I got hold of some of this very “famous” snuff today from Wesleys. Now my brothers and sisters, I can asure you I’ve never seen anything like this before. Grind is not coarse, it’s LUMPS of tobacco. Dark brown in colour. I used a small spade to get it to my nose. LOL And it’s WET, and it smells like a cat’s sandbox which has been in use for a year. But, after I’ve left in direct sunlight for about 4 hours, it’s a different storie. The cat has gone and what’s left is very nice. This is GOOD snuff if you like STRONG tobacco up your nose. It is pure, uncured, rough neck stuff, not for faint-hearted people. One sniff will keep you going for hours. Nicotine hit must be the highest available. I’m pretty sure one can put this in a pipe and smoke it. NTSU stands for: Naked Tobacco Snuff Unmatched…my own wording.
Give us a pic.
Am I missing something? What is the proper name?
lol, The word naked and tobacco all in the same sentence!!! Careful Pieter you are treading that fine line of having this thread closed :)!!!
Wesley’s snuff? Where does that come from, Pieter?
Very interesting…what are they calling it at the shop? Is it a South African product?
NTSU is the proper name for this South African made snuff. Although it says on the lid M.L.P. Distributors, Wesleys Tobacco is the only place where I could find this snuff. Wesleys is the only online tobacconist in SA. NTSU is listed on Filek’s list and at SnuffTalk you will find one review which is not very flattering. On the lid it says M.L.P. Distributors, Johannesburg, no indication of who makes it. I have an idea that it is related to Taxi and will talk to my friend at our local shop about it. Debbie, you can google Wesleys. But they are terribly expensive as far as postage and shipping are concerned. Postage in SA for 3 tins of snuff was more than half of what I pay for a package from SnuffStore. Tom, I will try and post a picture as I would like all of you to see this “snuff”. It’s actually tobacco crumbs but what is funny about it is that it sits well in the nose. That’s after I’ve dried it completely.
It sounded like school initials…Nine Times Snuff University! Sounds like a great snuff!
I think the initial response is “bad”, because these SA snuffs are just different, and wet. But after you chop it around with a knife a little, and let it sit open for a bit, they are very good, solid coarse straight snuffs. I did think the Magnet Peach, and Taxi Rock, and Wilson(SA) Menthol, and Singleton’s Super Menthol are comparable to Euro snuffs though.
I like a moist snuff. I think these would be popular in dry climates.
Ntsu is also the sound that you make when sneezing…say it out loud and you will hear what I mean. :<)
well NTSU…as per my knowledge is manufactured by an Indian based in S.A…it has huge market in S.A…very strong snus…mainly used for chewing.
Filek, that’s it!!! Where does Gawith comes into the picture? And yes Namrata, as I’ve said already, it’s actually tobacco crumbs and not snuff. But it is easy to snuff once it’s been dried out. I’m going to put some in my lip now, never tried it before but there is always a first time.
must be 2 in 1…!!!no idea about African users… and that the reason said MAINLY USED FOR CHEWING…hope Pieter can do more research on this issue!
What is Pan Masala?
combination of some spices with betelnut and tobacco.
To be chewed? And spit?
Well, I’ve had the NTSU in my lower lip now for about 10 minutes. It stung a bit at first and then it changed to a soft, sweet taste. It has formed a nice “plug”. It is not producing any coloured spittle, so I don’t know if it’s safe to swallow. Wish someone could advise me about this. It’s quite nice and I can feel the nicotine kick. At the same time I have some Manjul up my nose, I’m really into some Indian world now. Very nice indeed!! This is a good combination, I love it!! Namrata, I will talk to my friend at the tobacco shop tomorrow. I’m sure he will be able to shed some light on this topic.
thanks Pieter! true Indian fan!!!
Pieter- try an American scotch in the mouth.
I’ve rinsed my mouth now, the stuff came out in one piece, almost no crumbs left. This is something totally new to me, I’ve never had tobacco in my mouth before. I’m now going to try some American Peach, Tom. I hope I will live to tell you about it!! May I swallow the juice?
No, spit the juice. And dump a small amount of the powder in the lower lip, and it will form there, spitting the excess out. It’s not bad once you get used to the procedure. I used to dip Bruton and all of them.
Great find, Pieter! I was sure you’d turn this one up eventually!
I tried some American Peach in my lip and although it was quite nice, I doubt whether I will do it again. I prefer the snuff IN my nose rather than BENEATH it!! Xander, I will talk to my friend today and see if I can get NTSU via his shop. Anybody who would like to try this can let me know and I will get you a tin. But, be warned, this is NOT your ordinary snuff.
Pieter, dipping snuff (that’s what its called when its in your lip) takes getting used to, especially when its dry snuff like the ones we sniff. Now, I would never recommend making a habit of it, as there are consequences, but it can be pleasant. I know I sound wishy washy on it, but I want to tell you not to judge by one time but I also want to tell you not to do it all the time. I think around here Honey Bee and Tops Sweet are the most popular for this purpose. I had been trying each of my Americans this way once or twice each (except Maccoboy) but I think I’ve had enough for now. Sure, I’d love to try that Ntsu, at least once and have a tin for the collection. Your warning is well heeded, I’ve learned to keep an open mind for differnt snuff styles. Keep it handy for our next trade. As we’ve discussed, I have a few things here for you now. I think Wesley’s website lists a Ntsu menthol as well. Did you come across that one?
Pieter, one more thing. Try the Dholakia Black Snuff. I really think its your style!
ntsu is an anagram of nuts!
thank u pieter!
I can’t wait to try the Dholakia Black. @Namrata: Is the Dholakia Black a new product? Or is it a product that is established in India but will be breaking into the US market?
I can see I’m going to have to try the Dholakia Black myself. Sounds very good.
I’m also looking forward to get some of the Black Snuff up my nose. It might be the snuff I’ve been dreaming of all my life!!!
Well my friends, I must tell you, this cat pee snuff is growing on me!!! I like it more and more!!!
I’ve tried some Ntsu again today after it’s been sitting for 4 days. This is good stuff, pure tobacco, strong and although the grind is VERY coarse, the tobacco is soft, almost spunge like, and sits well in my nose. I’ve ordered some more but delivery takes almost as long as when I order from abroad.
This is tobacco in it’s purest snuffable form.
Pieter, I think you and I are going to have to do another trade in the near future
leman, I’ve already ordered another couple of tins, both Natural and Menthol. So you can just speak the word!!!
Regarding Pan, a Pakistani guy I once met gave me a couple of small packets similar to the original Dholakia packs. He instructed me to place it in my mouth like dip and called it Pan. It was very powdery with an herbal taste. I didn’t get anything out of it but I was a heavy dipper at the time with a high tolerance to nicotine. I assume its the same thing Namrata described? He claimed it was very popular and can often be mixed fresh at some of the local mideast stores. I don’t think I would snort any tho.
I received some more Ntsu today. I’ve sundried one tin completly and found that the snuff can be “ground” by just rubbing it between my fingers. I did that and then sieved it. The result is a fine, super strong, tobacco only snuff with a nicotine kick which lasts for ever (almost). Hard to believe but it is very more ish, can’t stay away from it. I’ve already ordered some more!!!
Pieter, I found my tin of NTSU, it was in the car, dry as a bone. I’m going to try re-grinding it and see what happens! lol
Jeff, I took mine to the mortar and that was it. I wish the guy, who wrote that terrible review, can taste a pinch of what I have here now. He will cat pee himself, I think! Go for it but make sure you are seated when you take the first pinch. I’ve taken two healthy pinches now and can actually feel the nicotine rushing through my veins. THIS is roughneck stuff!!!
Oh man that sounds good! I’m going to go out right now, and put the tin on the dash, so I don’t forget. May even take a pinch of it!
Man, that container is something. It’s been the car for months. I assumed it was dry as a bone, but it isn’t, it’s quite moist even. I left it open in the hot car.
Excellent! I look forward to it! You don’t have to thank me. Friendship just happens, and you’re a good one.
I’ve just now opened up another tin of Ntsu. Strange, this one smells quite good, sweet, with no cat p-- stench. I also have a spare tin of menthol and that too smells quite good although I’m not going to use it. Will rather trade it. @ sprangalang, I’ve tasted the snuff which I’ve ground and I’ve sieved with the same result; the nicotine hit is something out of this world. One can actually feel the nicotine running through your body, gives me goose pimples. I’m thinking of mixing it with some Taxi Red, might make it even more potent. I’ve got another 10 tins coming but it takes time, should have it in 2 weeks. I’ve now taken another two LARGE pinches and chased it with some Rooster. WOW, this is good!!!
Pieter, You are probably the only one here who has now had every South African snuff. I would now appoint you South African Snuff Expert. Now, tell us, If all you could get was domestic snuff, which one would be your main one. Which one could you not be without?
Xander, Singleton’s Menthol is to me a world class snuff and I ilke it very much. I’d hate to be without that one. Second to that is a Taxi Red/Magnet Peach combination.
I knew that! Why did I ask you?
My NTSU was still a bit damp when I tried to grind it. I put it in the microwave for 10 seconds. Voila! Poifect. Ground it up with a stone mortar and pestle, sieved, and put back in the tin. I took a few sniffs - very nice natural tobacco flavor. I did not blast off though, just had a little taste. It’s been a while, had some time to rest. Tomorrow, I will hit it hard, and we’ll see…
Well I remembered the NTSU, it got left in the car again after re-grinding. Today after lunch I took two big pinches and… oh dear, where is the safety belt on this thing, wooooooooeeee, Pieter was not exaggerating! It is an SP-ish flavor, but different. I like it better this way. Gonna have to try this with some Taxi Red.
I get a saltiness in it.
spangalang, I wonder if there is any other snuff availabale with a higher nicotine content? I’ve taken a pinch now and YES, the nicotine RUSHES through my whole “system”!!! The wonderful thing about this snuff is, it does not smell strong or burn my nose. That is, once it’s been aired well!!! I said in another post it’s not necessary to grind it into a finer snuff but I take that back. The kick in the finer form is just so much better. This is addictive stuff, and that’s no lie.
My NTSU is still a bit moist and stinky for me. I’ll try it again later this afternoon.
The NTSU grind is finer than Taxi.
Just curious, but has anyone tried grinding up some old Copenhagen snuff? I’m curious as to the nicotine hit in that stuff. I’m guessing its strong; we used to refer to it as Crackenhagen. Pardon the OT, just rambling so I don’t have to trim my hedges today.
Spyro- I did, well, it was a generic fine-cut natural… but it had an icky taste/smell… I used a coffee grinder. It wasn’t good. I’m done with trying to grind and flavor, as I will leave that to the professionals.
Copenhagen snuffs just fine and is very stong in the nose.
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She’s cute, Filek.
I’ve mixed a little Taxi Red and the fine ground NTSU. The taste is nicer but it did take away some of the NTSU’s potency.
I’ve been waiting a while now for some more NTSU. The guy phoned me this morning to tell me he’s got 20 each of the Natural and Menthol coming. So if there still are some more members who want to risk their lives by trying it, whisper me and we can work a deal.
Pieter, I found this site while looking for more info on this snuff. Maybe it would be a better supplier for you? https://www.downsouthgroup.com/sa/Catalog.aspx?cid=1773
@ Bigmick, thanks for the info but I live in South Africa. The only reason why I have to wait so long is because our local tobacconist orders from Wesleys in stead of me. I got him interested in NTSU and now he stocks it but he only orders once a month. That’s why I could offer here to get it for whoever want some and then go and buy it from Curiosity Hut. The difference is that he now pays for shipping. I buy from him at the same price I would have paid at Wesleys, minus shipping. Thanks once more for your trouble.
No trouble. I was just killing time and found that by accident. I wasn’t sure where they were located.
The NTSU “Menthol” is not much of any menthol, that I can tell.
My latest order of NTSU has arrived today. I’ve ordered 20 tins each of Natural and Menthol but only received 10 of each. Seems as if we have rattled Wesley’s on this one!! So far I’ve received requests from 10 members only, so I will be able to comply and will mail them on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. I’m a bit careful to hand in all the packages together, the postal “officials” might become suspicious and start inspecting the parcels. Just once more: PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT TO USE THIS SNUFF UNTIL IT’S BEEN AIRED FOR AT LEAST 24 HOURS. THE DRIER IT IS, THE NICER IT BECOMES. You should actually allow it to dry out completely. Only then does the real, nice tobacco flavour comes forward.
I often sell stuff on ebay, and plus I send my CDs out all over, I often walk into the post office with a bunch of packages. The last snuffs I mailed internationally, I just wrote “snuff tins” on the customs label. My fave SA snuffs(that I have had) are Magnet Peach, Singletons Super Menthol, Taxi Rock, Wilsons(SA) Menthol, Taxi Red, Taxi Blue. I really found the NTSU to not be bad, but I like all the aforementioned more. And the NTSU Menthol, is missing the menthol. I do like their containers though. But I like all the SA snuff containers.
Just to let you know, Snuffreviews now has the NTSU listed, if anyone wants to add a review of them.
I think it was Y2K… 9 years and 8 months late.
Both of the other forums I visit use Proboards. I’ve never seen issues on them.
Where do you buy NTSU? I love the stuff!
Look in the FAQ under “shops.” Wesley’s in South Africa sells it. A member also posted a link from a store in England that carries it ( not a tobacco store but an import shop that sells others SA things for the SA community in Britain). I don’t remember the name of it. Someone perhaps will repost the link. Alternatly, you can find a snuffhouse member from South Africa who might be willing to trade, which is what I did.
He he - so did I, but I want MORE :o))))))
Checked the list, but no Wesley’s as far as I could tell? Do you have a link?
@ Viking: here is the other place you can order Ntsu. Down South Group I found it further up in this thread. Myabe it is located in South Africa. I saw the prices in British pounds.
Xander> Great! Thanks a lot, will check it out inmmediately!
SNuffgrinder> Thanks a lot too!! Will check that out too. I’ve completely fallen for Levi Garrett’s Scotch!
Aah too bad! There seems to be no one selling Levi Garrett Scotch anymore! Tom doesn’t, and none of the South African sites carry it :o(
The NTSU looks affordable Xander! Will order some today.
Its more than affordable, its cheap! I’m sure Tom will restock Levi Garrett in the near future. I wouldn’t think a South African site would carry it. However, everything seems to point to W.E. Garrett being the same thing as Levi. That one is easy to come by. I can buy it locally if I walk 6 blocks!
I didn’t see anyone ask this earlier in the thread, so if I missed it and this is a double post, I’ll edit it out. What is the proper pronunciation of NTSU? Is the NTS part said like the end of the name Marantz, with a quick transition to an oo sound, or have I got it all wrong?
Unfortunately the Down South guys apparently only allow UK residents to register with them - so there goes my cheap NTSU :o(
Mr_Snuffypants, NTSU is the sound you make when you sneeze!!! LOL You say: Nnnntsoe . It’s a Zulu word meaning “spear” or “eagle”…sharp, strong, fast.
Ahh! Thanks Pieter! I was close. Was just going to call it “Wonderstuff” if I couldn’t get it right.
Man! This is depressing!! None of the online stores that sell NTSU will ship outside the UK apparently!!! What a downer!! :o(
Have you had Taxi? Personally, I thought it was very similar, and actually, I liked Taxi more. It’s available at Snuffstore which ships outside the UK.
I made a NTSU mix that is really good. 50/50 NTSU and Molens Choco Nice hit good chocolate flavor. Easy to take.
@Viking, there are 2 UK Shops shipping NTSU outside the UK:buy south africa onlineandbiltong2ubut the shipping charges of the second shop are high.
go get 'em Filek!
I m wondering why the ntsu snuff is listed in the category cosmetics in the second shop.
@didi78, it’s because it makes you feel so much younger.
right, after leaving the cigarettes behind me with snuff, i really feel much younger… brain cosmetics
Tried to leave the NTSU out to dry for a whole day. Cat is still there lurking! He he… :o)
Its cosmetics becuase it gives you “dookie face.”
I ordered 10 tins NTSU regular and 5 tins NTSU Menthol from Wesley’s in South Africa last week. The shipping was more than the snuff. I’m in the US and something I didn’t think of before was if customs will let it through. Did I just waste my money? It was only about $32.
Can someone please alleviate my ignorance and tell me what NTSU stands for??? Also, what makes is so darned awesome!?!?!
@BluntMasterJ NTSU means ‘Spear’ or ‘Eagle’ in Zulu.(?) It’s a mega-maxi gros grind and exceedingly moist and fluffy Snuff from South Africa. The Nicotine hit from it is interstellar!
@ BluntMaserJ, you did not read very far back on this thread did you, I’ll quote Pieter Claassen “You say: Nnnntsoe . It’s a Zulu word meaning “spear” or “eagle”…sharp, strong, fast.” Pieter is a South African, and he should know. It is high on the tobacco content, damp and if you can keep it in your noes it lingers.
@ snuffertony: It would have been cheaper to wait for Nicotine Rush to stock it. Probably faster too.
Maybe not, Xander. He only paid a little over $2 for each can of NTSU, shipping included.
@cstokes4, yes it comes cheap for US and UK citizens due to the exchange rate.
& Filek, I notice Buy South Africa has taken your photo of their site. Did you threaten them?
@ Pieter, I just approved a member from South Africa, FYI.
I must say that I am getting more and more fond of NTSU, especially the menthol, now that it has dried out somewhat. A fine nic hit and erm, unique flavour!
I just started working on a project this past weekend, snuffipedia.com. It’ll (will) basically be a link page, hopefully a useful place to that ties together existing snuff related websites, with almost no actual content of it’s own. I mention this here because I “borrowed” a picture of a collection I found on google. LET ME APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE! I’m sure it belongs to someone on this forum. I’m using it as a background image and I plan to replace it with an image of my own, I just haven’t taken one quite as nice yet!
Debbie, you can buy NTSU in London for 99 pence a tin!
Feel free to swipe the links from my site of course. That picture looks familiar but I’m not sure whose it is. Not mine anyway.
I think that photo belongs to Filek See #37 He just had a photo of his taken off a South African Shop Site. Read back on page 4 of this thread.
Yeah, Filek whispered me, no problems.
@ Mark I didn’t think he would mind. But it was his photo used of a commercial site that hurt!
I knew that picture had to belong to a member! I wasn’t really planning on mentioning the site until I had put more stuff on it. I have enough variety to make a decent picture, I just don’t have the time or space to set it up. Not to mention all the dogs (10 today) running around my house bumping into everything.
Lol, bad enough here with just two cats. Your site is coming along great.
@Xander Not really faster, just cheaper. Exchange rate charges included I paid $2.30 per tin. I believe Nicotine rush is charging $4.29, right?
Yes, cost another fortune for Dave and I to get it here. Working on a better source, but that may take some time.
Well, when I opened that first can of NTSU (Nnntsoe) I had NO idea that the “disease” would spread to such an extend. I think the manufacturers owe me because not in their wildest dreams could they imagine that their product would become so popular. Agree? Disagree?
Agree. You certainly found a diamond in the rough.
I agree. Pieter should get FREE NTSU from the manufacturer for life. He’s probably “sold” more cans than any of their salespersons.
Thanks for the compliment Chris but it was the Snuff House forum who actually detected the diamond. If I wasn’t urged on by a couple of members, I would never have ordered any Ntsu. When I opened that first tin, I smelled it and put it aside for a while. It took me quite a while to realize that this snuff is really “user friendly”. Now I use it every day. @bigmick: I was also thinking along those lines! LOL
Definitely agree - I hereby unofficially crown you King Pieter I of NTSU!!
I’ve “remade” some Ntsu. I’ve dried a tin of Ntsu on a piece of paper. I then ground it to super fine. To this I’ve added some fresh Ntsu to moisten it a bit and replace the ammonia. I now have a snuff which is easier to get up my nose.
Solera NTSU It does age like fine wine, or a nice hardwood. I think the company that makes it should make you the CEO. You could have Karoo Stof in international production and then retire as a millionaire.
I think they do owe you, Pieter. However it seems there is not much info on the enigmatic “M.L.P.” Or is that just the distrubutor?
@Pieter Claassen What did you use to grind it?
Bought some tins from Tom at Nicotine Rush that should hit my mailbox tomorrow. Thanks, Tom and Pieter you are off the hook now…LOL
Tom is now out of NTSU reg. That sure did go fast!
5 more Black & 5 more Menthol coming. May be quite a while before more are available. Dave has a few Menthol left and I think Mike is getting some. (not sure on this one) Check out nasalsnuffblog.com for the latest info. The Black & White from Dholakia is almost here! Tom
Thanks to NicotineRush.com I finally have been able to try this snuff. I am three days into it now and I do love the earthly hayfield smell. If I grew up on a farm I am sure it would take me back there. If you have not tried it take the plunge, you will not be disappointed. A couple things I have learned: Let it air out. I did four hours under some halogen lighting (three feet away, not directly under) spread out on a plate and the ammonia smell disappeared. I also ground it a little using my fingers, which makes it a little easier to get in the nose. Finally, this snuff more than any other will make me sneeze, in fact it is the only one in my rotation that does this. Don’t know why, but be prepared.
I picked up my package of NTSU that I ordered from Wesley’s in South Africa from the post office this morning. I got 10 tins regular and 5 menthol. I was wondering how it was going to make it through customs but Wesley wrote “gift” on the declarations tag! Don’t think it would have gone through with “tobacco” on it. I’ve been snuffing mostly the regular all morning, with a few pinches of menthol here and there, right out of the container, no drying it out or anything! The texture, moisture and look reminds me of F&T’s Santo Domingo or Princes, but there’s where all similarity ends. It’s very earthy tasting with a slight burn. I like the regular more than the menthol. Like the Santo Domingo and Princes, it is kind of clogging. I’ll have to do a little White to clear me up. LOL I have to say, I’m really enjoying it. I think have enough to last me quite a while!!! Maybe I’ll do a few trades on the trading pages. Then again, I don’t know, it’s gonna be hard to let go of this stuff!!
Packages go through fine with the terms “Snuff” or “Tobacco” on them.
I got an order from the UK snuff store last week and it said right on the customs label, snuff tobacco 8.
Yes, they go through fine, but its also alerting customs that you may owe tax on it. The flip side is, that they inspect random ones, and if you’ve lied, you owe tax and a fine.
I’m obviuosly confused about the new laws concerning importing tobacco to the US. Is that only from the UK to the US, and only if you use a credit card?
There are no new laws regarding this. Certain US credit card processers have seen fit to make their own rules about what they will allow to be bought and sold through their service. You can buy and sell tobacco between the US and UK just like always. Taxes and duties apply as before. If you want to do business with one of the UK merchants, I suggest you write to them. They will work with you from what I understand.
Thanks Xander for that clarification. I wonder why Wesley’s decided to write “gift” on the declarations tag instead of “snuff”. I paid for the snuff with my Visa bank card, which can be used for credit or debit. Is Visa one of the companies making their own rules?
never had a problem ordering tobacco with my visa card.
‘Gift’ on the customs form has nothing to do with your credit cards. It is simply a courtesy to you to save you from paying customs duty on your package
yes to what bakdor said. Visa is not making these rules as its not the card companies, its the card processing companies.
OK I get it now. So some shops in the UK are using card processing companies that are limiting credit card use to non tobacco products only, right? Why don’t they just change to a different processing company, or is it not that simple? And Wesley’s was trying to save me from paying customs duties. Good thing he didn’t get caught lying. You should have seen how that package was all taped up and double wrapped and very well packed…probably to keep the smell from escaping.
Sadly some of the long standing tobacco merchants are more set in their ways than Toque. Perhaps they will come around.
At Alcoholics Anonymous we say: “Change is the name of the game”!
I knew there had to be some fellow AA’s here! Pieter, I too am a friend of Bill W.
BTW Roderick. I like all your products that I’ve tried so far except for Lavender. I’m not a big Lavender fan, I guess.
@snuffertony, yes and of course of Dr Bob. My date of birth, in my new life, is 24/12/1993
Hats off to you guys. I’m still hung up on step 1 but I keep trying.
@Pieter I first got sober in June of '91 and stayed sober for 7.5 years, and then had a relapse. Lost my sponsor and didn’t get another, quit going to meetings, etc… I fumbled around for about 3 years and managed to put a year together and relapsed again. I got sober again March 4, 2002 and haven’t had a drink of alcohol since then but I had back surgery 2 years ago and started abusing pain medication, so I reset my sobriety date to April 7, 2009, went through an Intensive Outpatient Program and I’m back into the deal again. I have a great sponsor who I meet with once a week and we read out of the Big Book. Going to at least 3 AA meetings a week and still attend after-care once a week for the IOP. I’ll have 6 months again, free from any mind altering drugs, on October 7th! It feels good, REALLY good! Hang in there Spyro! Easy Does IT!
Thanks for the words of encouragement snuffertony. I just got out of a VA In-Patient program where I saw a lot of hard cases, mostly homeless Vietnam vets on their last leg. I’m a binger which is makes things very tricky for me. I can go weeks at a time without cravings or thoughts. Often I can have those few drinks and all is fine, but then I get that crazy kick when I can’t stop. But hey, I’m not licked yet. I’ll keep going back and working on it the best I can from where I’m at. God has done some amazing things in my life and I know his power is greater than anything life can toss my way. Things aren’t going to change overnight but one day at a time I can manage for now.
At last I’ve made contact with M.L.P. Distributors who handle the marketing of Ntsu snuff. They are not interested in marketing their snuff overseas because the demand in SA takes up their whole production. They don’t even sell directly to Wesley’s! That’s the bad news. What may be good news is that I can buy the stuff in Cape Town from a company called Cash and Carry. I will explore along those lines and see what I can do. M.L.P Dist will sell directly to me but then I will have to start a wholesalers company and buy in bulk.
I will have to start a wholesalers company and buy in bulk. So, what’s holding you up?
I found Ntsu just up the road, about one kilometre from my house, for almost half the price I pay at the tobaccoshop! No postage, no waiting for delivery, I can go there with my bike and collect the stuff. They stock Taxi as well at R2.70 a tin and I pay R4.00 at the shop. Unreal, I could hardly believe my eyes.
Awesome! My calculator says that is about 36 cents. You can’t buy anything in this country for 36 cents.
Ha! I couldn’t even buy a stamp for $0.36! If I found snuff that cheap I would clean them out.
Pieter, send me all they have!!! LOL
Tom, I’ve been thinking about this ever since I discovered this “treasure”. I just want to make sure with PayPal that I can receive money into my credit card account. If yes, I will let you know and we can work a deal. No sweat.
Taxi in the states??? WoooHooooo!
I phoned this shop, Metro Cash and Carry, to make sure they do have Ntsu in stock and…nothing! They will get some for me from another branch next week. Our local tobacco shop had 9 tins in stock and I grabbed all of them. I’m leaving on Wednesday morning for a LOOONG weekend, so the week after I will go to Metro C&C and sort things out.
Just noticed 30 in stock at Mr. Snuff today!!
I now have some lemon flavoured Ntsu! I dried a tin of this beast by leaving it in direct sunlight for a day. I then squeezed some juice from a freshly cut lemon directly into the snuff and closed the tin/box. I left it to absorb the juice for a couple of hours. The snuff is now moist again like when I received it with a lovely lemon taste. May I call this an SP Ntsu now?!!
@Pieter: I wonder if you could take the peels of an orange, lemon and grapefruit, turn them into a puree and extract the oil. Then add the oil to the NTSU and make a decent SP? Most SP’s are more than merely Bergamot.
here is something I want to try. I know with marinis the best way to add lemon or lime is to give it a burnt twist. You get a peel of lemon or lime (works with orange too good for manhattans) lite a match and then fold the peel in so that the oil sprays out through the match flame and towards the drink. It works really well with booze wonder if it would work with snuff.
@Bob, I’ve done that with Mandarin peels! I used Toque Natural and the result was one delicious Mandarin snuff. Just don’t be afraid to apply the “juice” generously. Leave it sealed up in a glass jar with screw top for a couple of days to settle.
@Chris, I’ve never tried that before, so I would not know how to extract the oil. If it’s posible to do so, I’m sure the consentrated oil will be a perfect flavouring agent.
Uh oh, Dr. Pieter is going into the labratory again. Will he create a marvel or a monster?
@Xander, it’s 3.10am here and I’m still snuffing and snussing! I can tell you, some fresh lemon juice with the Ntsu enhances the tobacco flavour in a way that you won’t believe. This will be a permanent with me, that’s for sure. What is a “labratory” please?
I think he meant Laboratory. It’s where a scientist does his experiments! I thought that once you had the puree from the peels, the liquid could be filtered out and added to the snuff. Or maybe peels boiled in water then reduced to a concentrate would work.
Did I spell that wrong? Very sorry. I meant “laboratory”. A “lab” for short. A place where a scientist does experiments and mad scientists create monsters.
Cstokes for the win
which brings up this question what universities have a good degree in “Mad Sciencestry”???
My hair is so long at present, my wife says I look like Einstein. So, I won’t have it cut for at least another week!! I don’t mind looking like Einstein at all.
I like this!! Are we in a chatroom now?
lemon juice, …tasty, but that could irritate the nasal mucosa in the long run…
ah yes. recreational chemistry. I was known in college as “Hey guys, do you think this is safe to smoke out of?” Back to the topic at hand, do you think the lemon juice ups the pH enough to increase nicotine uptake?
@zonesix, yes it does increase the release of nicotine considerably! I’m going to play around with the lemon juice, add some to other snuff as well.
The addition of fresh lemon juice really brings out the tobacco flavour. I added about one teaspoon of juice to a full tin of snuff.
Increasing the release of nicotine in NTSU? You must be mad.
That’s what I was thinking, but I’ll bet it’s not as drastic as that whole baking soda debacle a while back would have made it.
Now that I think about it, lemon juice might actually tame it. Lemon juice is an acid which would neutralize or partially neutralize the alkalinity of Ntsu (or baking soda). I’m not a chemist - I can’t test that theory; it’s just something that occured to me.
@Xander, after 24 hours, the lemon flavour has gone completely. What I’ve got now is snuff without any barn yard smell, only PURE, natural tobacco aroma. And the nic kick is higher, that’s for sure. I’m not a chemist either, so I can’t explain it. I think all the ammonia in Ntsu gives one quite a big kick as well. So it might smell stronger than it really is. Now that the ammonia and barn yard smells are gone, this is a totally different snuff.
I’ve just now taken another pinch of my “new” Ntsu to make sure I’m not bluffing myself. The flavour/aroma/taste is definitally much nicer and the nicotine kick is higher and longer lasting.
Interesting Pieter! I admire how you just don’t post a discovery and that’s it. You really are a scientist, always looking at an experiment from different angles,coming back to it a few days later to re-look your hypothesis, post new observations! Well done!
I had to order this stuff considering the rave it had here and all the praise it has but I got it and almost died. The initial thought was that I had a neat little plastic jar that would of course keep the stuff fresh as hell. Then I opened it up. Well If you can imagine a litter box that hasn’t been changed in say 6 years with a dozen cats using it consistently for that time period, was the vile sludge that was in this plastic jar. Just vile stuff ammonia from a company thats main products were industrial drain cleaner and nuclear waste. This stuff IS FREAKING AWESOME. If this seems a little obscure it is because I currently have enough nicotine to kill the entire world population of insects and small children pumping through my blood. So despite the potency of the ammonia i let it into my nostrils and the ammonia went away ish. I took the advice of some others here and let the stuff air out and holy crappy pants its bleeding amazing. Fantastic stuff it should be mandatory snuffing for all youngsters of snuff. Strong and if I could give you an idea of who would use the product would be John Wayne, its superb strong and will knock you on your ass and back again in the nicotine department, if there was such a thing as nicotine deficiency the main treatment would be this wonderful medicine.
so far I think the stuff is crap… I will let it air out and give it another whirl, but right now I think the smell is to unpleasant…
Let the stuff air out. It is bleeding amazing once aired out. Really nasty but once aired out amazing.
I took the lid off a few mins ago… how many days should it air out, LOL
What I did to take the ammonia out was to spread out the snuff on a plate. This only took maybe 3 hours its not really that potent. I know what you mean I thought how many weeks is this stuff going to be bearable but it isn’t too bad nice turnaround.
NTSU REVIEW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\\_pdLaw5fvGE
ok, well i let it out on a plate over night completely dried out ‘o well’ gave it a pinch no nasty smell… From what i can detect, then again I dont know if my smeller was destroy yet by the toxic smell the night before… I fail to detect any flavor other then straight tobacco with a little punch of nic running through the veins… I will keep trying to give this one a fair hand… @ mrmmaroOn funny stuff!!!
I dried mine out, but then wished I hadn’t. I later added some water and stirred it up. Seems to have restored it somewhat, but I wish I didn’t mess with it at all. I too often try to “improve” a snuff, but I usually end up wishing I had just let it be.
I enjoy the safari that comes along with the SA snuffs.
I’ve spoken to the NTSU people again today. I first “met” Denise a while ago. Today I “met” Jenny who is the CEO’s secretary. The boss is mr Patel but he was out for the day and will call me on Monday.
Why am I not surprised that you “met” a few ladies today!
What are you trying to do, Pieter? Buy the company?
@alexr. I also take my NTSU nice and moist, loads of ammonia, straight from the container, but cant take that much. Managed a container in 3 days but ended up with a sore nose. Any way around this problem, or do I just have to grit my teeth and persevere?
The ammonia in that amount seems to irritate, I’ve noticed the same thing with all South African snuff, though NTSU is most potent, not much that can be done about it I think. But then again, there are other, gentler snuffs. NTSU is for when you need to take the nicotine monkey out behind the barn and beat him, not just hold him at bay.
Yes, I believe there are solutions for gluttony. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
I find the Singleton’s Menthol (South African made in the round green container) almost packs as much nicotine as the NTSU. Instead of O&G I now use the Singleton’s as an eye opener early in the morning. It’s hair raising stuff!
Hi Pieter- My name is Tommy, and i am from Zimbabwe we have started to contract grow SNUS here and wanted to find out about turning it into SUFF for the local african market, would you have any idea where i can get info on tequniques to manufacture SNUFF? also what type of snuff is for the SA african market?
I love ntsu. NTSU is awesome. I hate ammonia in snuff but it goes so well with NTSU. Yes NTSU smells like a farm but in more ways then poopy. I also has a nice rich dirt scent which you get when a field is tilled. It’s strength is wonderfull too not that it’s head spinningly strong (am I strange?) but it holds and a slightly smaller pinch will give you the normal levels of nic but again it holds. I like this one a whole hell of a lot. I definatly recommend trying this one.
Just wanted to add I really like NTSU when it’s dried out a bit and doesn’t have the ammonia. It definatly is more earthy and less poopy. Plus it sticks in the nose better. Also I really hate the ammonia something tells me it’s not a healthy thing to snuff. Just wanted to add that I really like this one a lot but next tin I’am airing out before I start sticking it in my nose.
I am a South African, and Ntsu is the Tswana word for eagle, and I know why, because it makes you fly high like eagle.
Glad to find this thread about NTSU black. I’m new to snuff but I started with NTSU black because I’m from South Africa and use it as my regular snuff. The nicotine fix is much more pronounced when placed between the lip and gum and for that you will only need a tiny amount (about the same amount as you would sniff). Now when it comes to taking it nasally I have a quick suggestion if any of you would like to try. I’ve used many methods but the one that gives me the best results nasally is the following: Use your thumb or any finger to press down with a bit of force into the container and you will notice a nice spread of fine specks sticking to the thumb/finger. If it does not happen on the first press, try pressing a few more times. Now bring it to the nostril and sniff like you a smelling a flower. I feel that when you take a pinch of it and try sniffing it, the moistness makes it cling together and that could fall out the nose- same with a snuff spoon. Just my opinion. Peace
I never air out ammonia. Like every snuff, NTSU Black is most beautiful at its freshest. Sometimes I even get schmalzleresque fruitiness with larger pinches. Blends nicely with Taxi Red (1:1) and can be scented easily.
Love these old threads.
@volunge I really noticed my NTSU Green had a similar taste as my Klostermischung, glad I’m not the only one that notices the similarities between schmalzlers and NTSU! I wasn’t sure if it was the tobacco base, or what - but I said to myself, “Why does this NTSU Green seem so familiar now?” and I realized it was the Bernard’s!!! Hah!
Also, to echo what you said, without ammonia these snuffs are dead.
I’m finding pressing down the snuff in the plastic tin and keeping it as compressed as possible definitely hhelps keep the ammonia freshness and moisture locked in. Damn is NTSU good, there’s nothing like it period (well, except the Taxi snuffs, but this has a much harder nic kick IMO)