Where can I buy some Levi Garrett? I was told that this snuff is obsolete. Is it true? I can’t find any online supplier who stocks it.
lilbrown smoke shop but they only sell in the US
E-bay
Yep. eBay is probably your best bet. There’s a jar here that looks like it is still pretty well sealed. Shipping is a little pricey though.
Leman, thank you!! I’ve placed a bid and will see what happens.
Good luck Pieter! Tell us how it turns out!
I’m glad I could help. It is really neat when you get one of these old jars. The snuff is wonderful, and it’s like you bought a little piece of history. I hope you get it.
I think you’ll like that one a lot Pieter.
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So I take it you have tried both and can’t tell a difference?
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Tom is not the only one that has heard from the manufacturer that the products are the same. Other members have spoken to sales reps who have indicated the same thing. Tom also has made comments that the reps aren’t knowledgeable about their own products. Another member posted a link to a web page that showed the product numbers for the various Conwood products and the Levi was listed among the WE products which might indicate some of the confusion from the sales reps. Whatever the case, the general consensus here among members that have tried both products is that they are either totally different or only slightly different but different nonetheless. -edit If I was a snuff seller I would rather someone buy a similar product from me than buy a product I was unable to obtain from another store.
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No apology needed. I like both snuffs. Why Levi is so hard to get I have no idea. It makes no sense. The company lists it on their website as a product and yet when vendors go to buy it conwood says “oh thats the same as WE” Crazy. edit - I mean even if it is just a different size jar, why list it as a product and then not sell it.
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Here in my collection I have a vintage Levi Garrett from circa 1966, a vintage W.E. Garrett from ca. 1940, a modern W.E. Garrett, and a modern Levi Garrett. All 4 are distinct from each other, yet all four are similar enough that one could mistake them for each other. Frankly, I think the sales reps are misinformed from higher up, don’t use snuff themselves, and basically work for a company that would rather not even make snuff. The vintage ones certainly take on a mellowing with age, and become sweeter (but not like a sweet scotch). I think the biggest difference in between Levi and W.E is sharpness. W.E. will sting a bit more, and has a bit less flavor. Levi is more smokey and full. Still, they’re very close. Very, very close. I have two theories. One is that they are the exact same recipe but Levi is aged and or fermented longer making it more robust. Second theory is that Levi is indeed no longer made, they just stick W.E. in Levi’s bottles and hope the old folks who buy it never noticed the switch. I am now the proud owner of the bottle in the above auction (at least until I send it on to Pieter). Do yourselves a favor and find a similar auction, they happen pretty frequently and usually the price is less than ordering a new bottle from Lil Brown. It’s one of the best snuffs the world has ever known.
Folks, all I can tell you is what I’ve been told by people that should know. Specifically, the head of snuff production at Conwood. He assured me that they are the same. Was he lying? What possible reasons would there be for him to lie about it? It’s certainly a possibility although I doubt it. I’ve about worn out my welcome at Conwood. I’ve brought up the subject one to many times and their irritation is starting to show.
Tom, I would like you to know that I’m not doubting your word. I accept that, if you were given the wrong info, there is very little you can do about it. Problem is I have samples of both WE Garrett and Levi Garrett and there is a distinct difference between them. I’ve also read Troutstrokers reviews on both these products and according to him, he prefers Levi to WE. I’m but a junior as far as snuffing is concerned but I find Brian’s reviews very much to the point. If he says there is a difference, then there is a difference. This is all so confusing. Why would a company sell one product under 2 different names? We are not so stupid that we won’t know it. It seems as if the staff at Conwood are the stupids. And if they get irritated with you, as their client, their stupidity shines through.
Oh yeah well they claimed Coke Classic was the Real Thing and we have our doubts LOL
Pieter, at one time, I’m sure there was a difference. That appears to no longer be the case. I can only go by what I’ve been told, not just by one person at Conwood, but by at least 6 different people. (approx, I lost count after a while.) I’ve even ordered Levi, using Conwood’s own product codes for it, only to receive WE. One of the members here even went so far as to compare both under a microscope! Looked exactly the same to him. Of course, this doesn’t necessarily mean that they are the same. This gentleman also was kind enough to send me a sample and I could discern no difference. Snuff is only a minor blip on the big three’s radar. As Mr Snuff put it recently in another post, it’s all about $$$$. I think he stated that US Smokeless yearly snuff revenue was about 50 million compared to their yearly revenue in the BILLIONS for just chew! It’s no wonder they could care less about a small bunch of snuff users. If it was your company, which would you promote? I also appreciate, and respect, the many excellent snuff reviews that Brian and many others have contributed over the years.