I just started work on a new batch of homegrind and while I was out procuring my base tobaccos my eyes fell upon the rack of chew pouches at my local tobacco hole. I wondered has anyone ever gotten curious and tried this out to make a snuff? I know the leaf is covered in a syrupy like sticky gunk but that could be rinsed off some with cold water. Has anyone ever used like Redman, or Beechnut, of Levi Garret chew to make snuff? If so how did it work out? If no one else has tried this I may venture back down there later and try it myself alongside my other method for a comparison. ** As a side note there is a very very large Amish population where I live and I have heard tell of some of these Amish growing some quite good baccy. I will be attempting to source myself some of this enigmatic Amish grown tobacco soon. There are also unconfirmed rumors of some of the Amish around here still making their own snuff (what I am assuming would be a Schmalzler) given the description I got from someone who saw this stuff but is themselves unfamilar with snuff**
The amish around my parts grow cigar tobacco for chew yes chew and cigar tobacco tends to be the same type. Their chew and cigars are good. They don’t taste great they taste good. Very rough and unpretentious and rich and earthy. The thing is their tobacco kicks like a mule. Big reason for that isn’t just strain but that the rich limestone soil is one of the reason PA used to be a big tobacco producer. I imagine that if you made nasal snuff out of their tobacco it would be most similar to NTSU maybe a little stronger. I’ve seen their chew make a few older chewers vomit like a kid who puts in his first big wad. Man if you can get any amish tobacco of any sort it should be worth it. I used to buy cigars from them for less then a buck.
I’m working on it. Sort of growing some connections as we speak. There are about 75 LARGE scale amish farms within 15 minutes of my front door. The Amish tobacco possibilities are endless and I am determined to get my grubby little hands on as much of that raw, lethal Amish ammo as I can. I have had a plug or two of their chew and like you said, the stuff is damn near nuclear. Too bad the place that sold their twists got in trouble and shut down
I would think the chew base would goo all up when it was ground , even if it was dried out…but I’ve never tried. When you get ahold of one of them Amish, ask if they use mostly Burley, just out of curiosity.
Ahhh redman would be soooo good in the nose ^^
I’ve actually grounded up some cotton boll twists last night and really enjoy it. Pretty strong as well.
Well I went and bought a pouch of Taylors Pride for experimental purposes…I rinsed the chew in a cold water bath until the leaves were a lighter golden color and the water lost the rust tint.Spread a paper towel across a baking sheet spread the leaves on top of the towel an placed another on top and rolled the whole thing up like a giant doober, applied very slight pressure and unrolled and tossed the sticky towels. Repeated process with a shorter rinse and absorbed remaining goo. Then I spread the leaves out on a baking pan lined with foil and set that on top of my pellet stove which heated the leaves at about steady 175 deg. or so for like 2-3 hours until dry but not crumbling. They are now a clean, golden and only slightly dry leaf. There is still a mild amount of the molasses/syrup like scent and coating detectable but very very faint. I’d say it reduced it by at least 80% from how it smelled and how sticky it was upon opening. Now it smells mostly just like tobacco goodness. The pipe jar/humidor type of goodness with a very slight caramel/butterscotch note lingering lightly in the background The cold water bath and toweling seemed to have been worthwhile and I am quite excited to get this slightly toasted and ground and see what kind of animal it is at that point.
Hmmmm, interesting! From what I understand, traditional chew is only flavored with molasses and sometimes mullein leaves, so there really shouldn’t be anything stopping this from being quite snuffworthy!
Thats pretty much what I was led to believe too. We will see soon enough!
I’ve made some snuff using locally made soft chew. I also rinsed the tobacco after unrolling it and then left it to dry in my wendy house. I then placed it in a glass jar, filled the jar with a mixture of brandy, sherry and honey. The jar was sealed 100% airtight and left in a warm place for 4 months. After this treatment I left the tobacco to air dry which took about a week. I then ground and sieved the tobacco. It was a complete failure!! The chew was treated with bicarb of soda and the snuff smelled and tasted like freshly cut grass. No mattter what I did, that smell creeped out all the time. After adding all sorts of flavouring, I eventually discarded the stuff. I must add that our local chew is made by and only used by our natives. I did make some decent snuff using Cotton Boll and another twist, the name of which I can’t remember now. The difference is that twist is dry and ready to grind.
I’ve never tried using chew to make snuff before but I have used chew to make pipe tobacco as one of the members on one of the pipe tobacco forums makes it that way and sent me some so I tried it to. I would suggest getting a hold of some five brothers pipe tobacco if you wanted to make some killer strong nicotine snuff. Five brothers pipe tobacco is what most of the Amish up here in NW PA smoke and chew it’s pretty killer in a pipe but lacks as a chew.
Well this morning I checked on the tobacco and I gotta tell you. I get more and more excited the closer I get to grinding this stuff. It def. does not smell like it did when I took it from the pouch. Even now the scent has changed again from yesterday, still a faint caramel but now there is almost a spice/pumpkin pie note going along with it. I’m still hopefull that this will turn into a very nice snuff, particularly after I employ some tricks I found on here and elsewhere to it. Who knows though, it aint over until the morbidly obese lady sings
@Knows, why the cold water rinse vs, say, warm water?
I was afraid the warm water would open the pores and the leaves and lose some of the nictotine, scent and other good stuff with the warm waters tendency to cause expansion and breakdown
The sweet chews would be perfect for making tea (not for drinking dummies). If you were interested in trying an old native style liquid snuff. Also this “tea” could be used to rehydrate snuff for an extra dose of nic. And, you will need to rehydrate after grinding your home ground leaves. Plus it may already have all the necessary additional alkalinity. Just be sure to label the bottle with the skull and cross bones.
Yeah really, brewed or steeped tobacco tea is used as an insecticide and is hellaciously toxic stuff. Diluted even with extra water it drops Japanese Beetles dead on contact like a gunshot. I never heard of a liquid snuff before. Sounds to me like that would be either insanely brutal or just plain dangerous but I am curious since I never heard of it (To the drunken research lab!!) I finished up the snuff I made from the rinsed and slow dried Taylors Pride chew. Krups “grindered” it to death and ended up with something that reminded me of kind of like an SP or a toned down GH Kendal Brown. All in all not bad and actually craved a blast a few times today. Besides I needed something to fill the finished snuff mull/table box with last night
Yes tobacco bullets can kill! Only the insanely brutal natives know for sure. I’m about to fill a horn myself. Are we having this conversation?
i just finished one made from redman. upon first smell in can it almost has a rich bacon like smell. roasted maybe i had mixed it with the remaning copenhagen snuff i made upon sniffing it had a sweet aroma. with almost nil nasal drip and a slight burn. i am planning on placing a cap of chai chocolate tea in it to give it a little more moisture and nice fragrant. after sniffing some i smelled the chai and it was a heavenly smell the only downside is i have neither a moartar and pestle or a coffee grinder so i had to crumble it by hand or use a pill bottle and a bowl to get it down to the consistency i liked so i lost about 40 percent of what i started out with due to stems. but it seems to be great. got a little under a half can of dips worth of it so that should last me about a week. hopefully my order will be here by then so i dont have to spend another 4-5 hours grinding it lol