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T

See last post.

B

I’ve brushed my teeth with indian snuff it worked well.

C

Sprinkle it on your toothbrush.

S

There’s supposed to be some benefit to the gums, I think, like betel which is also used as a dentrifice. I know some of the Indian “snuffs” are actually in paste form for brushing (!). I use Garrett myself…

B

That Madras ‘butter’ snuff was really good!!. Do you remember off the top of your head how much that cost when you got it last, Tom? Sorry, I know it’s been a while…

T

I think it was $2.99. If I recall, the Himalaya and Madras was $2.99, and the Rose was less. The IPCO also was $2.99 I think. Though cheap, the Himalaya is pretty old, and I have seen some of the cans with rust on them. As far as quality goes, I make no promises on anything, and I am not sure what the prices are now, which may be the same, and I’m not 100% sure if what I remember is correct, but they were all cheap, and 50g tins.

N

What are the IPCO and Madras like?

W

looks good to me. I will add if you find they don’t have enough of everything for everybody (for example not enough madras or ipco for everybody who wanted them to get at least one), in that instance you could cut me down to one (of which ever you’d be short of otherwise) to share so that anybody else who wanted it too can also have at least one (though I am clearly hoping they do have enough)

T

The IPCO is creamy snuff, like a gelled tobacco that one rubs on their gums. The Madras is hard to explain, but seems more “plainish tobacco” to me. They also have a nice Rose snuff, and older cans of Himalaya. I haven’t been there in a little while, so anything could be different.

W

is it the 5 Photo Himalaya they have? If it is, I wonder if they would have the “Raja #5” too. I really don’t think I’d be interested in the HImalaya but that Raja by the same people sounds interesting (but I don’t want to make a whole order at NicotineRush just for it) if you happen to see any cans of “Raja #5” out there, please get two of those for me too please

T

OK, I doubt they have that though.

C

Non-commercial tobacco mailings are still legal under PACT.

W

No worries. Stefan

T

whistlrr- 2 IPCOs and 2 Madras squarefiend- 2 Madras dgriego- 1 Madras, 1 Himalaya, 1 Rose walrus1985- 1 Madras, 1 Himalaya, 1 Rose, 1 IPCO stitch- various packs of spit tobacco Alexander Ghaffari - 2 IPCOs, 1 Himalaya, 1 Madras I have everyone’s address, and will pack these up tomorrow or Friday, and mail them off 1st thing Saturday morning, and then I’ll let everyone know what the total is and my info.

T

I have mailed out the Indian snuffs, and will whisper the totals and info to all who got them. I considered the actual taxes I paid on them, and then rounded off the totals with shipping. I hope that’s fair and honest to everyone.

D

Thanks again tom502 for taking the time to do this for everyone! I am looking forward to the snuff!

T

I am curious to how everyone takes to the IPCO Creamy Snuff. I got a tube myself, but it’s such an odd item, I guess I really am not sure what’s the best way to use it. I’ve been approaching it more like a mouthwash.

D

Got mine today tom! Thanks again. I will let you know how I like them once I get a chance to try them tonight

W

got it. Sampled the IPCO, not too bad (put some around my gums). the packaging on the snuff is so exotic looking and completely covers whatever’s inside of there so much that I can’t quite bring myself to open it (also got some items from snuffstore in the UK at the same time yours came and I’m kind of overrun with snuff right now, yeah I know ‘what a problem!’ ) While I’m a bit too busy respecting the interesting packing (it seems to be entirely covered with very colorful paper) and just how to get into it without tearing that up, meanwhile I have tofigure out where to secure these other little baggies of "blenders bundle etc… and something completely non snuff related REALLY has my focus (new communication device which I’ve just not only worked some major ‘bugs’ out of but now I even can do impressions of everybody from Jack Nicholson to President Obama to Yoko Ono) as soon as I figure out a way to not mess up this little very interesting container and sample what’s inside I will let you know. I do see a difference between IPCO and some Dentobac I was sold before (but then, the Dentobac turned out to be about 4 or five years old, it has a date of 2006 on it!) these IPCO say they should be used up before June of 2010, not really sure right now how I’ll get that accomplished, but its not too bad. I might treat it like a mouthwash or maybe brush with it then brush with regular toothpaste, I don’t know, haven’t figured that far yet. I’ve even considered using a little bit of it like a nose salve (like vick’s vaporub) when my inner-nose gets irritated or something dab just a little in there maybe.

T

I find the IPCO to have a decent somewhat minty, or mentholly taste. I’m really not sure how the people in Indian use it, apart from thier website, which says rub it on your gums for a few minutes and rinse. I guess to use it up, I should do it every morning, or night before bed. The fancy Madras cans can be easily opened, if you find the ridge of the top lid, which is metal, and cut along the line of it. It’s super packed, so the overflow will be about 10g itself, so you should find some container to put that into, and use that up 1st. Just my suggestions.

S

Tom, thanks for the packet which arrived last week. I just got it last night and will have to try it out soon. Will let you know my impressions. Best wishes!

T

Yeah, welcome, I’d like to know what you think of them. I might venture a try with some next time I’m out there, but the Lajawab really didn’t “do it” for me. It was so different, with that lime essense, and menthol, but it did hit pretty hard.

S

I think the lime they refer to in these products is probably calcium carbonate, a strong alkalizer. It accelerates nicotine absorption, which explains the “hard hit”.

W

Just a quick update – I still have not actually tried the madras snuff in all my preparing for PACT I found myself VERY overrun with Snuff and it became critical as in “NOW NOW NOW!” that I stop all to start taking storage a *lot* more seriously (I had these schmaltzers in their lovely little shopping bags, bulk bags of Toque, Molens that comes in those screwy plastic dispensers, etc etc etc… and realizing that with all this going on that having all my American Scotches sitting lined along my desk may look lovely but isn’t doing the snuff any favors, especially the conwoods in their cardboard tubing, and me with nothing but a few little jars and lots of electrical tape…) Even Napoleon with his legendary drop/‘usage’ would be impressed with and take a little time to get through all this and I realized I have all these little partially opened tins and I think I’ve only ever actually used up maybe 2 little sampler tins of anything and so… and I finally finaly got it all stored… all of it (a couple of things need labeling before I completely forget what they are but otherwise its done)… and without one single storage solution to spare, and I’m heeding your advice, Tom, about ‘expect about 10g to come erupting out and have a place ready to store it’ (and right now I just don’t) I even started my finger around the ridge of the can before I remembered your advice just in time… and I’ve decided I need to stop this smorgasbord mentality here of 'oh lets just run hither skither ADHD styyle sampling all over the place" and I need to stick with one snuff a while longer (maybe one steady snuff in a snuffbox and one really small secondary ‘to break it up’). So, I’ll get there, I’ll get to sample it… some time in the meantime, just FYI, electrical tape does not stick well at all to 10g toque tins at all (no idea why and its just the 10g ones – every time I go to look in my snuff storage for any reason there they are, just those 10g toques, with the electrical tape sagging off of all of them). I realize somebody’s going to come back and tell me electrical tape sucks anyway, but hey, you work with what you’ve got (and I happen to have a lot of electrical tape). and Tom, I was in such a hurry the last time I posted here I never got to really say thank you for doing this, but I really do appreciate you’ve done this for us.

M

Thank god it’s a “quick” update. : ) …Just a joke whistler…

T

I think people go overboard in their effort to “store” everything. I have 2 old Cigar boxes in my desk drawer, and I have all my tins in them, and some I just have laying out. I don’t plan on doing anything else. The Madras, from what I remember, was really super packed. But I would not feel in a rush. Get a 10g tin of a snuff you like, and focus on using that, then reuse that tin with the Madras when you feel like it. At one time, I had more snuffs, and I got 2 plastic containers with these snap type lids, and used those too. Oh, and you, and everyone, is very welcome. I am happy to share odd findings, and I hope others will too, if anyone finds them.

M

I’m interested to see her response. I’m hoping she’ll take in the spirit it was meant, a friendly joke. We’ll see!

W

@miamimark I have been ‘clocked’ (tested and confirmed multiple times over) at having ‘burst typing’ at rates that exceed over 150 wpm, and I’m especially prone to burst typing while I have lots of adrenaline going/am caffeinated (which I was when I wrote that) so it really and truly was a quick update (for me) Remember too that typing is the way I communicate (people watch me typing and go ‘damn I wish I could type that fast’ and I always tell them “maybe you would if you had to type in order to talk”) the typical human rate of speech is something like on average 270wpm (so you can see that even with my rate of typing I’m still no match for typical verbal speaking people and adaptations, learning to wait and give me a few extra seconds to respond etc are necessary) but catch me in a live-time chat (and especially if I’ve had a few cups of coffee first and/or you piss me off while there lol) and see how fast I can really type. That’s where you’re in my world, the place where the playing field is more than leveled, that’s the place where other people go "woah slow down, I can’t keep up!’

W

@tom, I have so much snuff in here at this point that its ridiculous. I should get my digital camera going (but I have no place to store a picture online then to post it here if I do) just to show you how much – and its taking me 2 days just to get through one of Patrick Collin’s regular Zebra snuffbox’s worth of WE Garrett (which gives me a pretty good idea of just how slowly I am going to be going through all this, which is great for me and securing my snuffing future, but not so good for the snuff). With all the tales on here of "I went to snuff X snuff and it was dry and terrible [etc] and I had to rehydrate it’ [etc] I guess I am deciding better safe than sorry, and besides, if they’re all kind of sealed up that will encourage me to do as you say, and actually use one snuff until its tin is completed (leaving me that space for decanting the madras in once I get to it). I’m not sure taping the bejesus out of the molens funky little containers was satisfactory. I also really try to focus on dry snuffs so there’s less place for it to go in terms of spoilage, but some snuffs are so good they just have to be the exception. Anyway, about the Madras: If once I do get to it and I find I really like it and you do another snuff run, I may ask to be a part of it again. (In fact if I find I really like it I’m going to really hope you do since you’re the sole means to get it!)

N

@tom, Sorry to say I think mine got lost in the mail as I did not receive it.

O

@whistlrr “no place to store a picture online then to post it here” photobucket?

T

As has been posted elsewhere, Patelbrothers has a website that is selling the Rose and Madras. And it’s a bit cheaper than my local store, though the postage counters that. Those that got these from Patel, are they fresh, new?

R

How can i tell if they are new Tom? the Rose is in a plastic tub. The Madras is in a metal tin.

C

The rose sounds new. The madras, not so much.

R

The rose is very fragrant. My room mate smelled it across the room when I first opened it. The Madras somewhat fragrant long lasting burn though

T

Well, the Rose I have, has a 2008 date stamped on it. I don’t know how long snuff lasts, I think it lasts a good long time, esp if unopened. The Rose I have seems very good.

R

yeah the rose is stamped 5-09, madras is stamped 8-09

S

@ rridenour I got the same dates as you got. The Rose and madras are both very nice. Their should be lots of other brands available out their , gota keep on the look.

N

@tom502, Just an FYI, I still have not received mine.

T

And I don’t think you will, as you wern’t on the list. But get with me next time.

C

LOL

W

My Madras snuff: I cant see the year on either of mine (on both of them the end of the expiry date is hidden behind the crease where the paper starts again) so all I can see is “Oct 20”(the rest if its there is hidden). Mine unfortunately were/are not like other people are describing and I was really looking forward to. I did open them shortly after getting them and the first thing I noticed was there was no big overflow of snuff like I was expecting, but I paid that no mind, took a few sniffs and got a lot of burn and no joy. Then I noticed that just shortly under the surface the snuff is pretty encrusted sort’ve like a rock to the tins. Its the same way with both tins (no joy, all burn, and rock formations) so I can pretty well figure this is my first real clear-cut case of having snuff that needs rehydrated and its been my first experiment in rehydrating. I first tried having one open little tin of madras in the bathroom with me while getting a shower in. Unfortunately since I have help to get this done I wasn’t completely in control of this and it happened to be the day I got a nearly cold shower additionally with the bathroom door left wide open (no steam joy to be had there), so I next found a little sort of ceramic pudding cup thing I have, put the entire opened can of Madras in it, put this in a larger thing (a picnic big round thermos thing I have) microwaved a glass of water for 4 minutes (to get right around boiling, poured the water in the thermos thing, then placed the pudding cup with the madras tin in it and waited several hours. This helped a very little bit with the very top of the madras (I think) as it was less burn and I could smell a little of the sort of chocolately smell the snuff has when just smelling over it, when I sniffed it, but still needs more work (I also think I managed to hydrate more of the paper label than the snuff itself), so this time I am trying maybe 5 - 8 grams of it, scraped into an old Toque 10g tin, same process (tin set in the pudding cup set in the wide shaped thermos, microwaved water) and I’ll see if I can make this better. I just think I got bum tins of it and I still want to really work with this snuff, maybe another time try for better luck with fresher tins. When I try to click for it on the Pattel Bros website to see more about it or purchase I get ‘this webpage cannnot be displayed’

T

I think perhaps the Madras is meant to be very dry. As you know, snuff in India is mainly used in the mouth. But as a plainish dry snuff, it might be something good to blend with. I recently blended some Sun Rasili with some Dholakia Sparrow, because while I like the Rasili, it seems very oily and clumpy, like if I press it, it keeps that shape, so the blend worked well, I think, and made it more, maybe dry is not the right word, but less oily. The Rasili scent totally overtook the Sparrow too.