Old snuff recipes

This is a very simple recipe of Peterburgian snuff, which was made in Poland (Union factory, Warsaw) in the second half of the 19th century. It was the most popular snuff among those produced by Union.

“Add 15% of wood ash, 10% of potash, 7% of salt, 2% of fragrant meleot herb to the dust of the very best mahorka; after mixing and sieving it properly, add drops of fragrant bergamot oil, then package it up”.

Meleot - Melilotus officinalis (yellow sweet clover), mahorka - Nicotiana rustica.

Potassium carbonate can be substituted with 7.7 % of sodium carbonate (anhydrous) for the same effect. Sweet clover contains coumarin, so it can be substituted with tonka beans, adding them to taste into the finished snuff.

Here’s a link to the blog in Russian where I found this recipe: За понюшку табаку - Мастерок.жж.рф — LiveJournal

A very interesting article about snuff taking in Russia there with a reference to another, more sophisticated old recipe of stoved Rose snuff, made from fine rustica flour, alkalized with wood ash and scented with a mixture of rose water, pine oil and rose oil.

Rose snuff recipe is disclosed in the book “Moskva i moskvichi” (“Moscow and Muscovites”) by V. A. Gilyarovskij (1926, Moscow), here’s a link to the snuff-dedicated chapter: http://www.gilyarovsky.ru/index.php/2010-09-11-15-43-53/2010-09-11-20-14-03

"Купить полсажени осиновых дров и сжечь их, просеять эту золу через сито в особую посуду.

Взять листового табаку махорки десять фунтов, немного его подсушить (взять простой горшок, так называемый коломенский, и ступку деревянную) и этот табак класть в горшок и тереть, до тех пор тереть, когда останется не больше четверти стакана корешков, которые очень трудно трутся: когда весь табак перетрется, просеять его сквозь самое частое сито. Затем весь табак сызнова просеять и высевки опять протереть и просеять. Золу также второй раз просеять. Соединить золу с табаком так: два стакана табаку и один стакан золы, ссыпать это в горшок, смачивая водой стакан с осьмою, смачивать не сразу, а понемногу, и в это время опять тереть, и так тереть весь табак до конца, выкладывая в одно место. Духи класть так: взять четверть фунта эликсиру соснового масла, два золотника розового масла и один фунт розовой воды самой лучшей. Сосновое масло, один золотник розового масла и розовую воду соединить вместе подогретую, но не очень сильно; смесь эту, взбалтывая, подбавлять в каждый раствор табаку с золою и все это стирать.

Когда весь табак перетрется со смесью, его вспрыскивать оставшимся одним золотником розового масла и перемешивать руками. Затем насыпать в бутылки; насыпав в бутылки табак, закубрить его пробкой и завязать пузырем, поставить их на печь дней на пять или на шесть, а на ночь в печку ставить, класть их надо в лежачем положении. И табак готов".

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interesting

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Excellent post!

Congratulations my friend!very interesting indeed.

Everybody who knows of an old recipe should post it here!

:-bd

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I’m happy to share a find! I hope it will inspire and encourage some folks to try their hand at snuff making.

Found another one yesterday. It’s Zolotaya Rybka nyuhatel’naya mahorka - Goldfish rustica snuff, produced in Soviet Russia in the 1960’s:

" Goldfish - highest quality nasal rustica snuff. Fine grind, mentholated. Nicotine content 1.8%, factory moisture content not exceeding 25%. Contains (in mass %) potash 1.5, ammonia 1.5 [decimal point missing in the source, scroll down to my next comment!], mint oil (containing 50% menthol) 0.5 to increase the strength and create a cooling sensation. Packed in 50 g paper packages with inner parchment paper and foil lining."

Source: Товарный словарь | М | Махорка

NB! Concentration of ammonia is not specified.
10% solution would make sense.

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Regarding ammonia content in Goldfish snuff, 15 parts of ammonia is a gross blunder. I tried adding such amount of 10% ammonia water to some stale snuff and binned the concoction immediately after a single pinch. It seems there’s a decimal point missing - should be 1.5%, not 15 (I have corrected this in previous comment). I tried 3% previously and found it all-right.

1.5% meets the requirements of old Soviet snuff manufacture regulatory document ВТУ 256-56, which defined max. total amount of alkalizers (potassium carbonate, sodium carbonate and ammonia water (25% solution) up to 3% of total product weight:

Махорка нюхательная. Вырабатывалась по ВТУ 256—56, и представляла собой измельчённое до пылеобразного состояния растение махорка с добавлением следующих ароматизаторов и щелочей (в %): мятного масла (с 50%-ным содержанием ментола) 0,5, спирта-ректификата 0,5, рафинадной патоки или глицерина не более 1, поваренной соли не более 1, поташа, кальцинированной соды и 25%-ного аммиака в общем количестве до 3.

Нюхательная махорка выпускалась двух сортов: высшего качества и обыкновенная. Высшего качества содержала никотина не менее 1,8%, крупных частиц не более 1% (по весу). Обыкновенная махорка содержала никотина не менее 1,4%, крупных частиц (по весу) до 2%.

Упаковывалась махорка нюхательная в мягкие пачки с внутренней прокладкой из фольги или подпергамента, весом по 50 г (с отклонениями ± 5 г). (Source: Товарный словарь | М | Махорка)

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@volunge, I just did the same thing with slaked lime.  I could have sworn I’d read that up to 10% by weight was ok to use.  It was WAY too much ammonia!  However, after a couple of weeks in the jar, I dumped it out into a large bowl and set it outdoors in the breeze.  About two hours later, I could actually sniff the bowl without it “knocking me out”.  LOL

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@Cobguy, White Elephant contains 6.39 g of… calcium (sic!) per 100 g of snuff:

http://www.41photosnuff.in/certifiacte.php

If calcium stands for slaked lime, that’s almost 6.5% of the stuff in there. I bet moisturized Elephant would emit knocking amounts of ammonia as well.

I would love to play with pH meter someday… You can’t go wrong with that device. Here’s the link to related discussion: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/threads/homemade-snus-with-rustica-tobacco-leaf.82566/ , breathtaking! Some interesting diagrams there.

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Morning, friends!

Sharing the latest find - Verbesserte Rauch- und Schnupftabak- und Cigarren-Fabrikation.  Leuchs, Johann Carl (Nurnberg, 1846).

It’s a German book on tobacco, snuff and cigars fabrication. Scanned book is available here: https://reader.digitale-sammlungen.de/resolve/display/bsb10305199.html

Or you can visit Bavarian State Library :). 

Many famous recipes there. Jump to page 200 for snuff.

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Is a good one. I used a later edition for recipes!

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@snuffmiller Thanks for verifying the source, Jaap! I will search for different edition to make a comparisson. Interesting to explore, how the recipes evolved.

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This is awesome. Just gearing up to start making my own. Wish Chef Daniels was still around! Good to see others involved as well.

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Many old snuff and snus recipes and other useful information shared in this yahoo group:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Snuff\_Grinders\_homemade\_nasal\_snuff

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Hey @volunge quick note: when possible (and convenient) please copy the pertinent quotes from the source material over here. I ask that because when reading old snuff threads so many of the links are no longer accessible. Thinking of myself when I come back to this thread years from now when I finally start making my own snuffs :slight_smile:

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@ar47 Unfortunately, scanned Russian and German books are in .pdf and .jpeg formats, and it’s impossible to do OCR conversion to editable text format due to old fonts (OCR would allow basic machine translation). Learning languages can be fun, but these two sources are probably the worst way to do that. While old Russian doesn’t differ much from modern (just some obsolete letters they don’t use anymore), Gothic font might be a pain. Anyway, I’ll drop links for downloading these files once I have them uploaded somewhere. Or even transcribe them using modern fonts, but it’s too time consuming for me at the moment.

Some dead links can be resurrected with a help of Wayback Machine: https://archive.org/web/

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Interesting indeed! I bought a paper package of Russian snuff on eBay 10 years ago. It was really horrible! I like the old recipes of de kralingse. I still have many 100 gram tubs in my freezer but I like to take modern snuff just as much. I wish we could still get snuff from the windmills!

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@mrmanos, if you still have that old Russian rustica snuff, try restoring its original moisture by adding 25% of water. Or - even better - 23.5% of water and 1.5% of ammonia water (10% solution). It makes day and night difference! Regrind your dried-out snuff with spoon before proceeding, add the mixture of water and ammonia, mix properly, let it sit overnight, mix again and sift through any tea strainer (work with small amount of snuff, add 2.35 g water + 0.15 g of ammonia water to 7.5 g of dried-out snuff and thoroughly mix).

If you don’t want to mess with ammonia, skip it. Just add 2.5 ml of water.

Fresh snuff of that kind was released 25%-moist.

Which one did you get, a regular plain one, or the peppermint version? The minty one can be re-freshened with the addition of peppermint oil (0.5% of total end snuff mass - one drop oil for 10 g snuff).

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Didn’t know where to post this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4i32cGbxlw

is this the St.Omer 1 mr @snuffmiller ?

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@tobaccobob: No Sir! This picture was made after I left the windmills. I don’t know what the result  was of this “exercise” but I doubt it resulted in any special snuff at all.

Jaap Bes.

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@tobaccobob, thanks for sharing the link!

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@volunge here’s the man himself I believe @snuffmiller. https://youtu.be/5qWM0xbpAgI

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