How to recommend snuff

I have a friend who smokes but he will not try snuff because “cancer.gov says it causes cancer”. I have never heard of someone getting cancer from snuff and I think he’s being a pansy, but how do YOU recommend someone try something like snuff?

Gov. says cigs, “cancer sticks”, cause cancer too. Did you point that out to your friend? I have not seen a single study that shows European snuff causes cancer.

The 3 primary reasons why cigarettes cause cancer is: #1 - because of the way cigarette tobacco is cured. Instead of hanging in a cool dry barn to cure naturally which takes about 3 months, they force hot air through the barn to “speed cure” the tobacco in only 3-6 weeks. This dries out the leaves, but doesn’t completely kill all of the carcinogens, it sort of mummifies them. #2 - Because of the 300+ chemicals the tobacco companies put it cigarettes to make them taste a certain way, burn at a certain speed, make the smoke a certain color, Etc., Etc., Etc. Some estimates I’ve seen are as high as 500-600 chemicals! #3 - Because you inhale those uncured carcinogens and 500-600 chemicals into your lungs! From your lungs it goes directly into you bloodstream, then all over your body. Need I say more? I know I’m right, because I have researched Tobacco growing, curing, processing, and I have researched Cancer. Roderick is right, I’m right, Print out this thread for your friend and tell him to research it himself if he doesn’t believe us! TRUTH IS THE ONLY WEAPON

Smoke, Smoke, Smoke That Cigarette Written by Merle Travis and Tex Williams Now I’m a feller with a heart of gold And the ways of a gentleman I’ve been told The kind of guy that wouldn’t even harm a flea But if me and a certain character met The guy that invented the cigarette I’d murder that son-of-a-gun in the first degree It ain’t cuz I don’t smoke myself And I don’t reckon that it’ll harm your health Smoked all my life and I ain’t dead yet But nicotine slaves are all the same At a pettin’ party or a poker game Everything gotta stop while they have a cigarette Smoke, smoke, smoke that cigarette Puff, puff, puff and if you smoke yourself to death Tell St. Peter at the Golden Gate That you hate to make him wait But you just gotta have another cigarette Now in a game of chance the other night Old Dame Fortune was a-doin’ me right The kings and the queens just kept on comin’ round And I got a full and I bet ‘em high But my bluff didn’t work on a certain guy He just kept on raisin’ and layin’ that money down Now he’d raise me and I’d raise him I sweated blood, gotta sink or swim He finally called and didn’t even raise the bet So I said “aces full Pops how 'bout you?” He said “I’ll tell you in a minute or two But right now, I gotta have me a cigarette” Smoke, smoke, smoke that cigarette Puff, puff, puff and if you smoke yourself to death Tell St. Peter at the Golden Gate That you hates to make him wait But you just gotta have another cigarette (Ah, smoke it! Hah! Yes! Yes! Yes!) The other night I had a date With the cutest little girl in the United States A high-bred, uptown, fancy little dame She loved me and it seemed to me That things were ‘bout like they oughta be So hand in hand we strolled down lover’s lane She was oh so far from a cake of ice And our smoochin’ party was goin’ nice So help me cats I believe I’d be there yet But I give her a kiss and a little squeeze And she said, “ah, Marty, excuse me please I just gotta have me another, cigarette” And she said, smoke, smoke, smoke that cigarette Puff, puff, puff and if you smoke yourself to death Tell St. Peter at the Golden Gate That you hate to make him wait But you just gotta have another cigarette

I’d tell him not to make excuses for his cowardice. Because he knows that’s what he’s doing. It’s just not so easy to say I’am afraid of trying new things, when you can lie and say I’am just concerned about my health. (show him that post and tell him I’ll make fun of him every single day untill he tries snuff.) And my insults will get worse and worse untill I make him cry (it’s easy to make girls cry).

i would wait till he is a the bar or had a few drinks then he might try it more … funny thing is its non smokers who ask me for snuff more than smokers at the bar

Can I say this without opening Pandora’s Box here? Again a health professional told my pipe club friend about the tar and nicotine involved in smoking. He sez that while cigs can cause problems(I think he referenced copd and emphysema), the people who get lung cancer from cigs are getting it from the additives. Also that if second hand smoke was so bad that pipe and cigar smokers would be having the problems, because they get more second hand smoke than others do.

grilled foods have a cancer risk. from what I gather anything that has been burned vastly increases the risk of cancer. stay away from the smoked tobacco snuffs which in themselves reduce the carbon monoxides from smoking cigarettes and you will eliminate the nitrosamines associated with cancer even further. I choose the lesser evil. non smoke cured snuff has a far lesser cancer risk than smoke cured. Remember that dogs on a grill increase cancer risk. We just can’t get away from cancer causing risks. Sun, grilled foods and you name it, but quitting the inhalation of carbon monoxides and the burnt tars is a great step forward in reducing cardiovascular diseases and chances of cancer .

I’d tell him the ammonia in cigs can’t be aired out but the ammonia in snuff can.

Cigarette smokers may not enjoy snuff as much because their cilia are burnt off.

@spydercanopus if your friend won’t try it that is OK you have planted the seed! He will come around, then you will have to lock up your snuff stash. If you want to introduce someone to snuff -offer them something that is easy on the nose Like Samuel Gawith Black Coffee. Or some other semi-moist snuff. There are plenty snuffs suited for a beginner.Everyone dies we just enjoy ourselves along the way. And tobacco use doesn’t cause cancer.

Tell you Friend that he can use snuff INDOORS, Around People - Anytime, Anywhere. At Work, in elevators, at the Doctors office, even in Church! And no-one will even know that he is using snuff. :)] :blush: :)>-

BTW, I was able to quit smoking by using snuff. However, I have never succeeded in getting anyone else to give up their cigarettes for snuff. I have turned on a number of my friends to snuff, and every time they see me they ask for a pinch, but they still continue to smoke.

I quit cigarettes with the use of snuff too. Let him know it’s healthier, cheaper (until TAD sets in :S), much better tasting, and is much more fun than cigarettes. Show him how much you enjoy it. If he still doesn’t want to try it, take it as a blessing that he wont be dipping into your stash! Or, have him talk to @bob til he cries… I’ve noticed that a lot of people have never even heard about snuff until I showed it to them, so there’s probably a fear of the unknown. My wife likes snuff and will take a pinch of mine when I tell her to try a new flavor, but it stops up her nose something awful. Other than that, I’ve only had one friend try a pinch and he didn’t take it too well. Most people just give me that “hell no, are you crazy?” look when I offer them some. That’s OK. More for us.

O.K. What the heck is TAD and when does it set in? Is this another attempt by Government to keep us from enjoying life?

When I was in high school, snuff was covered in our health class texts, as well as in history class while discussing a certain era. How can people not know what it is, even if they think it’s not used anymore? Not meaning to be bashing anyone here, but it leaves me scratching my head a bit.

My area its not very culturally diverse and the education system is questionable at best. Moist dip-type snuff is pretty popular, but it seems nasal snuff is totally foreign. It puzzles me too, but it’s true.

@frigginsantaclaus Tad is tobacco acquisition disorder and for me it took ahold of me within a week of my first order :slight_smile:

Yeah, the US made oral products were and still are easy to find in my area. Back then I knew only one place to buy nasal snuff, but everyone seemed to know what it was. Go figure, I guess…

@Mr. O: you’re making the assumption that most high school students are paying attention to their lessons. In my experience, most are not. I can’t remember the first time I heard of snuff, probably cartoons I watched as a kid – there would always be an enormous sneeze in the scene, but I remember the first time I saw it, and I was out of high school by then.