No flavor! Where's the Nicotine? Ya'll are Nutz!

hehe Yeah yeah, one o’ the new guys. Really new. I’ve been playing with snuff for a total of 'bout 2 weeks now. New guy. I’ve asked a couple questions, read and re-read alot of threads here and elsewhere, articles, reviews, videos. I really wanted to add snuff to my arsenal against smoking. Hmm, what’s with all this talk of flavor from something that goes up your nose? BBQ, smokey, citrus, chocolate, fruity. I need nicotine. Some say this snuff is high nic, that snuff will blow your head off, yada yada yada. So I get a tin of Toque Chocolate and a bullet of Toque Honey/Whiskey. Reviews for these made 'em seem like good starters. Over the last 2 weeks I’ve gotten a good handle on technique, taking a pinch, sniff instead of snort. I’m getting no flavor. I am not getting any nicotine. WTF Either I’m doing something really wrong, or the snuff I got is crap, or all you snuff aficionados and connoisseurs are a bunch of self deluded sheep! Do I apologize now or later for firmly believing the deluded thing to be the case? Received an order today. Honey Bee, Garrett Sweet, WoS Chocolate/Orange, WoS Tom Buck and Dholakia Swiss Chocolate. Haven’t gotten around to the Honey Bee or the Chocolate/Orange yet, tomorrow when I can better appreciate them. I did though immediately try the Dholakia, then blew and rinsed and tried the Tom Buck, and blew and rinsed and tried the Garrett Sweet and… Oh! I taste… freaking chocolate! Ohhh, that’s the nose burn ya’ll are talking about. Yes, yes indeed that would be described as BBQ and Smokey and I really am tasting stuff and ooooop, found the nicotine! I did nothing different this evening with the exception of using different snuff. Apparently the 2 Toques don’t cut it for me. I have not experienced a nicotine buzz since that first portion of General Ekstra Sterk. Least the buzz that hit me tonight tasted good! I do apologize for thinking you were all a bunch of deluded sheep. Sincerely apologize. I have seen a light and it sez “Snuff Here”!

Snuff Rocks!!! but i did like "Either I’m doing something really wrong, or the snuff I got is crap, or all you snuff aficionados and connoisseurs are a bunch of self deluded sheep!"

BAAAA BAAA and welcome get yourself some Rooster snuff :wink:

Perhaps the anal method would work better for you. Signed, A deluded little lamb

@Premium I will try Rooster some time, it’ll be awhile though :slight_smile: @kjoerup This was intended as a fun, kind of laugh at the new guy thread…

HahaLOl! I understand a bit of what you’re talking about from when I quit smoking. You don’t get the harsh jumpstart like you do from cigs it seems. Snuff’s more enjoyable and even-keeled for me and there are a couple varieties available that can still kick your hind quarters in that way, if that’s what you’re looking for.

@OTD Glad to see you found something that works for you. I’ll take the Toques (and anything else you don’t like) off your hands if you don’t want them. :smiley:

@OTD I got the joke. I hope you got my deadpan humor. :slight_smile:

@bart Those 1st Toques didn’t do anything for me but now that I apparently have snuff with substance everything I’ve been reading starts to make sense @Psycho I’ll keep ya in mind bud, but I can always use 'em for mixing on down the road!

Toque (all of them) has plenty of nicotine. How many sterks are you snussing? It sounds like your nicotine tolerance is quite high. This is the reason I gave up snus. It got me off the cigs, but I found that the more I used snus, the more my nicotine dependence accelerated. After a while, I was in need of more nicotine with snus than I ever was with cigarettes.

I’m a nicotine mainliner, with a fair tolerance to nicotine. When I first came, I gave my standard, I want nicotine speech. I couldn’t understand using any tobacco for any other reason. I smoke 1792 in the morning, the evening and weekends, and snuff on top of that, especially during the day. Snuff has nicotine, some deliver more than others, the finer the higher the rate of delivery, but, the main reason I know I’m getting it is that I rarely have withdrawals. I smoke less, and am more relaxed when I do. Sometimes I don’t smoke but one bowl, when I’d have some pipe going pretty much all the time when I’m awake. If I wanted, I could quit smoking. So, while I don’t get those 1792, rope, Dark Flake spikes, the snuff is definitely delivering nicotine, and much to my surprise, as Xander and somebody else said, I don’t worry about it anymore. I have other snuff issues to care about now, and that says a lot.

@kjoerup I rarely use snus that’s more than 11mg/portion, no los. Primarily 8mg portions. The General ES was given away after the 3rd portion! Too much. As for nic tolerance I don’t know. It could be on the high side of things. I quit smoking using e-cigs, 36mg liquid is what it took, then snus put the vaping in the background with respect to nic and enjoyment. Those Toques, I could not discern any nic at all. I really got no sense of flavor either. I have looked at a few threads regarding snuff storage and so on, is it possible that I got “old” or improperly stored product? Of the 3 new ones I’ve tried tonight, all 3 had their distinct flavors, and plenty of it. My time spent using e-cigs has me attuned to the presence of nicotine in a product and again, the 3 I’ve tried tonight all deliver the nic. Whoo, specially the Garrett! Bottom line is, my hopes to include snuff have been re-affirmed as valid and worth pursuing! ya’ll will have opportunities to laugh at my newness in the future, promise :slight_smile:

OTD…I am just as new to snuff as you are! One could say we grew up together on snuff street! So far in my travels the American Sweets deliver “Big Time” nicotine(the Scotches more so)…stick with what cures you! I still use my e-ciggs as much as I used to before snuff(although at reduced nic levels),so the snuffs(such as Toque)that arn’t working for you still work for me in the nic department. Bottom line is…If I am going to laugh at your “newness” I’ll be laughing at myself as well!! Have fun and enjoy our new found world!! :slight_smile: The Wiz!

hehe, I really like that first post! :slight_smile: As for the Toques… well, there are nearly 40 differents snuffs from them and although I´d say by now that it´s become my favourite snuff company, I do not cherish 100% of the range. Tastes are just different, and thats´s a pretty good thing. There´ll be more than enough others you´d like more, looking for them is half of the fun. (I´d highly recommend the Toque Quit!!!)

I have a high tolerance. I smoked 2 packs of cigs a day, I still chain snus and use 2-3 sterks and 2 extra sterks a day. It took me about 2 weeks of using snuff before I began to notice the nicotine from it. I believe it takes our brains a while to realize the nic is coming from a new place, and how to process that info. I still can’t notice much difference in nicotine levels in most snuff. Taxi and NTSU are exceptions. Or maybe I just shove so much of those in my nose at once …

@Red star Taste is certainly subjective, and agreed wholeheartedly that’s a good thing! Lends to the need for the variety that’s available. Admittedly, I only tried 2 of the many varieties Toque has to offer. In time I’ve no doubt I’ll try others but for now I’ll follow what’s working! @bigmick I don’t really care for any of the sterks. N@J Black at 11mg per portion is as strong as I go and at that only 1 portion a day. I generally use 5 to 7 portions a day, 8mg, and I take occasional hits off of my e-cig. I know a few others that describe their snussing along the lines that you do. One has a line that goes something like, “24 hours in a day, 24 portions in a can, coincidence?” :slight_smile: Anyway, I am much more nic tolerant that a lot of folks I’m sure. What ever the case, last nights new snuff delivery was truly my snuff epiphany! There is flavor to be had and enjoyed. There is nicotine to slake the savage addiction. Those who have gone before me do indeed know that of which they speak and I, I now have the ears with which to listen. Yeah I’m full of it at times but I just tried out my first bit of WoS Chocolate/Orange and I R happy…

When i first started out i bought myself three different tins of poschl snuff , right off the bat. I asked the lady at the smoke shop what flavor they were and she said: lemon , apricot and menthol. Ok the “lemon” was menthol. The apricot …menthol. The menthol…menthol. Well whatever i said , i was sort of disappointed in buying three different types and all of them being the same. A few weeks later , after neglecting them a bit , i found the “lemon” was actually aniseed and menthol. The apricot actually had a huge apricot taste to it , next to the menthol. And the menthol …well that was actually just menthol. Point is: you’ll discern flavors better as time passes by , and it’s not that you’ll be able to identify them better , you’re actually going to _feel them_ better , guess tobacco is something your nose has to get adjusted to at first. As far as the nic goes. It took me quite some time to realize that it’s there , it’s not the same feeling as smoking or snusing for sure , and not the same amount. But over time you’ll see you can “feel” it’s there and to what extent. Now I’m pretty much a tobacco fiend so I have a pretty high tolerance, on a bad day it’s possible to see me sporting a double barrel thunder/general extra strong so snuff doesn’t really keep my cravings at bay for long , but i can feel the nicotine , and it’s habit forming that’s for sure :).

Try some Rooster! It’s those sterks messing with your tolerance. Try to dial it down a bit, you will find it a bit more pleasurable IMHO! Baaa.

“Point is: you’ll discern flavors better as time passes by …” I’ll second that.

I’ve no doubt the capacity to discern flavor will improve in time. That’s exactly what happened with snus. Those Toques have been tucked back for that later time. Their just bland compared to the Honey Bee and Tom Buck I’m currently enjoying. You folks keep telling me to try the Rooster. I don’t know. Now that I see how valid the various reviews actually are, well, those same reviews make Rooster sound to be some scary stuff!