I love Dholakia White (and Black). Does anyone have any idea how it’s made? It’s like no other snuff I’ve tried. For one thing it’s so pale. Do they use a special leaf or what? And what is it scented with? I get a bit of an incense scent but I think the predominate “farmy”/fishy notes must be natural to the tobacco itself.

A good question for @Manit_Joshi Perhaps he can share some information without giving away any secrets.

I believe they send the oldest or sickest snuff grinder in first, otherwise short straw of the draw. Maybe one with no family. Whoever it is I bet he has the “look” in his eyes when he is done.

magic yogis and estatic dancing are the main methods I think.

Its made from pain, suffering and loss of amenity!

I thought it was the dried and powdered tears of its defeated enemies. Shows what I know.

I’ve heard so much about it I’m wondering not how it’s made, but _ why _… :)) I might have to try it…

I always thought they dug it out of the mines under the dead sea

It’s made of caustic soda (NaOH) and a pinch of tobacco

As much as I hate to be the one to say it, I think we might be looking at a case of tobacco rights abuse. If you’ve ever studied it, many cultures - Asian specifically - believe that if you torture an animal before you butcher it, you imbue the meat with animalistic rage and that eating it upps your vitality when you imbibe. My current theory is that Dholakia is attempting to take this principle and apply it to tobacco leaves. Who knows what sort of cruel and unusual punishment those poor plants are going through? WHEN WILL THE INJUSTICE END?!?!?

Great thread. Why do they make that evil powder? Is it punishment for past transgressions or in anticipation of future ones? That is one genre of snuff I’ve yet to develop an affinity for. It’s like taking a nice refreshing pinch of Drano.

Great thread. Why do they make that evil powder? Is it punishment for past transgressions or in anticipation of future ones? That is one genre of snuff I’ve yet to develop an affinity for. It’s like taking a nice refreshing pinch of Drano.

@chefdaniel, I’m surprised to hear you say that. You’re a fine, dry toast aficionado, by your own account. I always figured that people who like the toasts are a small jump away from appreciating the whites. They are quite different, but in some ways, I find them almost interchangeable.

@JakartaBoy‌ I do love toasts. I just can’t seem to find the tobacco in the whites. I jest at the burn factor; it’s not that hard to take, for me at least. I guess I need more practice to find the natural tobacco scent I find in toasts and plains. For example, I know I’m an apostate for my opinion on F&T; great tobacco crafted with skill and care, then ruined by spilling the entire Macy’s perfume counter, a few urinal cakes and some Ivory Snow in for good measure. I think my mother weaned me on HDT and I love it; Lundy Foot and Havana Toast are far better IMHO, but my wallet and my wife tend to tighten up when I buy too much of those two. Not in a good way. My impressions of the whites I’ve tried and traded away were of a bleached toast that someone spilled Thai fish sauce into; nothing against fish mind you, I’m still waiting for Roderick to develop a Gentleman’s Relish snuff. I’m just not there yet. Any advice you can lend is as always greatly appreciated. Cheers

@chefdaniel, I know what you mean about missing the tobacco scent. As much as I like the whites, if I take them all day – they are my standard out-and-about snuffs, I really look forward to the rich, chocolate tobacco flavor of HDT or Viking Dark. It’s not nicotine, the whites have that in spades. But they have their own tobacco flavour, so different it might be a sub-species. Have you ever tried a bidi, the pungent little Indian mini cigars? I’m convinced it’s the same type of tobacco, despite the denials of the Indian producers on the forum.

For me its lack of overbearing scent is one attraction to the whites. There are plenty of snuffs which can give you scent overload where the subtle nature of the whites scent makes it shine. Pure nicotine satisfaction is the other area which they excel. All the different types of snuff are what makes this a great hobby.

@JakartaBoy‌ you hit the high notes of HDT right on the mark! The 3 Viking plains are also very good and I manage to empty a few tins from time to time. I’ve yet to try a bidi, so I’m once again remiss from adhering to my tobacco agenda. I will remedy this situation soonest.

Bidi? Those cigarettes that look like they are wrapped in a leaf? I have tried those. Not impressed. It’s too long to remember exactly why I didn’t like it though. I think something about harshness. At the time I smoked hand rolled non filtered top tobacco.

Searching bidi just pissed me off. 3 of the top photos for image were about cancer and, how it was the companies fault. I have never seen anyone blame Karkov for cirrhosis of the liver. I know tobacco companies are, not really ever hurt that much when they are sue’d it just seems like people should know that lighting something on fire and, inhaling it is probably bad for your health. It’s like when people tried to sue gun companies for making weapons that people used to murder people. I know this is a hot topic I was compelled to post it anyways.

Although I may be wrongly mad. I can not read what it says on the package of bidis so it might say this can save your life. Doubt it.

I think it is made from a mix of stardust and dragons tears combined with a wee bit of tobacco dust with a lathering of added nicotine to help hold it all together.

Bidi? Those cigarettes that look like they are wrapped in a leaf? I have tried those. Not impressed. It’s too long to remember exactly why I didn’t like it though. I think something about harshness. At the time I smoked hand rolled non filtered top tobacco.

It was a university student affectation of mine, many decades ago. And they were dirt cheap. One of the biggest problems with them is that they just won’t stay alight. You need to apply a lighter practically every time you inhale. If you tear one apart, you’ll see that the leaf is about the consistency of a dried bay leaf. They ARE quite harsh and acrid. But so are the White Indians. For some reason, I like that in the snuff much more than in the bidi. I should add that @6photo has categorically denied that there is any relationship between Cheeta and bidi, and he would be in a much better position to tell than me. Although he was also quite cagey about how it was actually made – fair enough, I don’t see any of the other manufacturers handing out their recipes on this forum, either.

I read somewhere, I believe it was on the Dholakia website that the Dholakia White has Punjab Rustica in it among other premium tobacco varieties. Apparently Indian tobacco farmers grow very unique varieties to their region of the world and the Rustica they use from the Punjab region of India, hence “Punjab Rustica” is different from the Rustica that Toque sells for example. However it’s made and whatever’s in it Dholakia White and 41 Photo White Elephant which is very similar IMO have slowly but surely become 2 of my most favorite snuffs.

Very cool @md363. White snuffs really are the bees’ knees. They’re so complex. Every time I use them they’re a little different. Sometimes they smell like rotting fish, sometimes they smell like manure, sometimes they smell like yeast, sometimes they smell like incense, sometimes they smell like exotic nuts of some kind. So I never get bored of 'em.

3/5 are bad smells. Sounds risky to me. I will probably get it some time though.

@horus92‌ i agree with you about the different scents you get on different occasions and also the texture of the D. White is very appealing to me for some reason. I guess it’s because it’s so silky smooth and soft, like powdered sugar or talcum powder, it’s by far the finest snuff I’ve yet tried. @Igglet don’t let the description of the scents turn you off of it too much, at first I really got the fishy smell and wasn’t too sure if I’d stick with it, but after a couple of days I started to really love that fishy smell. I can’t recommend it enough.

As olde pal @basement_shaman said before his odd disappearance; Indian Snuffs are a different ball game. After all the hype over the White Elephant I got a tin a couple of years ago; first impression was that it was dried prawns and fish food held together with elephant piss. It took a few pinches but to be fair I really rate whites these days. These or toasts are my favourite wake-up snuffs.

Yes but, if I started to like fish smells I might eat fish and, I have had a long relationship of not eating it for about 10 years.

I guess I lied. I like Swordfish but, That taste like no other fish that I know of.

Once you get past the smell you’ve got it licked. I don’t think “they” were talking about snuff.

Once you get past the smell you’ve got it licked. I don’t think “they” were talking about snuff.

Oh my!