyalty, keep the Players smokers smoking Players by hiding the cheaper brands from them.
@Xander Why not create a new category in Snuffhouse to discuss precisely about tobacco politics around the world? This way we could keep these kind of topics out of the General section… I truly believe there’s a need for it in these troubled times. I mean, a lot is happening these days. We could very well be shooting ourselves right in the foot by avoiding such important subjects… Just my humble opinion.
Discussing tobacco policies is fine. Speculating on their veiled purposes is fine. Bringing actual political opinion into it is not fine. Bringing ideology into it as some often do is when it starts to get ugly. We’ve trod that path before. No need for a separate category.
If it was happening here in Maryland, I know that I would be holding up the line asking question after question just to prove a point. Like some stores ask your date of birth (not to see ID) I tell them I was born in 1901 lol I look good for my age
I’m not too bothered what the government does with tobacco, as long as I can get some snuff up into my nostrils and its cheaper than cigs I’m all happy.
My point is we pretty much have all the same opinion on tobacco policies, which is they are hitting too large and they are going too far and that we might see our dear hobby getting swallowed along. The problem with not allowing these topics in a specific section is, I suspect many of us will avoid bringing the subject in this forum by fear of getting banned, even if the comment does not cross the line of acceptability by your definition. I would be very happy myself to hear about news on the battles some are doing in their own country against bold anti tobacco policies… That being said, I leave it to mods opinion.
The reason cigarettes are bad is the manufacturer makes them. Roll your own from whole leaf tobacco without filters and you have a great tasting cigarette. Tobacco is a natural filter and you draw less deeper into your lungs without a filter. I don’t condone smoking cigarettes nor do I condemn them. Pipe tobacco is way more interesting and my smoke of choice
Big fan of Whole Leaf Cigarettes here. They are absolutly nothing like pre-packaged-posion. None of that clingy, dirty feeling/smell for one. Much less of a “come down”, and the pressing urge for another right when you want it. Stems make great snuff as well.
I have read that modern prerolled cigarettes in America are about 10% sugar, sometimes more. Just a difference between prepackaged cigarettes and actual tobacco.
@Kebamp Please go back and read my first comment again perhaps one of us has misunderstood the other. There’s nothing in the rules against discussing existing or potential policies, laws or regulations. We have reams and reams of threads on the PACT Act alone. If particular politicians, parties or other persons need to be named that’s ok too, just so long as its kept factual not opinion based and certainly must not be vindictive or spiteful etc. Also we don’t ban people in any sudden or way, except in extreme cases. Usually one of the mods will ask someone to tone down or rephrase a post or will in certain rare cases edit or delete a post if it goes to far. We’ve had to ban very few people in our history, and usually these individuals had plenty of warnings and were long term trouble-makers. We have sometimes long discussions about how to handle situations, and I think overall we’re pretty moderate moderators if you excuse the pun.
I have smoked cigarettes for over 40 years and have seen just about every attempt made to change labels thinking it would change people and it doesn’t. We find ways to laugh about them and move on like when Malboro came out with special blend and they were cheaper, everyone said that they were made from the clippings that fell on the floor and that mix made them special lol As far as politic’s… I have to agree that they can cause problems. On FB, people started defriending folks during the elections and said hurtful things that although sometimes are funny, do have a negative effect. Just an opinion
Yeah, there are plenty of forums out there where I already talk politics so really no need to do that here.
reminds me of something I read where an anti was like can you believe people still smoke. And I thought you dumb ignorant fack fuce. Tobacco and humanity go way way back. Some of the oldest graves of humans have had tobacco in them, indicating that was something they wanted to have just in case you can bring it with you.
on politics I’d rather be friends with you guys then right. I have facebook for pissing off people dumb enough not to share my political views.
Getting back to what I believe was the original point of this thread, there is no doubt that smoking is bad for you, and due to what it does I grieve every Christmas for the loss of my friend Lisa from lung cancer five days before her 40th birthday, nine years ago. Incidentally, she smoked roll-your-owns rather than readymades because she felt they were healthier. I would much rather see all the smokers where I work hang around the doorway enjoying a pinch of snuff rather than have to walk through the smelly vapours of their habit. I know it’ll never happen, but I wish it would.
It’s great to see people choosing healthier alternatives to their vices. I’m still snuffing vicariously as I wait and try out different potential solutions for my nasal irritation- so far I’ve exhausted my options given by Western medicine(except for the advice that it’ll get better in time). I’m thinking of visiting an herbalist soon (Chinese or Western). Hopefully I can get back on the snuff wagon, and cut out- or nearly cut out the ryo’s. Snuff if you can folks, do it for “The Ol’ Gipper”- hopefully I can join y’all again very soon!
HR_pufnsnuff I don’t care what people say cigs definatily shortened her life. I feel for you. Glad we can enjoy snuff because well I like being alive.
Always sorry to hear of a friend lost due to smoking