Ive run out of snuff and need it now. Kind of panic. Is there some Europe site that offer fast shipping?
Can someone sell me some Taxi red maybe?
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Before the quarantine, snuff.me.uk used to be the fastest supplier. All my orders arrived in 5 business days. They don’t have SA snuffs, but you can try F&T Princes and Santo Domingo.
On the other hand, it’s the right time for trying your hand at making your own snuff. If you are in Sweden, you can use snussats - tobacco is already ground in them, all you need to do is add sodium carbonate and salt, dissolved in water, and thoroughly mix. You can start using it next morning. Sure, it will taste better and deliver more nicotine after a few days and will definitely become better with time.
If you like coarse grind, order coarse (grov) snussat. They are ridiculously cheap, prices of 1 kg raw tobacco flour starts at 205 kr (19.33 EUR), you can make about 1.6 kg moist plain snuff (with 31% moisture content) from it (1000 g of tobacco, 500 g of water, 65 g of sodium carbonate, 50 g of salt; in percents: 62% tobacco, 31% water, 4% sodium carbonate, 3% salt.
MAKING SNUFF IS SUPER EASY, MUCH EASIER THAN MAKING SNUS!
You’ll be surprised how good your own homemade is.
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https://www.snusbolaget.se/gora-eget-snus/snussatser-los/#p=2
Read the descriptions and check nicotine content. You can use filter and choose Extra Strong and Starkt flour.
If you decide to order coarse flour (grov) and find it too coarse, use mortar and pestle to grind it finer to your liking. Make small batch first (10-100 g).
Just a few examples:
@volunge just mix it and let it sit or? What temp of water?
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If you need something right now and can’t wait, get a can of los snus (say, Ettan Los or Grov Los), spread it on a baking sheet, reduce the moisture at low temperature in the oven, regrind with a spoon - that’s it. Ingredient-wise it’s the same as nasal snuff; the only difference is higher moisture content and glycerol (which is rarely used for nasal snuff), but it doesn’t impart the taste, taken nasally. I have tried it, it’s ok.
Worth checking Ettan Original Portion, it’s glycerol-free, contains more sodium carbonate than los version and should deliver more nicotine. It does contain some propylene glycol (just like los), but the amount present is close to that of some German nasal snuffs. Moisture content is similar to fresh South African snuffs, but the texture is somewhat more messy. Tear apart portion, pour out the tobacco and take a pinch. Don’t hesitate, Swedish snus is safer than nasal snuff. If you find the tobacco in Ettan Original Portions too moist and messy, reduce the moisture in the oven and grind it finer. Just don’t dry out all the moisture completely.
You can check the ingredients of Swedish Match snus here: https://www.swedishmatch.com/Our-business/smokefree/Ingredients-in-snus/ and compare with nasal snuff composition: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTfVlO6mal6dVhw8jFVMPx5VIW1wWoLyHO3j2zXON\_BzXT5GywSASHmfiOEaoF2nQBsuhqEKSS41c0C/pubhtml?gid=0&single=true (take a glance at "Gekach [=Gekachelter Virginie] column, it’s plain and very simple snuff with medium nicotine content, and compare it with Ettan Original Portion composition, using the first link above).
This is your fastest option. Or simply use snus as intended, in the lip. Best sub for snuff.
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nevermind
@dasr, yes, dissolve sodium carbonate and salt in warm water (you don’t need to measure temp) and simply mix it with the tobacco flour, following the ratio in my first reply. Mix it well, it takes time; repeat mixing several times in the course of the first day for best result. I find it absolutely enjoyable after two days, and like I said before, it gets better with the time; I always start consuming it in the next morning, when it’s still tastes somewhat raw (ammonia is already there, tho). You can try different proportions of water (10-35%), salt (0-6%) and sodium carbonate (2-10%). If you don’t have sodium carbonate, get sodium bicarbonate and convert it to sodium carbonate in an oven (30 minutes in preheated oven at 220 C does the full conversion, it’s 100% reliable and used by many, including myself).
Using precision scales is a must! 0.1 g precision is enough; for small batches and adding flavours/menthol, opt for 0.01 g ones.
Keeping moist coarse snuff warm for the first 2-4 days makes it darken (“black”). 40-55 C.
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These two Swedish stores carry some nasal snuff, but it’s probably dried-out.
https://www.nettotobak.com/snus/luktsnus/
https://www.snusbolaget.se/snus/snuff-och-tuggtobak/
No paraffin in Kownoer, you can buy it here: https://www.snuff.me.uk/Bernard-Snuff.asp , http://www.snuffstore.co.uk/bernard-feinster-kownoer-10g-p-502.
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Yea I know they suck
While on the topic, I have a question @volunge . I have an old pack of American Spirit Perique cigarettes from before I quit smoking. I was thinking of grinding down the tobacco for snuff. Would the tobacco already be alkalized if it is coming from cigarettes? Also, just because I have it on hand, what percentage of sodium bicarbonate/ baking soda and water could I use. If scenting it with bergamot, would I put the essential oil directly in or use a method to indirectly scent it?
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@boiledonions, according to BMEL data, NAS Perique cigarettes are additives-free, made of pure tobacco (at least those, sold in Germany). You need to alkalize it and add a dash of salt.
I haven’t tried sodium bicarbonate as alkalizer yet, only carbonate. I’m afraid bicarbonate might impair the taste of snuff (I’m not too fond of baking powder taste, old childhood trauma of mine - granny’s pancakes…). Bicarbonates are weaker alkalizers (max pH is 8.27; the aim is to achieve at least 8.4) than carbonates and are rarely used as standalone pH modifiers for snuff. You can easily convert sodium/potassium bicarbonate to carbonate. Compare pH: https://www.aqion.de/site/191 .
After trying different tobacco, water, sodium carbonate/potassium carbonate and salt ratios, I came to a conclusion that 4% of sodium carbonate is my happy mean. Salt - anywhere from 2 to 4%. Water - 20-35%. Higher moisture (25-35%) speeds up “fermentation”. Here I’m referring to “fast snuff” only - the one which turns enjoyable in a mere three days. Higher amounts of alkalizers facilitates faster nicotine uptake, but result in sharper nose burn, extra drip and the loss of natural tobacco aroma (when air cured leaf used). Too much salt adds to the nose burn and causes nasty drip. Lower amounts of alkalizer, as well as lower moisture, does the trick only in prolonged maturation, which takes months. Many recipes of “slow snuffs” call for the addition of ammonium chloride, which I find unnnecessary for a “three-days wonder”. I’m really tempted to procure a small 1 l oaken pickling cask and finally run my first “large” batch, properly ageing snuff for 6-9 months.
Essential oils are added directly, either mixed into the alkaline sauce or thinned with a small amount of 95-96% ethanol, if added to ready-made snuff (you’ll need to air the ethanol out after scenting). 1 ml (20 drops) for 100 g of snuff. I would start with 1 drop of oil (thinned with 1 ml ethanol for easier mixing) per 10 g of ready-made snuff.
Awesome! Thanks @volunge . I will run a small test batch this week and keep you posted on results
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@volunge Stuffed my cheeks full of knox dark snus. Sent my heads spinning 100miles per hourr in the stars. Oh Lord I will survive I will survive Ma Maam is here with me
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Snus is good. Sounds like you just got a new “hobby” ;). Variety is astounding, it takes some good time to explore them all. Try Makla Ifrikia someday, it tastes different, but hits harder than extreme snus.
@volunge Thank God some snuff has arrived. Someone said best to avoid South African Singleton
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Please tell more about that SA Singleton, once you try it. Very curious about this one. How’s the grind, colour, moisture, menthol and nic level etc. Also interested to know, how long did the shipping take?
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Ok Im not very good at describing but it seems typical South African. On the coarser side. Nice strong tobacco taste. Menthol is nice not too much. A bit drier than the other ones I should say and a bit finer grind. Seems strong nicotine and it took 10 days.
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Thanks, @dasr! I wasn’t sure if it’s typical SA, or more akin to lighter British mentholated snuffs, so hesitated at ordering it.
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@Volunge Im not very familiar with british snuffs. Its probably close to them too. Something inbetween maybe. But anyway its very good. I tried Sir Walter Scotts Ramon Pane and somehow reminds me of that but it was some time ago I had that. Obviously without the menthol.Â