the problem with bulk though is which ones to get. I’ve decieded my next order that’s what I’am doing is trying out this bulk bunk you cats always jazz on. The thing is I have no idea what to get. I’am down to a handfull of choices. On a similar note the G.H. 25 tubs are mucho awesome.
Thanks for the advice @Whalen. I use smashboxes for a lot of my snuffs. My 25g tins and above are taped up and double bagged in the fridge.
I think a person can’t go wrong with plain type snuffs…Toque Quit specifically for me. The reason being, (for me), my tastes for different scents changes quite a bit day to day. And the plain could be scented in the future if you wish. I agree, Bob. I’ve only had GH Cm and was VERY impressed! Enough to order many more 25 g from Mr Snuff…which I’m still waiting on. Perhaps I will start a thread about it (after I finish off this tin of ‘butterfly dust’.)
Hooked - That is a problem, I bought a ton of them from Tom, he called them the 2 and 3 ounce size. I have found them listed on Chemical supply houses but they still are priced by the 100 lot. It was all I could do not to order a thousand of the 2 oz size ( holds 25 grams). But I am to broke now. If you send for samples you will get several sizes, they ship fast.
Tap-boxes are to snuff what Edward D Wood was to film direction. Avoid at all costs (unless you enjoy awful snuff and rotten film).s. Perhaps if sales plummet the manufacturers who murder their own product will withdraw the nasty little efforts. Bulk is by far the best way to buy (especially with gros) - it’s fresher and much cheaper.
Having just received some of Snuff Store’s house blends in their superb new screw-top tins, I am even more disgruntled with the way SG varieties dry-out in those wretched plastic tap-tanks. I also dislike the difficulty I have opening the slider on the SG tanks. When I have a few more empty WoS tins, I may try decanting and re-humidifying some of my collection of SG from those nail-breaking nightmares! About the only tap-tanks I find “tolerable” are those used by Pöschl for Red Bull, President, their “Gawith” Apricot. Even the gold-style ones they use for the GH varieties tend to go dry rather sooner than tins. Snuff Store, Wilsons of Sharrow, F&T, McCrystals all seem able to supply their snuff in good containers [traditional tins] - exemplifying the old maxim: if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. I don’t understand why SG went over to those horrible plastic monstrosities, when they take such pride in the age and traditions of their mill!
@Fretless I quite agree with you but here is some brief explanation: Pöschl does not moisten their snuff with water, but with oils. If it were water based, rest assured it would dry out in the tap boxes. Samuel Gawith no doubt switched to tap boxes in an imitation of Pöschl’s “success” and thinking it would make their snuffs more trendy. Their own offered explanation is that the tins they had often rusted. I’ve seen that happen, but I’d say that that’s due to them sitting on shelves too long except in the case of very moist snuffs. They must have struck a deal with Bernard in Germany who also uses the exact same style of box. In that case however, they tolerate it better due to being oil based (Fienster Kownoer being a notable exception.)
Does anyone know of a place to buy Taxi Red in bulk?
wasn’t bernards going to go out of bussiness a while ago. Then didn’t someone mysterious buy their company and then didn’t Samuel shortly after that start using shitting tap boxes? That’s how I rememeber it going down.
Bernards just downsized. Bernards is the importer for SG, which I think is mostly pipe tobacco.
I’ll chip in with the same view…if you have only tried SG and GH in tap boxes then you’ve probably got quite a twisted view of some of their lovely snuffs…Particularly with GH, I’ve had some very nasty experiences from their gold coloured tap boxes which might lead me to think that their snuffs are just horrible (dry, sandy, not nice in the nose), if I had not sampled some of their snuff in tubs- which I would not now be without. I’d go so far as to say that some of the reviews of their snuffs are probably based on these horrors rather than the real thing. They can’t be doing themselves any favours. Off Message; does anyone have a UK phone number for Mr Snuff? Grateful if you would PM me.
I won’t buy GH or SG Tap boxes. Not even to sample the snuff, as it will be horrid by the time it gets to me. Only made the mistake once.
I’ll agree. I had Sg in a tap box and swore it off. I’m glad I gave it another try in the 25 g tubs. I love the KB Plain, KB, and black Rappee. Sorry I’ve been missing something good all this time.
Indeed, @Petersuki. For me, SG’s saving grace is that I remember what they used to provide to G Smith’s in London [in small glass jars], and the excellent blends they produce for Snuff Store. Certainly, the tap-boxes do not present SG to a standard that seriously deserves shelf space alongside the tins from Wilsons of Sharrow or those superb tubes from Fribourg & Treyer. @Xander thanks for confirming the oil issue with Pöschl snuffs - that would explain a lot. Still a pity I find some of theirs just so offputtingly synthetic and artificial. That said, Red Bull and President can be handy when I need something convenient for a quick sniff between lessons [I teach] - and the oil content means their tap boxes remain “tolerable” in the snuff pocket of my jacket over a reasonably long period.
Having now got most of GH in tubs, I can also say they do some lovely snuffs. Quite literally a world apart from their ghastly tap boxes. I love Lakeland, Strawberry, Tia Maria, Western Glory, Irish D, and don’t dislike the others (except perhaps Wallflower). I’ve been reading their reviews on snuffreviews and clearly some people are rating the tap boxes and some are rating the tubs, which is why GH reviews are so inconsistent. Now I want to buy all the SG’s I can in tins. Just wish I hadn’t bought their whole range in tap-boxes when I didn’t know any better
@OscarWabbit : "Now I want to buy all the SG’s I can in tins. Just wish I hadn’t bought their whole range in tap-boxes when I didn’t know any better " I can relate to that sentiment. What comes in those plastic boxes is pretty ghastly - and the slider tings are also a pain [some guitarists/bassists value our fingernails!] - only their work for Snuffstore has preserved my faith that SG can still make good snuff!
Fretless I sampled tins and bought in bulk 500 gs of SG SP no1 High Mill. My favourite all day snuff. Lovely stuff to my taste, - which tends towards the plainer sorts. As to Gawith Hoggarth, I went today, with the air of piligrim who knows that he is visiting a factually discredited shrine, but goes in any case, to Smiths in the Charing Cross road. The Smith’s snuffs are now available in the Gawith Hoggarth 25 g tubs. Absolutely identical apart from the G Smith & Sons marking. I would imagine that they are are probably made by GH rather than SG. I bought two tubs, Golden Cardinal and their High Mill. I won’t comment on them apart from to say that they were over £8.00 for 25 gs. I would have liked to try some others but was not prepared to throw any more money at them. With train fare included, say, £25 for 50gs of snuff. Bonkers, - but I was drawn there for old times sake. It’s quite sad to reflect that both SG and GH probably invested quite a bit in the machinery and marketing for those failed boxes, which, as PhilipS says, simply murder their own product. I truely like several of the snuffs of SG and GH in tins and tubs.
£8 for 25g??? Fucking hell thats scandalous. Stefan
Haha, sure is. Yikes… that’s a lot of dough for some damn Samuel Gawith or Gawith Hoggarth snuff.
I used to work in W1 years ago, and it was literally my local tobacconist. (Four Square, real Three Nuns, real Gold Block - gone with the wind). I would have noticed that kind of price differential in those days, and can’t recall paying such rip of prices for my snout. Anyhow, Stefan, I’ve survived and put this episode of TAD behind me.