We are different from other sites in that we don’t allow abuse or swearing at other members. If that’s your scene then you will be happier elsewhere and a couple of mouse clicks will escort you off the site, Free speech and debate are absolutely paramount, but it has to be conducted in a civilsed way. A final point, please avoid posting vast cuts from the web to back up arguments - they just take up space (and IMHO I suspect are rarely read), and ensure you use the OT thread if your discussion is not about snuff. Thanks Snuffster