Which do you prefer? For me I’m leaning strongly towards F&T. It seems more mysterious and complex. Its truly a snuff of majesty! I can pull lemon & bergamot out of the Wilson’s and maybe some lavender & rose. The F&T refuses to reveal its secrets though. Perhaps it is blended more thouroghly.

I have found they are not comparable. The Wilsons version is more like a very flavoursome SP, whilst the F&T is a perfumed snuff. Like them both for different reasons.

F&T. No contest. I bought the Wilson’s after trying the F&T hoping they were similar. The F&T is just , well, smoother and more well rounded.

You have a point, Sandy. The Wilson’s is very SP-like. Its not bad of course, but I was a little let down too like bigmick was, buying on the name.

The dilemma that’s facing me now is WOS French Carotte v. F&T.

I haven’t tried any F&T. But i recently tried the WoS Morlaix and I have to say it’s in league of it’s own - but then I’m a newbie, what do I know? lol

The whole F&T range are in a leauge of their own. Exquisite snuffs!

but isn’t F&T made by WoS?

They are made by Wilson’s, but are made with a different recipe. Wilson’s Irish High Dry Toast is very different than FT High Dry Toast. The same goes with many of the blends with the same name.

Neither are anything like the genuine Morlaix I used to buy in France. Unless I stand to be corrected real French Morlaix is no longer made. The closest snuff is London Brown by Samuel Gawith - an inappropriate name for such a Gallic tasting offering. This is - to the fake Morlaix versions by Sharrow or FT - what Gauloises is to Marlboro. That said the Wilson’s version is, for a scented snuff, more acceptable than most. Although the very strong tobacco taste and coarse grind of London Brown is similar to Morlaix it is moister and has a tendency to clump. As with all such snuffs an even texture may be achieved - not by drying - but by a very small addition of unscented SP - voilà! très bien!

Thank you for that tip, PhilipS. I will now add London Brown to my wish list.

London Brown is a great snuff.

I’ve only ever had the F&T. Would you guys say the Wilson’s is worth an order?

I like it.

The Wilson’s is good, very good in fact, but like sandy said above, its not entirely comparable.

I just recieved a packet of F and T Morlaix. so far the smell is a little off putting, like make up. wonderfully smooth in the aroma department, not as floral as i thought it would be, which is good.

Well saucy, if things don’t work out for you and that snuff, I’d gladly take it off your hands…though, I’m sure you may actually grow to like it.

I’ve received a tin of Morlaix with my discount order from Wilsons. This is a wonderful snuff for me. Although it’s a floral snuff, I can and do take it all day long. I’ve never tasted the F&T Morlaix but according to reviews, the floral notes are more intense than in the WoS. I’m not really a floral fan although I do like to have it from time to time. My problem is that I only ordered a medium sized tin and it’s not going to last much longer. What should I do, order the F&T or some more WoS? Or Both?

Both. The Wilsons version is a more everyday snuff (rose and citrus as I recall), whilst the F&T version is an occasional and excellent “dandy” snuff.

never had the wilsons the F&T is the best diaper scented snuff ever made. It’s a damn fine snuff. Though it does have a bit of a talcium powder scent. Wonderfull stuff.

Well I detected no diapers, old women’s make up or toddlers powder in my F&T Morlaix that I just received *lol* (Doesn’t mean of course that the above mentioned items aren’t there!) I really like this snuff, it is fresh, reminding of Bordeaux, but not as heavy, and definitely some Neroli essence there too. It also reminds me of W&S Jockey Club - maybe it’s some vague cinnamon I sense? This is not high in nicotine, but it is extremely easy to take, and very pleasant, though not as long lasting as some other F&Ts are. I like to pinch this if I can’t sleep at night. Good for relaxation - reading and the like.

My wish list is growing too. From the forgoing I’m pretty sure my Morlaix order will be F&T. Can someone compare it to something else, say, F&T French Carotte? Are they comparable at all? I’m just trying to get a handle on what to expect and how much urgency to place on the order.

Got a few F&T coming from MrSnuff, should be here Monday or Tuesday. Of cource I just looked at my order, didn’t order any morlaix. edm

@ddavelarsen I would compare FT Morleix to baby powder that’s the best comparison IMO don’t try and compare it any other f&t because it’s quite unique. Not my favorite but Xander loves it if I recall…

I was surprised to see that only one reviewer of this one thought he detected sandlewood. My nose is not highly educated or discriminating, but I think sandlewood is there. I much prefer the far less scented sorts, but of the F&T range this is the one where the strong scenting works best for me. Soothing stuff. Aroma therapy.

@giaach: Yep. I love the F&T version. I’ve got a full pound of it cellared.

@xander Did you buy it in bulk, or do you have a bunch of their large tins? I don’t think I’ve seen or heard of F&T in bulk.

Yes, I bought it in bulk. Though I do have several medium tubes around. It was on close-out at Tobacco Supermarket, when they liquidated their snuff stock prior to the implementation of PACT. However, I think you can order directly from Wilsons any of the F&T snuffs in bulk, and probably Mr. Snuff as well.

Interesting to note, I was aware that the rivals of J & H Wilson - Wilson’s & Co are now making this. J & H Wilson bought the rights to making this in the 80’s, I can remember it was not a favourite job mixing the F & T as it was all hand flavoured and very fiddly to get into the little screw top tins!

gillybean129 Nice to have you here. very interested to know whether you remember, roughly, the recipe for this one at that time.

I don’t recall the F & T recipes, though we would have had them. I just remember it being very fiddly and we didn’t sell that much compared to the J & H brands as I suspect F &T were very expensive brands at the time…

gillybean129 This is very interesting. I’d be interested to know whether you as a former snuff maker use snuff yourself and if so what sort or sorts you prefer. Are you a J&H man/woman perhaps?

I am a woman, I worked in the office at Westbrook Mill, Sheffield and I don’t take snuff! Although I must of inhaled loads in the course of my work in and out of the mill all day!!! Young no, alas I was 16 when I started there in 1978 so I’ll leave you to do the maths!

@gillybean129 , no snuff? What in tarnation! LoL , just jokin’. How come you never got into it, gilly? I’m guessing you’ve tried some JH Wilsons once or twice, though, eh? I’m just curious…

I always thought it was a habit for ‘older’ people like my grandad, and to be honest I didn’t enjoy the experience not to say I didn’t enjoy the flavours in the flavour room or enjoy the many aromas in the mill, Otto de Rose and Aniseed were my favourites! I can remember the Otto de Rose flavour was hundreds of pounds for a tiny bottle as it derived from rose petals…

@gillybean129: Was it you that wrote the ‘Phantoms of Sheffield’ article in the latest issue of STE? If so, thank you, I really enjoyed it! (btw I’m another woman!)

Yes, Yes it was me!!! I was asked by Robert at the Snuff Takers Ephemeris to write I am always surprised when people find snuff interesting! I have just sent some more writing to them for the next issue, I am glad you enjoyed it and you can be sure it was all very true! A lady snuff taker eh? We had a few who insisted on their packages being sent in plain wrapping paper so no one knew of their habit why I don’t know, like it was a secret of theirs! Toffeenose are you from the UK or USA?

Wow, talk about super-concentrated! Yeah I’m sure the flavor room had some interesting, and potent, scents floating around. You’re lucky to have had what many around here would consider a dream job! I wouldn’t mind having the job of testing snuffs for quality control purposes…hahaha…getting paid to snuff all day! Did such a position exist at the mill you worked at, gillybean??

@Toffeenose: I was going to ask that same question! @Gillybean129: Thanks for that article, it was very entertaining. I like snuff and I like ghost stories so it was a great combination for me!

Way cool @gillybean129! Another person actually involved in making snuff! What a dream job that would be. I can imagine all the wonderful scents lingering around; just opening my snuff drawer is an aromatic thrill for me… Can you divulge how the rose scent was applied to the snuff? Mixed in with the flour, left to absorb the aroma, what? I understand if you can’t let that info out, but I like to try to make my own snuff from time to time and knowing how these wonderful old snuffs were made can only help to improve my lame efforts.

@gillybean129: I wouldn’t say I was quite a lady, but yes, I do like my snuff! I’m from the UK, London to be precise. I look forward to reading your next article.

Toffeenose you’re certainly a lady if you take the word lady the way I do which is basicaly as the femininized form of gentleman.

The flavour room brought tears to my eyes as did sticking me head in a barrel when I had a cold coming on! I don’t know what the process was Dave, I wasn’t privy to that info but I could easily have found out had I been interested which I wasn’t at the time, I would be now it’s too late though! No, we didn’t have snuff testers, I am sure after 150 years they thought they were doing it right. Toffeenose, do you ever visit G Smith & Sons, 74 Charing Cross Road? I used to speak with Vivien Rose there all the time, though I believe he has passed away now though. There was a programme with Stephen Fry when he visited the shop, I have never been despite having strong connections with it.

@gillybean129: Yes, i have been to Smiths quite a few times, but not for a little while now, about a year I suppose. I do remember Mr Rose from the 1980s but that may have been towards the end of his tenure there. He was always patient and polite, even to silly little youngsters like me who didn’t know the first thing about snuff. The shop is in somewhat of a decline at the moment, the snuff sold there is easily twice to three times the price one would expect to pay for it elsewhere, and they don’t have as large a selection, even of their own brands. @bob: You’re a little sweetie, aren’t you? Yes you are!

sometimes.

It’s a shame the shop appears to be in decline, especially as I would imagine being in central London that spot is a prime one and probably why they charge so much.

Smiths must be doing alright. I bet they charge as much for customer control. So that people that shop in that area can feel more special and fancy with elevated prices while not getting much more of a product. Happens with a lot of other things. Look at some high end groceries. Well off to drink tea so my brain can explain things better.

Finally, after a few years of snuffing, I have succumbed to having open a tin of Morlaix from both F&T and WoS. When I first started snuffing, I found the perfumed snuffs to be rather off putting and an assault on the senses. I have acclimatised a little now to some of the older scents, and feel ready to actually try and appreciate the scents instead of outright avoiding them. WoS Morlaix: A fortified or enriched SP, or if you will a SP+ This is a perfectly pleasant snuff. Not overbearing on burn or on scent, this is one of those scents that make up the “easy listening music” of the snuff world. It’s a nice fresh scent with a citrus edge on a gentle floral backdrop. Not a show stopper, but a very nice addition to a collection, and very nice for general daytime use. F&T Morlaix: This is certainly a more perfumed and classier indulgence. This is more of an “event” snuff. If you were snuffing WoS Morlaix throughout the day whilst pottering in the garden, then the F&T version is the continuation when the sun is dropping, you’ve just donned your evening suit and black tie, and are about to head out for dinner with your beloved. This is not in my opinion a general use snuff. For those occasions when it’s time to reach for the special aftershave/cologne, and the watch you only wear on special occasions, this is the snuff to be taking. Luxurious and opulent. Choosing between these two snuffs is like choosing between loafers and highly polished Oxfords. Both have their place, and the trick is knowing when it’s the right time for which one