according to the mayan calendar countdown in dec 2012 the new peter jackson movie the hobbit is released , but what if they got it all wrong and it’s a countdown to doomsday!!

Terrence McKenna -Time line Zero .Warning contains drug reference watch at own risk.“http://www.youtube.com/v/_4oV_Z-c0e0?version=3&feature=player_detailpage”

At 4.16 explains the i-ching and the mayan calender both predict the change of a singularity of time and dimension.

Something will definitely happen…there are tons of theories and people calling bulls**t on other people, but I fully believe that SOMETHING major will happen. I’m just not sure what. I do know however that it will drive specific “sensitive” people a bit over the edge, and that I can say for certain. Keep your guard up and stockpile snuff just in case, lol.

I don’t buy a bit of it.  No man shall know the time.    

Something major always happens…

Time is an invention of man. Saying one knows when the world will end is like saying you know where the pot of gold is at the end of the rainbow.

The end of the world isn’t even the most popular theory, far from it I’d say, it’s just the most sensational so it it’s the most attention.

@furious

Time is an invention of man. Saying one knows when the world will end is like saying you know where the pot of gold is at the end of the rainbow.

The Mayan calender ends. not the world!

Has anyone seen the Hallmark calender for 2496?  Crap… something big is going to happen.  

When I was in Mexico in January a Mayan gave us a tour of ruins. He indicated just like we have decades, centuries, etc…this is just a measurement of time. One ends and another begins. He likened the activity around it to the Y2K fears. He said it was really good for business and tourism had increased greatly, for which he was appreciative.

I would say that the mayan calender is far from the only source pointing to an earth changing event in 2012, but I’m too lazy too look up sources so I’m just going to put on my tinfoil hat and talk to the faeries in my peanutbutter jar.

The worst probable thing that will happen is we’ll get hit by a CME (Coronal Mass Ejection) in which case our technology and civilization as we know it will be in some serious trouble.  The sun is supposed to enter a state of high activity in 2012 and some scientists speculate that it will be the highest level of activity in recorded history, then again some scientists say it will be one of the lowest levels of activity so who knows, you can’t predict what the sun will do which is why we have one of the most sophisticated satellites ever created watching it constantly.

Also Earth is long overdue for a pole-reversal, studying ice core samples we can see when pole-reversals happened and the longest amount of time between pole-reversals is between the last one and now so we’re overdue.  The thing is no one knows what will happen when the poles reverse, one theory is that Earths magnetic field will be significantly weakened when the poles are reversing taking away our protection from solar wind, and if we get hit with a CME when our magnetic field is weakened we are totally fucked.

I treat the 2012 scares the same as I treat preachers telling everyone to sell their stuff, because the Rapture is happening on X date; until it happens, I consider these things little more than fear mongering and an opportunity to make a quick buck/rise to brief fame at the expense of the gullible.  From everything I’ve seen on it, the “Mayans said the world would end, cataclysmic events would happen, or that we’ll all suddenly become more spiritually aware.” stuff is just an opportunity for New Age authors to crank out a bunch of books real cheap and make some easy money, along with TV stations like the History Channel cranking out a few “documentaries” on the subject.  The general consensus among Mayan scholars would suggest that at best, these are people who are misunderstanding the Mayan calendar and culture, and at worst they’re just making things up because a good panic is nice for business.

Much like Hindus, the Mayans believed in a cyclical conception of time.  The notion of the end of one cycle was really just important and something to be celebrated because it was a rare event.  The biggest thing any scholars say the Mayans might have expected from this was a change in consciousness, which is a pretty vague notion.

The idea that this was some massive event linked to major changes or upheavals around the world doesn’t show up (aside from an interpretation by Michael D. Coe that is now widely rejected and discredited) until New Age authors started cranking out books on the topic in the 1970s.  As for Terrence McKenna’s “proof,” he used a computer program that was said to demonstrate “novelty.”  He used arbitrary values for this novelty, and who knows what his algorithm for determining or predicting it looked like.  In addition to this, he drew his conclusion first and then set out to collect evidence supporting it, which is rarely, if ever, a good way to investigate things.  To top it off, his “prediction” initially gave a date sometime in November of this year, and he later fudged the numbers a bit in order to make it coincide with the end of this cycle in the Mayan calendar. 

I think the odds are far better that this whole thing will turn of like Y2K, the various predictions about Nibiru, and ever other prediction of the end of the world, than they are that something major actually was predicted and is imminent.  Come January, 2013, and I’m pretty confident everyone who went on about how something major would happen is going to pretend this whole thing never happened, while a few die hard authors will discover “errors” in their original calculations and print a revised date.  Sorry to ruin the fun, but my friend’s mother peddles all sorts of absurd nonsense, and dealing with her has made my woo-meter a bit touchy.

I say some poor Mayan, being paid two leaves of tobacco a day got a calender made up for 1,000 years in the future (for him) and said “That’s far enough, someone else can finish it.” Then he put down his hammer and chisel and went to the virgin sacrifices.

Acccording to my wall calender the end of time is December 31, 2012. i got this calender free at my insurance agent.

I don’t know about you guys but I certainly could use a fresh start.

As long as my snuff collection comes w/the fresh start, i’am with you.

I thought we weren’t allowed to talk about religion on here?

BTW time is not entirely made up by man, it is based on astrology and astonomy

Who said anything about religion? We are talking conspiracy theory here. Anyway, whatever happens, the poles shift, we get hit by a flying planet Nibiru, Ragnarok, or the aliens come to finally defeat the mole men…I’ll just be glad I got to see it. If nothing happens, well then hurray, I’ll be able to keep living my life.

It’s not purely centered on religion, and it has stayed civil so I’ll keep it open.  

well knowing my luck if the world did end it would be on the one day i over sleep and i miss it

yeah I’ll drop a secret religion talk is tolerated untill civility begins slipping which always happens cause there is always that one person that can’t just disagree (they come in all stripes by the way) and let it slide. My take on this subject is that I do think we’re on a new phase as people. I don’t think this because of the Mayan calander and I don’t strongly feel that there is a connection or that it is just coincidental. I do think that this period of time will rival the industrial revolution for changing the game of humanity. I guess in a way I would consider it the informational revolution.

Mayhaps in preparation for the end of the world, Mr. Snuff will have a 75% off everything sale? Yes? Maybe??

The last serious prediction of disaster was the Y2K bug which turned out to have an effect on precisely nothing and that was backed by a few scientists into the bargain. I’m going to go out on a limb and say that a Mayan priest who thought eternal night would fall if he stopped ripping peoples heart’s out with a flint knife was poorly equipped to forecast anything. Maybe he should have concentrated on predicting whatever it was that wiped most of them out, or if that was too much to ask at least the date when the Spaniards would come so that the remaining Maya could hide behind bushes and throw rocks at the conquistadors. 

And people take this seriously? Oh, p-l-eeease!

I predict that in December 2012 it will be quite chilly and that I will buy some snuff.

Summat has got to change, the world’s going down the tubes, just hope it changes for the better.

Stefan

That’s true enough.

I was kidding when I said that about religion…

And no offence to anyone who believes in it etc etc.

Though my favorite end times prediction I’ve heard was that the 1970’somethings olympics was going to end the world. The thing that made it my favorite was I heard it in 2001 from a local nutter.

I watched a fascinating thing on Discovery. It was a cult where the leader had managed to brainwash all these vulnerable, broken people into the end of the world being on such and such a date and that if they did everything he said - the usual cult stuff - that they would have new angelic bodies come the last trump. A journalist was allowed into their compound (gotta have a compound if you are cult leader) and filmed them leading up to the big event. He was not allowed in for the sacred moment itself and filmed from the dirt track adjacent. At zero hour a trumpet blast was sounded from some loudspeakers and there was lots of cheering.

He contacts his source the next day - the leaders son actually - and asks; ‘The world seems to be still here but have you now got angelic bodies?’. ‘We thiiiink we have’ comes the tentative reply. Unsurprisingly the leader is currently in jail for the various things people like him do.

Mods: sorry if that was too religious.

I’d say that there is some dumb comments and some really clever ones!
stockpiling on snuff is a major idea! like ordering half a kilo of FT high dry toast!

but me myself I’d like to see some evolution happening… we are too primitive to succeed this way we are used to…

So some researchers from the University of Boston, who have been studying some Mayan ruins for a long time, have noted that 2012 is NOT even the end of the Mayan calendar - they have Mayan calendars that extend to 17 baktuns rather than the 13 baktun calendar used for the “end of the world” theory.  The longer calendar buys us another 2000 years.  Sorry if you were counting on the end of days…

Some of the many, many articles on the 17 baktun calendar:
 
http://www.boston.com/Boston/metrodesk/2012/05/boston-university-led-expedition-reveals-oldest-mayan-calendar/4N1XsIVaItmKxhDXLhbMZJ/story.html

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/10/earliest-mayan-calendar-shows-no-hint-of-world-end/

They also point out that the end of a cycle in the Mayan system isn’t about the end of the world, but rather about when a new cycle is supposed to start (like a car’s odometer rolling over).

G

I kinda hope some crazy event happens. A lot of distrought suburban teenagers agree.

Crazy is better than non-existent… probably…

My fam and friends are having an “End of the World Party,” mainly just to have an excuse to get hammered and enjoy spending time with each other, you know…just in case.