I received an order through the mail yesterday, and I’m blown away that it took me so long to get to these snuffs. I got London Brown, Black Rappee and Kendal Brown snuffs from Sam Gawith. They’re all fantastic–dark, rich and earthy snuffs with the scent of Latakia tobacco in them (some more than others). The Kendal Brown is a masterpiece, though they’re all excellent. My only complaint is that the tins come only half-full–why use such a large tin if you’re not going to fill it? On the other hand, I don’t spill as much when the tin isn’t so full so even that has its advantages.

I thought the same thing then loved not spilling snuff. So it’s a trade off.

If you like latakia snuff, Molens Latakia AO 1860 is the standard IMHO.

@Zanaspus, that’s the ONLY latakia snuff I know of. It is the BEST latakia snuff, for sure.

I don’t know if I’d like a LOT of latakia. I love the Kendal Brown from Sam Gawith–it has a nice hint of Latakia together with a citrus scent. Very addictive.

Got some AO 1860 just waitin for me to hit that checkout button…I can’t wait…apparently the esteemed Mr. Jaap produces some of the very finest snuffs!

Latakia Ao 1860 does not, I believe, actually contain Latakia. It is a simulation. A very good pure Latakia snuff was Cyprus by Wilsons of Sharrow. It was introduced quite recently by Mark Chaytor as one of the Celebratory Snuffs (Queen’s Silver Jubilee), but vanished from the list in the 1980s. Perhaps, with a little agitation, it could be brought back in time for the wedding of Babykins and Big Willie on April 29th. Unless I’m mistaken there is not a single Latakia snuff left on the international market.

This is what Snuffmiller says about Latakia Ao 1860 http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/comment/17169/#Comment\\_17169

London Brown does indeed have a slightly sweet and smoky flavour. It is very similar to real Morlaix, which is no longer available. The name refers to the city where sugar was first painted with molasses (London) and the resulting colour. Snuff has been manufactured under that name (but not continuously) since Regency days. I find it has a quintessentially gallic flavour, and invokes happy memories of days in Provence with plenty of sunshine, strong cigars and strong red wine.

Thanks for the info Phillip…this way i won’t be spreading misinformation…plus it came straight from the horse’s mouth, so it’s reliable information. Thank you again!

Regardless of the mix, Molens/Dutch Windmill AO 1860 is A+++

So I’ve heard, Apparently Jaap Bas really knows what he’s doing! Like you said regardles of the mix, I’m still excited to get my AO 1860!!

BF…er…FTix… AO is very rich…not an all day snuff AP is much more user friendly…but still rich and not all day I’d start with Prins Regent Macuba Mettaijer AP Bon Bon in that order Also, I’d consider changing my avatar…you know…every so often…don’t want it to go stale…I mean it’s been…what…2 hours nutin bu luv bro out

Or if you have already ordered I’d get exactly what you chose in the order you chose it and leave the damn avitar the way it is cause it’s all good and besides you just cain’t go wrong with Molens

Hahah…Chuck! I also have AP and Prins Regent, and Bon Bon on my order …as for the avatar…this is the final draft… i promise…or do i?! Gotta keep ya on your toes bud! Wouldn’t want ya to get bored…bein from the Palmetto State n all… We both know how boring it is round here!! I’m really enjoying this five or six enters per line thing… But I wouldn’t wanna steal your trademark! Keep your nose full and them gums a flappin…much love from the Fish Pond!!!

A friend mailed me a small ziplock of the 1860 and I love it… The smell lasts a long long time. It’ll definetely be on my next order

I must be cursed with some sort of strange allergy. As much as I like both AO 1860 and A/P, they clog my nose worse than a German turbomenthol.

Eric, don’t get me wrong I love AO…a lot…however it is not as versatile as other Molens offerings. To me it is very much like Latikia in pipe tobacco…a condiment snuff (vs an all day one) But oh what a good condiment it is

If the other Molens are better consider me a fan. I’ll probably order a tin of each… The tap boxes turn me off though.

PhillipS is right, For a real Latakia snuff you can grind up some pipe tobacco. You will be surprised. Black Rapee comes close as does the 1860. A Latakia only snuff will not have much nicotine so a mixture would be better.

Tranters used to do an oustanding latakia, no idea if its still made for them but it was truly exceptional.

Not to get too far afield here, but do most tobacco stores in urban areas (US) carry latakia pipe tobacco, and is that how one would ask for it? I don’t want to look like too much a fool when I go shopping, but I think I’d like to try a nice latakia snuff, even if homemade. Any advice appreciated.

For advice on anything to do with pipes or pipe tobacco the best person to ask is Martin Mcgahey. He does an online Q and A on his site. @ddavelarsen http://www.the-tobacconist.co.uk/

@ddavelarson most pipe shops will have plain latakia as a condiment leaf. However, latakia is really not meant to be consumed alone but to complement a blend. I would not make a straight Lat snuff any more than I would smoke straight lat in a pipe any more than I would drink mustard straight from the bottle Instead Look for a English or Balkan blend of tobacco. Ask for one that is stronger in Latakia. Rattrays Black Mallory Esoterica Penzance Dunhill My mixture or just the house English they sell in the shop Any of these will be a good place to start

I’d wage that the smokey aroma of the said snuffs hail from Kentucky burley. It’s fire-cured, stout tobacco. When blended with other tobaccos it can be easily mistaken for latakia.

@all:Thanks for all the kind words. From the message of PhilipS you know how Latakia Ao 1860 came about. It was the first snuff we produced in the windmills since in the first half of the twentieth century the production reduced to zero. We only had partial recipes in a small book which survived the destruction of De Ster by two fires and showed us the route to revive historical snuffs. Jaap Bes.

Hey all, thanks for the suggestions re Latakia! That will be most helpful in my search. My grinder came today, and I’m just itching to make some snuff…

Burley is nutty when done right, bitter when done wrong, and bland when a cheaper cut IMHO Latikia’s profile is completely distinct just as a Virginia is distinct from an oriental. I think it would be hard to imitate one by using the another To the same degree that I think it would be hard to present mustard as mayonnaise But that’s just me

Hey now snifsdog…I present mustard as mayonnaise quite often, and get away with it too!

@snifs: Latakias have indeed very distinct aroma compared many other tobaccos. It’s because it’s fire cured oriental leaf. The smokiness in the aroma is quite clear. What comes closest is an another fire cured type, namely kentucky. As far as know, it’s the only fire cured burley there is. Quite different from other burleys. It’s smokiness is not as pronounced as latakia’s, but when acting as a part of blend it can be mistaken for latakia. It has a higher nicotine content than latakia and it’s often used to prop up a blend in the strength department. Also, as Jaap of Molens attests, “Latakia Ao 1860” is a blend of virginia and kentucky tobaccos. And what a fine blend it is!

Latakia as snuff was not what I expected. It is very different than when smoked in a pipe, so is Perique for that matter. Ooh! Latakia/Perique snuff! Time for me to get some blending Latakia.

I smoke Pure Latakia straight in my pipe and love it. I’ve also made pure Latakia snuff but it was so strong in smell, I had to mix in a lot of natural tobacco to make it useable. I think I’ve sent Xander or Cstokes4 a sample and although whoever received it, complimented me on the taste I’m pretty sure he just dumped it!

@PieterClaassen: I still have the Latakia snuff you sent me. I can’t use it very often, but when I do, I enjoy it. At the moment it needs rehydration though. I have a couple tonka beans (split) sitting in it to soften the flavor a bit. I might just rehydrate the beans, and let them rehydrate the snuff.

@Jari T Upon reflection I think I will have to concur with you on this one. I’m not a big burley fan and so its been a while since I’ve had any on purpose…………but if memory serves you are indeed correct

Most snuffs are made with burley. Most of the ones that are not clearly note the distinction. Gold Label being one example.

Damn…all this time I thought they were made with tobacco…silly me!!

Really? Is there something else called burley that is not tobacco?

I’ve met some barmaids that were pretty burley!

That one doesn’t work either with the pronunciation not being the same. All the while detracting from the broader subject of tobacco types.

Quite sorry sir, certainly did not mean to offend.

I’m just cranky pal. I really want to learn something I don’t know so I can connect the God damned dots.

Completely understandable.

Went looking for sources of latakia tobacco today and came to the conclusion that I can buy snuff as cheaply as I can buy pipe tobacco; just might be worth it though if I can snuff what I think I want to… I’m putting an order for a latakia blend pipe tobacco on my next order list. We’ll see how my snuff making with a latakia blend turns out.

Worthy of note is the Syrian latakia verses the Cyprian. These two being the more readily available are touted by smoking enthusiasts as distinctly flavored. Among other leaves are the various oriental strains that possess their own distinct qualities. In due time I will discover these as snuff. Anyone sooner, please express your opinions.

If you must have it straight. Try this http://www.smokingpipes.com/tobacco/by-maker/mcclelland/moreinfo.cfm?product\\_id=3418

Excellent, thank you!

Old thread, I know, but if anyones looking. I just got a 5gm tin of very old unopened WOS Cyprus. After a little rehydration, it is smokey, strong, rather like Molen’s 1860, but finer in grind. I’ve never had a snuff quite like it. I wish they still made it. Does anyone know anything of it’s history?

Wow, lucky you! Yes I read a review on it by Nigel (Abraxas) some time ago. He may chime in and tell you something. I wish that was something that they would revive