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I have looked around quite a bit and could not find a similar thread, but I do apologize if one already exists. I though it would be nice to know where people live and local shops around them that carry snuff or don’t. We might be able to help each other out. I live in Maryland and work in Washington D.C., USA. I do most of my snuff shopping online. Locally I have so far found one shop that carries snuff, The Tobacco Depot in Laurel, Maryland and all they had was Square, Navy Sweet and Peach Scotch. Shops locally that DO NOT carry snuff: W Curtis Draper Tobacco, The tobacco shop in Union Station, JR Cigars, Davidus Cigars. I vacation frequently in the Pawleys Island/Myrtle Beach area of South Carolina and the Food Lions there carry a lot of American Scotches. Anyone in the DC/Maryland area that knows of local shops that carry snuff? Wherever you live post the shops that carry snuff! Edit: Forgot to add Tobacco Emporium in Glen Burnie had Society Scotch (only)

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The Tobacco Shop – Ridgewood, NJ Carries Ozona Raspberry, President, and (I think) Gawith Apricot Anyone got any places in NYC?

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Mr. Snuff has a list on his site. There you can add the stores in your area. It would be nice to try to keep one good list, instead of many incomplete ones, i think. I grew up in Potomac Md., (Live in Fl. now) What about you Yimes?

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I’ve started a list of shops in Yorkshire which sell snuff. I’m quite deliberately limiting it to Yorkshire as I don’t think I could keep up with more than that. If anyone can add a shop then give me shout.http://ermtony.pbworks.com/Snuff+Links

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@ ermtony: Can you not expand to the west midlands/warwickshire ?? please … I’d love a good list of snuff sellers for here in the midlands.

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Nice idea, but I’m really not familiar with the West Midlands and it’s shops! I do know of some in Cornwall but that’s only because my elder daughter and family live there.

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Ah thats fair enough. If you ever have the time/inclination though it would be much appreciated By the way have you come across any local shops specialising in snuff or doing a particularly large range? All my locals tend to sell at max 5 or 6 tins only.

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5 or 6 different snuffs seems to be as good as it gets most of the time, though we’re lucky here in Hull in that one suburban newsagent seems to have decided to greatly increase his range and he says it’s all selling well. The proximity to the university probably helps. If I were to devote a section of the site to shops all over the UK I would be very much reliant on other people keeping me informed. I’ll have to think about that.

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@miamimark I grew up in Potomac and now live in Potomac after a brief stint in Silver Spring. Whisper me some details, maybe we knew each other. I have seen the list on Mr. Snuff, however, at least for my area it is not extensive and it is incorrect as far as shops that actually sell snuff. I thought this forum, being more populated and current, might be a better place to keep this information No offense meant to Mr. Snuff they have a great site and a nice business.

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I’m in Gallup New Mexico. Pino’s at 112 W. Hwy 66 has Gletscher Prise and Ozona President. Denny Pino’s Gift Shop a couple of doors down has a small selection of Poeschl’s and Mc Chrystal’s. Both shops run by members of the same family. Lowe’s Market on East 66 carries Garrett’s Scotch and Sweet.

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Im in Terre Haute Indiana. They have a few places here that sell snuff. Tobacco Barn sells BRUTON, WE garret, and WE Garret sweet. Wabash tobacco sells a bynch of poschl, dean swift, and some scotches.

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I’m in Sofia, Bulgaria. I cant point just one or two shops. They are many and everywhere. There is snuff in all bigger cigarette & alcohol shops and in all tobacco shops. The snuffs in shops are Poschl’s/Ozona GletcherPrise, Gawith Apricot, Cherry, Strawberry, Spearmint and Redbull. All other snuffs I order online.

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As long as Pöschl monopolizes the point of sale market, I fear the snuff renaissance will remain stalled.

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I’ll second that.

M

I disagree only because poschl, (imo) makes very good starter snuffs. If my first ever snuff was the brutons or navy I could get from Winn Dixie, my snuff career would have probably been over very quickly and i would probably still be smoking.

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They can get the shops but they can’t monopolize The Internet. Most of the people have computer and all of us have debit cards with Visa Electron and Mastercard marks. I think that most popular snuff shops here are snuffstore.co.uk and snuffstore.de and we also have a local site for those of us that don’t like to use their cards for online shopping. We pay in cash on delivery. Snuffs available on our local site: F&T, Samuel Gawith, Wilsons of Sharrow, Gawith Hoggart, Toque and Dholakia. Pretty good choice. It’s not so bad that Poschl snuffs are widely available in shops. I still think thay are best choise for beginners as they are very easy to take. Especially GletcherPrise. There is no chance to hit your throat even if you snort it like a vacuum cleaner.

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I think Poschls are great, and would appeal more to a newbie, than say F&T HDT, or an American Scotch. In a way, I see the Poschl snuffs sorta like the American Camel Snus, in that it’s seems good at first and sparks an interest in the broader world market. While I don’t like Camel Snus now, I still enjoy Poschl snuffs.

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Nope. No way. I can see them as an occasional thing, but the way they make me choke and spit…just…no…ugh. I’d still be smoking all day. I agree scotches scare away beginners too. Snuff is stuck in a Catch 22. The middle ground is something like Wilsons or Toque. If those were widely available, and I mean as commonly used as cigarettes, I would have stuck with that from my teenage years. If my first impression of snuff was heavy menthol and parafin and a artificially sweet flavor, I would have treated it as a novelty and moved on. The internet is great. We can all get a huge variety from far and wide, but we are hobbyists. To the day to day consumer, that’s not how to get your daily tobacco fix. I would never recommend them to a newbie.

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I agree that if there was nothing else available, i would have moved past the poschl a long time ago and I’d still be smoking. Sticking with snuff and staying away from cigarettes can really be credited mostly to snuffhouse, it’s members and the online shops. When a friend wants to try some off my snuff, the first thing I get out is one of the ozonas. I might as well, they’d just be collecting dust otherwise!

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I meant more so as an introduction snuff, to spark an interest in the world of snuff. But while some don’t like Poschl snuffs, many must, or they wouldn’t be so popular. I have also heard from total newbies that picked up some Ozona at a local shop, and because they liked it, went on to order different kinda. That was the link with Camel Snus I was trying to make.

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Ozona was my entry into snuffing. I quickly realised that there were other much better Snuffs out there, but I have to say that if I had tried something without the training wheels at first, I wouldn’t be taking Snuff now.

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There´s not really a point in bashing Pöschl. It´s not like they monopolize the snuff market in any agressive way. The thing they do, compared to others, is to establish foreign departments and distribute their products themselves in many countries, or work with dedicated distributors. There´s hardly another snuff company, doing this. Only Swedish Match would come to my mind. So, it´s totally logical, that their products see quite a good availability across the globe. The wider distribution of non-Pöschl snuffs depends on the specific producers, but not on Pöschl. If there was a distribution for anything besides Swedish Match or Pöschl snuffs, here in Germany, I´d have added it allready to our range. The only way to take up SG, McC, Toque and all the others would be to import them and that´s way too much work. So far they either aren´t interested in finding distributors, rely on their local markets or the internet trade. Nothing wrong with that. But you can´t blame Pöschl then for not being able to buy these in your local store.

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Its not so much blaming them, but blaming the situation. Its true that they may have generated some interest in snuff, but they may have turned off 10 people for every one they turn on. Tom mentions Camel Snus. That, I’m now convinced, is a clever ploy to turn people off snus, and prevent real snus from gaining a foothold in the US market. Many “upscale” tobacconists in the US stock Pöschl and nothing else. There are national importers for several brands in the US, but most stores only stock Pöschl. If asked, the tobacconist will say there is no demand. However, if there is no supply, how can there be a demand? If no one knows about anything else, why would they demand it? Catch 22 Its easy to be popular when you are the only game in town.

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On the snus situation, I would never of know what snus was until camel came out. I tried it a few times and then discovered the better brands. I don’t think RJ reynolds made camel snus to attack the swedish snus market.

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I think that is our own fail in some aspects. We are only 1346 members of snuffhouse from all over the world. And about 10 active members that are writing here. There may be thousands other snufers that just don’t participate in the game. That is lack of interest. Poschl are doing our work. And I like some of their snuffs. I started with Gletcherprise and proceeded with other their flavours. Snuffhouse was the site that turned me on the snuff. I first tasted snuff 3 years ago, but I was taking it from time to time. Here I discovered a new and amazing world and started using it every day. Last week I ordered snuff for about 100$, just because I can’t wait to taste more snuffs. So sites like this have their job in turning on new snuffers.

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I think I have to credit Camel Snus with leading me to Swedish snus and nasal snuff. It was when after I bought Camel snus at the corner gas station, I did some net research and discovered Swedish, and it was on snuson forum that I had my 1st nasal snuff through an exchange, which opened that world to me. I do think Camel Snus is made to be an occasional product to be used when one can’t smoke, but it has been the gateway for many, at snuson we just opened a snuff section, as right now, new people are discovering snuff.

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Yes, I understand the gateway thing. I know that works in our favor for some people. But the reverse must also be true. Not everyone is as curious to look further into something as we are. I can’t help but wonder how many people get the wrong idea of snus if their only knowlege of it is Camel, and likewise Pöschl for snuff. We need to proselytize more, I agree. When people are given enough choices the best products eventually rise to the top.

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Some very good points from you guys. Of course, the whole situation is very complex. Basically it would be the companie´s duty to raise attention. But with all the regulations on tobacco advertising (and samples of tobacco products) this is just impossible. If there would be more advertising, there would be more demand from consumers, therefore more demand from retailers and wholesales -> more availability. It´s a bit of a vicious circle and tricky to find the point where to start action. Toque is doing a good job in trying to get past the advertising ban, via youtube, imo. This would be the logical job for a snuff takers association, but we see how far the whole ISTA thing came, so far.

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The ISTA could do more, but it doesn’t seem to have a real organized plan, nor a highly motivated person to get it rolling, as it would take alot of effort and energy. I would think a fanzine, with reviews, articles, editorials, pictures, and ads, with a subscription, and a council and an agenda with stated goals. I know all this could easily be gleaned from the net, but then, there’d be no use for it. I think such a thing to take off, has to be off the net as well. Youtube and such are great also. But a cheap made, but nice little fanzine could be made, and it’d even maybe be a mini-catalog that could be distibuted. Could be placed in cigar/tobacco shops. I have ideas. Not sure if any would work.

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The reason that many upscale shops in the US stock so much Poeschl is that Davidoff handles their American distribution. Davidoff is a firm well known to Tobacconists in the states for quality product. They get the job done quite well and are themselves a reasonably large company. Wilson’s, on the other hand, distributes in North America through Sheffield Exchange which is much less recognised by sellers here and they have significantly less capital to keep American outlets informed of their wares.

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Another thing to think about regarding snuff being offered in local shops is the American Monopoly. Despite the fact that you can get cigars from many countries in a tobacco shop, how often do any of you guys see cigarettes from another country. There are certainly many brands of cigarettes from around the world, but aside from a few very limited specialty types, it’s not very common to see anything other than American brands being offered for sale. When you think about it, Tom has like 51 american snuffs listed on his webpage. I’m not for sure, but there could have easily been pressure in the past not to allow foreign snuff into the market, which might have persisted. And Xander, I understand that you personally don’t like Poschl, but as Tom stated, it probably does get people interested. My story is similar to Tom’s. When I first saw Marlboro and Camel snus, I decided to give it a try. Even though I never smoked, I thought it might be a way I could discreetly curb my copenhagen fix in public. I started looking around online and found the Northerner and tried a bunch of swedish snus, which I found way better than the Camel version. Then, before I made my next snus order, I decided to pick up some snuff. I got a few Poschl’s and McChrystal’s because I was vaguely familiar with the name. I loved them and wound up becoming a dedicated snuffer. Over the last year, I’ve managed to accumulate quite a collection ~130, which includes all types and brands. Even though I prefer Poschl’s schmalzlers from their line up, I always keep some GP on hand.

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@Mr.Snuff Can I post this on the front page of my site for snuff? If you want to send me your catalog and any detail that may be interesting for our local and online shops, as you prefer I can send them to anybody interested (by request) or publish it for all readers of my site. e-mail: snuff_bg@abv.bg luben_k1@mail.bg site: www.snuffbg.dir.bg (still growing) www.snuffreviews.dir.bg (I’m working on it. Will be something like snuffreviews.com in bulgarian) forum: www.bulforums.com/snuff_bg (I hope this will be bulgarian version of snuffhouse.org one day in the future)