Does anyone know if you can buy any J&H Wilsons snuff in bulk? And if so, where? My favourite ever snuff is Top Mill, but I can only ever find it in those crappy little blue tins and would love to be able to buy it in larger amounts. Any ideas anyone?
Isn’t this the snuff that was/is sold on street corners and whatnot? I don’t know if they sell it in bulk… I could be wrong but I thought I read something about this snuff…
Its pretty much the only one you can get in newsagents and corner shops etc in the UK, at least in the north. I’ve only ever seen it in the small tins, except in Black Swan but I don’t think they have the bigger tins in stock anymore.
Not available in bulk anywhere.
@snuffster Thats what I thought, do you know anywhere where you can get the bigger tins? Guess I’ll just have to buy 20 odd of the little buggers and decant them into a Kilner or something.
You can get the large tins here: https://www.thebackyshop.co.uk/products/jh-wilson-top-mill-no1-snuff-large-vacum-sealed-tins
Except that when I ordered a tin a month ago I was sent a bunch of the little ones… not good.
"Except that when I ordered a tin a month ago I was sent a bunch of the little ones… not good. " True. I am JH Wilson fan myself but i have to admit, that i would be a little bit upset with the distro.
I really don’t see why they can’t put it in the large tins anymore. They obviously have the tins, as the other two snuffs are sold in them. They obviously have the snuff, as they sell it in the worthless little boxes. Why can’t they put the two together? Even in a blank tin with a handwritten sticker would be fine.
JandH is made by big tobacco now, its one of those things that they probably don’t even know they produce at head office, like you get with some of the US scotch brands.
Does anyone know any contact details for the owner company?
I was thinking the same as Koba22, send them email demanding tins. Googling didn’t help there.
I believe it is made by Imperial.
It is Imperial, big tobacco, no owner just shareholders and hard business. Emailing them about larger size tins will get the same result as asking Phillip Morris to supply Marboro in 25 packs, ie none.
Well, we could start a riot or something, occupy their corporate headquarters like other activists do all the time.
I’ve contacted them throught their website, not sure how much good it will do as @snuffster said. If I don’t hear anything back from them I’ll give them a ring.
The thing is that the alteration to a line in a massive multi-national is a big thing and seriously profit/market led. The entire revenue for JandH is insignificant and It will, as a certainty, be point-blank impossible to find anyone to progess it. Snuff production is a residual thing for companies like this, and it’s just hanging in there because they are already set up to produce it. I wouldn’t waste a minute of my time on it but good luck - just be prepared for stone walls. If anyone does ever get them to sell it in bulk though, I will personally buy a 1lb for whoever manages it! But I should also say I never gamble. This does bring up a slightly different and more interesting angle though; smoking in the West is diminishing rapidly if not dying. There are still the massive Eastern markets, but big tobacco has historically put a lot of energy into maintaining profit in the West; Camel Orbs, Eclipse/Solo cigarettes to name a few of many. If the radar ever did hit the quiet back-waters of snuffing then we may see some interesting results. But then again we might just get lousy Camel Snuff.
Looking on the Imperial site, their UK profit increased by around £13m in the last year, and we’re still talking hundreds of millions of pounds overall. It would be interesting to see what happens if they ever do see the possibilities of snuff, but like you say, it might do more harm than good. It did only take a minute to email them, and I don’t expect any changes in production really, im just curious as to why only 2 of the 3 are packaged in the 25g tins, and not Top Mill, it seems a bit odd. We shall have to wait and see if they reply.
A petition might be more effective than a single email. Make one and I’ll sign it. These mega corporations seem only able to deal with other mega organizations (not individuals) so a petition, especially an organied one will have more effect than a single customer. Really, it just needs the “right” person in there seeing it, but with too many hands between you and him, who knows if he will. As for future profits, Swedish Match is very aware of the value of smokeless. Most of their reports indacate this. They are as big or bigger than Imperial, and have their hands in every form of tobacco and other things too.
I sent them request anyway, you never know, Sam Gawith and GawithHoggart changed their evil ways re tapboxes.