Is anyone else having issues accessing Lil Brown’s site?

they probaby have it down to update the prices

UPdate is probably the right word!

That sounds illegal as hell. How can they retroactively tax something? I guess they plan to run everybody out of business and then put everybody on the dole who’s not already on it. Sort of a twisted FDR fantasy… Short sighted though, no tax base = no more economy = time to start learning to speak Chinese.

I look at it as a sales tax. When a county raises the sales tax, anything you buy is taxed at that rate, no matter how old or new the stock.

That’s not what he said. He said “we have to pay taxes on existing stock”. That is clearly a retroactive tax. He didn’t say “we have to charge higher taxes on anything we sell from now on”. But maybe that’s what he meant…Mr. Snuff would you please clarify for the membership?

The tax was a “floor tax”. There was a tax bite on all existing stock, then increased taxes on new sales. In effect everything in stock will be taxed twice. Makes the revenues for the gov look better or at least higher. If one had 500 pounds of RYO tobacco at @$25 dollar a pound tax due April 1… that’s a huge hit for a small business. They must not be part of the 95% that will see no tax increase.Lying bastard.

He meant 95% of his buddies.

If they(Big Brother) wanna tax something in an effort to “help” people, and the society, they should tax fast food. Taxing tobacco more and more will not stop users, and it will just open up a market for lower priced foreign made items, and put more American out of work. I know we as mainly users of imported snuff may not be changed so much, but my father is a cigg smoker, and if some cheap Mexican brand comes about, it will just bankrupt the US companies. We had a large tobacco factory near me, and now it’s an empty wasteland, and on the news this morning, it was talking about the local homeless making a tent city here. Tom502

Yeah I’m sure they are updating the prices on their site, they have a lot of inventory to go through… Wonder if anyone will still buy RYO? For Obama wanting to create jobs, he’s sure doing a good job of trying to end them. Theres your hook mr.snuff, you can create your own ryo and sell as raw coarse snuff. You can contact all the ryo forums etc. Or you could give it away with purchase of a very expensive handkerchief.

It’s hilarious how this simple thread has become an Obama bashing party.

Its easy to do.

I suppose that depends on your bias. What I have not heard anyone say is how their good ole Republican President allowed this to go by. But of course that wouldn’t be said now would it.

He stopped the SCHIP last time it came up. They had to wait for Democratic shift before they tried again.

I believe the same thing is going to happen to Americans which is going on in SA; government is taking away our firearms to clear the way for the criminals. They passed a law which cancelled my licenses, so now I’m a criminal owning unlicensed firearms.

Cstokes4, I really don’t place much of the blame on our current “prez”. Congress was the ones who thought this up , wrote it down and passed it. Mr. Barrack just signed it. He could have vetoed it, and if his promise of not raising taxes on 95% of us was worth a darn, he would have.

I tried accessing the site last night, and again today. I did send an email last night, asking about why the site is down. @Pieter - That sounds absolutely terrible. I sure hope nothing like that happens here in the US, but I’m afraid it is going to start here soon.

As far as i know here in Croatia,only the prices of cigarretes will go up,good thing i went from cigs to rolling tobacco. Much cheeper,i usually buy one pouch of Drum Original,Drum Bright Blue,Golden Virginia and Van Neel,which lasts me for more than one month,and my exspense the tobacco +rolling paper doesnt exceed lets say 25€

I think we in the US missed another chance for real, positive change, with Ron Paul, now it’s really more of the same, but with more government interference. Tom502

leman, its already happening here. Each year in CA, the list of what you can legally own is getting smaller. Its like this all over the US. And something that has been boiling in the pot for a little while now, Ammunition Accountability. Remember how Obama said that he wasn’t going to take your guns? Well, it seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo! The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers. Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is coded. Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2…50 or more! If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun! They have been trying to pass this in CA for a few years now but luckily it hasn’t passed yet. I think its only a matter of time. When Arnold’s term is over, if we get a gun hating Dem, we’re in trouble. We had one a few years back Gray Davis that did serious damage to gun rights. Ammunition Accountability Back on topic, give Lil Brown a few days and see what happens.

FYI - The site is back up and running.