So as the title suggests I have an idea for a problem I have while enjoying my favorite snuffs. Some of my favorite snuffs are medium-low nicotine but I love their aromas just wish they had more of a nic kick. At a local vape/gardening shop I go to regularly they sell nic boosters for your vape juice if you can’t get it in your desired nicotine percentage, so naturally I thought what if I added this to some to my favorite snuffs and mixed it in well. The nic pac only comes in liquid but I think with excessive mixing it may be worth it. I have no clue if they already sell a similar product in powdered form but this is easily available to me. What do you guys think? Have any of you tried this or something similar? Any advice or pointers or just to tell me its a horrible idea, let me know. Thanks

I just follow up with a pinch of White Elephant, White Horse, or the like if I need a little more nic kick.

Yeah I haven’t tried white elephant yet but I was actually reading about it this morning because I was looking for strong nic snuffs. I’ll definitely be ordering some soon.

Why don’t we have a dislike button? Lol

So you think it’s a bad idea? I think it would be nice if they sold Nicotine powder to boost any snuff of your choosing like you can do for vapes. It would be very convenient. I’m going to give it a try when I have time anyways and will report back on this thread to let you guys know how horrible or well it went.

I think it’s a terrible idea.

But if you are gonna try it please be careful to not overdose yourself on nicotine

Questionable ethics aside… such means might be more or less efficient (depending on a particular composition of booster).

The limiting factor is the carrier, which usually is either PG or glycerine (or a mixture of both), and you wouldn’t want your snuff to contain them in excess (3% of total weight of end product - less than 1 drop of carrier in 1 g snuff).

So, if nicotine concentration in said booster is relatively low (for instance, the ceiling where I’m at is set to 20 mg/g), using such PG, VG or PG/VG-based booster wouldn’t make much sense. One drop per one gram snuff would only give you one additional mg nicotine and would result in excessive amount of PG, VG or PG/VG. For the record, one gram of medium strength snuff contains about 10 mg nicotine (dwb).

Thanks for the detailed informative reply. The nic booster I have is made from just PG. It’s 1.8ml and says 20%. On the back it tells you what your nic % would be for the size of bottle, for instance a 15ml adding 1 full nic pac would make it 24mg nicotine.
Given the information you told me and the fact I don’t what to waste my snuff, I think I just won’t do it. I think I would only experiment with it if I made my own batch of snuff and even then I would just test it out on a portion of it. Anyways thanks for the reply and info. This is why its always good to sit on a idea for a while and see what others think.

From what I’ve read in old snuff literature it was common to use nicotiana rustica powder to up the nicotine in snuff. I think this would be a better option.

I used to vape and one time while making my own e-liquid I got the amount of nicotine concentrate wrong. I ended up pretty much on my ass from one hit. It hit so hard and fast I thought I was going to die.
I’d be very carful using that stuff in snuff to be honest.

Thanks for the reply and that bit of info about the nicotiana rustica powder, I’ll definitely look into it and maybe try to get my hands on some. But yeah after thinking it over and reading what you guys have to say I don’t think I’ll be experimenting with this anymore, I’ll just add it to my vape juice. Like you said, I don’t wanna end up on my a** from nic overload but most of all I don’t want to commit the unforgivable sin of wasting good snuff. I also ordered some high nicotine snuffs out of the ones that were in stock like green dragon, cheetah and several others. So those should give me the extra fix I’m looking for. I’ll definitely try to find some of the rustica powder though, thanks.

So I found some nicotiana rustica on leaf only website for pretty cheap, only 18.99 for a pound. Cheapest place online though it’s in whole leaf form but it’s not hard to grind it down into a powder with a coffee grinder.

Other sites its $50 for 200gr in powder, so I’ll go the cheap route. I read up on it and you are right, it has a very high nicotine content of about 9% and regular tobacco is between 1-3% so its perfect for adding a bit to a snuff to give it an extra kick. Thanks for the tip and when I get it and try it out I’ll let you know how well it worked.

To add rustica to your snuff, you must first prepare the rustica powder. To do so, prepare a batch of 100 grams of rustica by mixing it with 20% water, 6% salt, and 6% sodium carbonate. This will ensure that you maximize the amount of nicotine available.

Just add a little of the prepared rustica powder to your snuff until you find the right nicotine punch you’re looking for. Good luck! Let us know how it works out.

Btw, Toque sells rustica powder

Just note that you will need to be sure to properly alkalize the rustica flour after you mill and sieve it. Otherwise, it will not provide much of any nicotine to speak of (the natural pH is way too low). Alkalized with no more than 6% sodium carbonate or 6% potassium carbonate (or 3% of each) dissolved in 10%-20% H2O and thoroughly mixed with the flour, will make it quite potent, however. Measure by weight (you’ll need a suitable scale) and allow the mixture to rest in a closed jar for a while (there will be some ammonia given off, but that can be aired out as desired). No need to add sodium chloride, as the burn is already going to be tremendous due to the rustica’s high natural citric acid content.

According to various studies, more like 4-6%, not 9%… Some rustica varieties are capable to render even up to 18% (+/- 2%) nicotine, but it’s rather an exception than a rule.

In contrary to a so common copy-pasta, 9% isn’t set in stone by any means.

Thanks for the info, I haven’t ordered the Rustica from leaf only yet because I’ve spent a lot on snuffs the past couple of weeks. I did take your advice though and ordered the Rustica from Toque…and a healthy variety of other snuffs

When I have more money in my pocket I plan on buying the leaf rustica from leaf only because I would like to try and make my own snuff becuse I’d like to learn how and just for the experience and fun. When I do it I’ll definitely take your advice and let you guys know how it goes. Probably middle to late of next month.

As for now I have that Rustica order which should be shipped soon but will take a little while to get to me because I’m in the US. Apparently Touqe says taking too much can be fatal. If you guys don’t hear from me again, it was that darn Rustica.

Yeah I was just quoting from the Leaf Only website that sells it. They probably were just talking about the specific Rustica that they are selling. It’s potent and a good price for how much you get.

Thank you, I’ll be sure take your advice when I get the Rustica and prepare it. I definitely want to do it properly and not waste it, so I’ll be taking precautions.

“Too much can be fatal” should be taken with a grain of salt - most folks find it too weak for taking as it is. See, the only essential difference between Toque and Leaf Only rusticas (besides price) is their shape - the former comes finelly milled, the latter as an intact whole leaf. Both are not treated with alkalis, come pure, so you’ll have a nice amount to play with - enough for making 6 x 10 g batches following different formulas, if you only will (assuming you have ordered 50 g economy bag). Limiting factor would only be the grind (obviously, making a batch of coarse isn’t a possibility with a fine powder ).

Yeah I figured as much with the warning. You’d probably have to take very large amount in a short period of time and I think your nostrils would clog up before that could happen anyways lol.

Yup, I ordered the 50g bag (it was the only one I saw available but probably would have chosen that amount anyways if given an option) so I’m excited to experiment with it when I receive it.

It was only shipped on Tuesday because I think there was a bank holiday on Monday( heard that on Grade A Snuff’s latest YT video from yesterday) so it should be here within 6 days. I live on the east coast of US so our orders come a bit quicker than people in the Westcoast.

I’m still planning on ordering the whole leaf rustica in about a week. I’ll post about what I do with the rustica and if I have any questions also. Thanks for everything!

Yes, I don’t see how it’s possible insufflate enough tobacco to kill one’s self (well, quickly, anyway). Now, if one could find nicotine powder, I’m pretty sure it could be accomplished. I understand that nicotine is/was the active ingredient in some insecticides. Sort of like that fitness guru who killed himself a couple of years ago using caffeine powder. Seems he found out that micrograms and milligrams are not the same thing.

Yeah high concentrate Nicotine powder could do it just like the nice juice I have if it was ingested some way all at once, like swallowing it. I’m sure there is a way I could turn this nic juice into powder if I did some chemistry but I’m not interested in doing that.

The website Leaf Only that I am going to buy the whole leaf rustica from does say that is and can be used as a pesticide because of the high nicotine content. So its a multi purpose tobacco, how great.

I don’t want to waste any using it as a pesticide but it is weed season. Maybe after making it into snuff and I’m using it, I guess I can just blow my nose on the weeds in my yard and that will take care of them.

Oh and that caffeine story I’ve never heard of it but I’m not surprised, caffeine is no joke. The last few years I’ve seen caffeine being advertised and put into many different products that I don’t think is really necessary, especially if the person is already drinking coffee and or soda. I recently saw a commercial for caffeine infused shampoo on tv. They also have caffeine toothpaste, mouthwash, mini liquid shots, toothpicks, gels, etc. They probably even have caffeine body lotion. Many different ways for people to take America’s favorite drug.

A comparison of rusticas from Toque and Leaf Only would be very interesting. As far as I know, no one has made such yet (or it hasn’t been discussed). A reliable way to find out if they noticeably differ in nicotine would be making a batch of snuff from each, following the same formula of your choice. There might be other differences as well - flavour profiles, colour, taste etc.

Consider procuring 100 and 200 micron sieves or strainers for sifting your rustica from Leaf Only, and electrical coffee grinder for milling, if you don’t have one yet. Fine Toque rustica flour is probably sifted through 100 micron sieve (I use 150 micron sieve and resulting powder is a tad coarser, and actually is more to my liking than finer fraction).

Cheap 100 and 200 micron strainers ideally fit for this purpose can be obtained from US Plastic EZ-Strainers™ | U.S. Plastic Corp.. Quite a few American artisans (Chef Daniel, OSP dude and some other members of this forum) have used and recommended them.

Using a proper sieve makes a huge difference to snuff texture, I advise procuring at least a couple of them (100 and 200 micron) before ordering whole leaf.

Awesome, thanks for the info! I’ll definitely take your advice when making the snuff’s as this will be my first time trying to do so. Also thats a great idea to compare the two rustica’s and give my feedback. I’ll use that as my excuse as to why I’m doing this.

I’m still waiting for my order from Toque. Today would only make it ten days since it was shipped, it does say 10 to 15 days for US, though I thought it might be here earlier just because Mr. Snuff is always quick and I live on the east coast. But they are being shipped from totally different places so its understandable. Anyway it should be here soon. I’ll be ordering the Rustica from leaf only today and that is coming from US so shouldn’t take too long.

I’ll be getting the other things I need to make the snuff together but I have most of what I need already. I’ll keep you guys updated when I get this going. Thanks for all the tips!

One used to be able to buy USP Pure nicotine and caffeine powder from Amazon and other retailers. They were “asked” by the federal government here in the US to stop selling it, and most, if not all have complied. The danger of OD was of course the reason. Not to mention that nicotine is potent enough to use as a murder method.

Looking forward for your feedback!

Yeah so Toque said my order was severely delayed due to May day holidays in Germany which makes sense. Looking at the tracking, it sat in Germany for almost 2 weeks lol. But I got a few messages from USPS and it arrived in NY yesterday and has left the distribution center already. The expected delivery date is Wednesday! My Rustica order from Leaf Only may be arriving Wednesday also so that would be convenient.

I’ll most likely be making the snuffs on the weekend. I’m excited to learn how to make my first homemade snuffs! I think it’s a good thing to know anyway because we never know what will happen with the ever changing laws in our governments against tobacco.

I am also going to order a few different kinds of tobacco seeds so I can grow but I just haven’t done it yet and its kinda late now to plant them anyway, but next year I can get them going at the right time. I’ll keep you guys updated and take some photos of the results.

Good to hear your Toque order has crossed the ocean already! Also, it’s still not too late to start very early finishing tobacco and rustica varieties like Alida/Ahus, Little Dutch, Punche, Isleta Pueblo etc.

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