Hi everyone, I’ve switched from using dip to using snuff. For those of you who aren’t familiar with dip, it’s absolutely loaded with nicotine … loaded! So to compensate, I find myself using what I would imagine are huge amounts of snuff very frequently. Being new to this endeavor, I don’t know what would be considered typical usage. I know for smoking cigarettes, a pack a day is about average … the marker used to gauge whether one is a heavy or light smoker. But for snuff, what’s the average? I know everyone is different. But like I said, I’m pounding a lot of it down throughout the day, so I’m wondering what you guys’ habits look like. I’ve been using a snuff spoon, and that thing is pretty loaded up for each nostril, and each nostril is usually treated a couple times at one sitting, just to give you an idea. I end up with so much snuff up there that I have a near-steady stream of back-drip that I have to spit into a bottle, like I’m dipping, lol Thanks troop

I’m kinda wondering if that’s why you’re getting drip issues, troop. Nasal overload maybe. Might be worth trying to layer up a bit instead. A modest sized spoonful per side, and wait till that gets soggy before topping up. My frequency depends what I’m snuffing, whether I’m busy or relaxing, and where I am. Could be a small pinch every couple of minutes to top up or layer flavours, or a slightly bigger pinch of a slow release coarse snuff and refresh when circumstances permit. Most of my day is actually NOT snuffing, as it’s often more convenient/appropriate to get my nic fix via other means.

A snuff spoon isn’t an accurate measurement. How big, size of a pea? or apple seed? You’re a heavy snuffer at 5+ grams daily ,I say most regulars here average 2-3 grams My milage varies, fine dry snuff you get more volume per gram than a moist snuff. It is all irrelevant to me ,Snuff is not my sole source of Vitamin N. Frequency If I am busy once or twice an hour, if I am idle 5-6 time an hour. I can go without for any extended time. I use it for pleasure!

I’m at 2g a day, but I think as long as you aren’t getting any adverse effects from the nicotine you’re ok. May want to find some higher nicotine snuff of you’re worried about quantity of snuff

at work every 50 minutes one single pinch to more than half gram. At home every 15-20 minutes. Again one pinch to six pinches.

Hmmm. So Basement and 50ft, do you guys smoke in addition to snuffing? My snuff spoon can hold a solid pea in it.

I’m kinda wondering if that’s why you’re getting drip issues, troop. Nasal overload maybe. Might be worth trying to layer up a bit instead. A modest sized spoonful per side, and wait till that gets soggy before topping up.

I’m new, so I’m not familiar with layering? Will you please expound on that for me? Thanks guys troop

Yes, i’m a relatively low snuff user. Most of my nic fix still comes from the cigs. I also vape and have dabbled with snus and chew As for the layering (my term, not sure what others would call it) I often take a smaller pinch and let that start stewing, then when it all mushy and is at risk of running, take another pinch, and so on. You end up with the same amount of snuff, but my nose accepts it better. If I load in too much snuff at once, especially after a while not taking a pinch, my nose will sometimes gush to flush out the foreign objects, and the snuff doesn’t always stay where it should. Taking it steady and layering up works better for me. It may or may not for you, but thought it was worth suggesting. I also use this technique for taking the fine snuffs (using a coarser snuff first) as I have an awkward nose and it’s the only way I can use the finer snuffs.

if unencumbered, i’ll do small pinches every 15-30 minutes or so…sometimes with coarser snuffs (usually evening time ) I’ll take very large pinches or boxcars to get a good “whack”> at the most in one day, probably around 3 grams but usually less than that. I like the nicotine buzz but I like snuffing more than the nicotine itself- I’m able to do more of the lower nicotine varieties, because I won’t be feeling too crazy after a ton of snuffing.

@troop111 I too am a heavy dipper trying to ease up. Been dippin for almost 38 years. Started back when it was Cope, Skoal, and Happy Days and that was it and it all came in waxed cardboard can. Just lost my first tooth last year Mama is so proud! Anyway I started snuffing at about 3-4 grams a day and just dippin when I am outside. You know the lawn ain’t that bad to sleep on if you got a good pillow. Just hit it as hard as you need to. Your body will let you know. If this helps I find snuff slower in release of N then dip. The more urges to dip that you over come by using snuff, no matter the amount of snuff, the sooner you will be dropping gears on the dip and there by the urges. Which in turn can allow you to back off a little on the ole black river down your gullet. Just my non educated yet humble opinion. BTW depending on the snuff, I use two Mr. Snuff stainless steel level spoonful per nostril about every 13 minutes (yes I have timed it, I drive a lot). If I get fired up I will use more, if I get pissed my wife and kids will find my dip!

@Banjo777 Wow that’s a long time to be dipping! I smoked for about 14 years then switched to dip for the past 3 or so. I use a lot of it Well, I haven’t dipped in 6 days, which is great, but dang I’ll get myself worked into a snuff stupor where my nose is packed and I’m hawking up all kinds of crap from the throat drip, lol. I’m using a spit bottle just as if I were dipping It doesn’t bother me, I just thought that perhaps I was overdoing it vis-a-vis how snuff ought to be used (although I suppose there never really is an “ought” in these matters). And yea, I use the stainless steel spoon from Mr. Snuff (https://mrsnuff.com/product\\_info.php?cPath=22\\_169&products\\_id=1538). And like you, I snuff about two spoonfuls in each nostril at a time, then I’ll refresh it every few minutes. (This is when I’m relaxing … I don’t refresh all day … and this continuous “refreshing” is when I get my snuff stupor going as described above ) When you say you find snuff is slower in its nicotine release, are you speaking of snuff in general or a particular brand/type? @50ft_trad I’ll definitely be keeping that in mind and trying your methods. troop

@troop111 I really was speaking about snuff in general, but I have found that Sir Walter Scott’s snuff (love me some figgy goodness) has a good (fast) nic hit, and I have read on here where the Indian snuff is pretty strong as far as nic. There are way more people here that can help you better than I as far as which has the biggest nic hit. However I am here for you brother on the switchin from dip to snuff! As Bill used to say “I feel your pain”.

Here I live solely on snuff. I grind my own which is very coarse now, so I easily get 4/5 grams a day. But it’s mainly Maryland tobacco which is kinda low in nicotine. As that isn’t important to me I believe in statisfication by enjoying, not the amount of an unphysical substance I have never seen.

Snuff is my sole source of nicotine. At work, I only take a couple of pinches per nostril every half hour to an hour. But in the morning before work, and as soon as I get home, it’s once every ten mins. The frequency tends to reduce towards bed time. I think my pinches are quite a bit smaller than yours, from what you say. When I gave up e-cigs, my snuff taking went a bit chaotic (my nose nearly packed its bags and left home), but it settled down into it’s current pattern after about a month. It was a transition stage. The key for me is keeping it in the front of the nose and blowing out the old snuff before refilling (so to speak). That way I don’t overload … I still get back drip, but not as much as you do judging by how you describe it. As one of your aims is to switch from dip to snuff, you sound like your doing really well @troop111 !

Hi everyone, I’ve switched from using dip to using snuff. For those of you who aren’t familiar with dip, it’s absolutely loaded with nicotine … loaded! So to compensate, I find myself using what I would imagine are huge amounts of snuff very frequently. Being new to this endeavor, I don’t know what would be considered typical usage. I know for smoking cigarettes, a pack a day is about average … the marker used to gauge whether one is a heavy or light smoker. But for snuff, what’s the average? I know everyone is different. But like I said, I’m pounding a lot of it down throughout the day, so I’m wondering what you guys’ habits look like. I’ve been using a snuff spoon, and that thing is pretty loaded up for each nostril, and each nostril is usually treated a couple times at one sitting, just to give you an idea. I end up with so much snuff up there that I have a near-steady stream of back-drip that I have to spit into a bottle, like I’m dipping, lol Thanks troop

Hi Troop Congratulations on moving away from dip btw, a wise move. I never get any back drip and I would never use any of the accessories like snuff spoons or bullets. Just use the pitch method but use your fingers to reduce air flow as you sniff, you only need small pitches as the inside of your nose is such a small area to cover. I find to much snuff sniffed too hard is where your back drip or excessive back drip is coming from. Like most when working its a pinch 1-2 hours, at home every 20-30 mins for enjoyment

I smoke pipe tobacco and use oral tobacco. Snuff by weight is my smallest consumption in comparison. But my largest in frequency. I do know some people that chew nicotine gum for over 10 years; to each their own. I can’t change anyone only enlighten them to this wonderful vice.

Thank you guys for all your replies, tips, and suggestions So I guess as relative to the amount of nicotine that my body is accustomed to getting via the dip, then I’m not snuffing too much at all @Banjo777 Since it seems we both snuff the same large amounts from that spoon - 2 spoons per nostril every 13 minutes - do you have any struggles with backbdrip? Do you find yourself using a spitter as if you were dipping? troop

I take 2 pinches (to each nostril) at least 5 times a day keeps the doctor far away

@troop111 I do get some back dip and sometimes a lot, but no I just gut the juice. My biggest problem is the need for nicotine while I am working with my hands. I am not as strong as you, I still dip on occasion. Like today I was planting pear trees for my wife and was dipping cause it is hard to operate a shovel and take snuff at the same time. Sometimes I wish I was a smoker instead of a dipper. Smokers are accustom to a time gap in between nicotine dosing where as, we dippers, just hit a highlighter and moved on. The people on the forum are great but I think some of them lack the understanding of the transition from dip to snuff. Red Seal wintergreen long cut was in my mouth from morning till I brushed my teeth to go to bed. I enjoy snuff a lot and it is becoming my go to nicotine source, but it is just that a nicotine source that I hope is less harmful to my body. The fact that I really enjoy some snuffs is just icing on the cake. Let’s face it I used to carry just one can of dip now I am carrying at least three containers of different flavored snuffs. So with all that said my opinion is this… If I had to carry a spit cup to use snuff instead of dip I most certainly would carry one! I don’t know about you but I can now taste the chemicals in my dip when I have one. I have 1/4 of a can left and I am going to do my best to make it my last can of dip, even if I have to chew Bloodhound plug, which of course I like but it leaves me awfully thrist! Sorry for the rambling.

@Troop111 - Twice in one day - Lucky you! Dip is one of the most effective and long lasting methods of getting vitamin N into the blood stream. However, dip carries greater health risks than nasal snuff - snus is the definately the best way to go for oral consumption, if thats your only option or preference I’d personally suggest that you aqauint yourself with strong white snuff &/or rustica, or rustica based snuffs if you want to phase out oral use. 41 Photo White elephant, Willie Pete & Dakota White are all good choices, if you can get Toque Rustica fine I’d really recommend that. Snuff before you need to and keep your nose clean - It makes a big difference in terms of nicotine absorbsion. If you work most of the time with your hands and get dirty, consider using a bullet. Although this lacks finesse, dirt or petrol scented snuff isn’t good try not to be concerned about using snuff pre-emptively; you never really thought “Hey, I’ve had this pouch/portion in my mouth for ages” did you? Don’t be at all concerned if your snuffing pretty frequently, just blow, snuff repeat Personally I’d suggest not double dosing if at all possible, i.e. don’t dip/chew and snuff in the same session, greater amounts of nicotine isn’t going to help you loose dipping if that’s what you’d really like to do. Transistion is always difficult, it always involves a journey from one place to a different destination; the secret to travel is to enjoy the journey and not worry about where you’ll end up too much - Good luck on yours anyways dude; you’re on the right path, just keep walking on and enjoy the scenery (and lovely scents!) along the way

@MisterPaul very well stated and rather inspirational. “the secret to travel is to enjoy the journey and not worry about where you’ll end up” Is that your own or are you quoting someone?

@wanderingwoodsmith - Why thank you; that’s very kind of you to say :"> It was off the cuff actually… I just say what I feel. Sadly [for me] a google moment later; it seems I’m not that much of an original thinker after all: According to that: The phrase originated in 1920 in a periodical called “The Christian Advocate”. The phrase was used by the theologian Lynn H. Hough within his outline for a Sunday School Lesson discussing a letter from Simon Peter. “He wanted his friends to realize that life is a journey and not a destination; that the heart must be set upon those matters of character which are eternal and not upon those matters of sensation which pass away.” Apparently in 1993 the rock band Aerosmith released the single Amazing which also contains this phrase!

@MisterPaul that kind of thinking would be very off key in any Sunday school I’ve seen in modern times. But nonetheless it is a great piece of wisdom.

Excellent advice! Thanks so much guys

From 4:30pm to 11:59pm, very rarely in am. But it is 5am everywhere sometimes.

I try to pack fairly large amounts of thick coarse snuff, it is a lot easier to maintain longer periods of nicotine. I went from smoking to POS ecigs for a couple years, and quit that bunch of bs using snuff and chewing tobacco. The chewing tobacco happened on accident. I have dipped and chewed off and on not really too habitually for long. Why I said it was an accident, was I accidentally ordered a bundle of Makla, and was repulsed at first, but gave it a shot and WHEW! That stuff was intense, insane, head spinning nicotine goodness. Really wanted to order more, but ended up just chewing Levi Garrett for a few months. Then eventually quit only because I was using all 3 ecigs, snuff, and chew… It was just too much crap in my pockets, the snuff won because it was simple. I used A LOT at first, now my nasal tells me when im at max capacity and eventually either runs out my face or drains. Then, you are getting the long lasting nicotine feeling that I believe you are missing, as you have to gut that shit. Not like dip where it is very disturbing to ingest even a little bit. Anyway, there wasnt much point to anything I just typed, but, you may check out the Makla some day, or you may come back here and tell me im disgusting… for suggesting to dip something that is debate able as being some sort of camel poop.

@coreymillia So you find that swallowing the throat-drip from snuff is more tolerable on the body (not just the senses) than dip juice? Dip can give me heart burn at times even though I spit it out (I guess some of the juice drips down my throat without me knowing it).

I think quite a lot goes down without us knowing! Sometimes I think it’s giving me indigestion, but it turns out to be the family bag of Kettle Chips I ate whilst watching TV. So I don’t worry now, and take as much snuff as I feel like. But I do blow my nose a lot.

I agree with coreymillia on trying Makla. You don’t need much, use it like snus; it delivers nicotine fast. It is pretty sharp in texture I only had the platinum and it not very tasty but I got hooked.

@coreymillia , @basement_shaman , I have a can of Makla Platinum, haven’t had a chance to play with it. It is a weird muddy -looking thing but I kinda like the aroma ( ammonia + who knows what )…I might try this weekend and report back. This dude “Outlaw” has a funny you tube series and features Makla on one episode- frikin hilarious!

@troop111 I do, not really sure why, but I dipped for a while, and liked it a lot, but the problem was ingesting on accident. I feel its not only more tolerable, but rather enjoyable (sometimes its rough if you dont have something to wash it down with. I use a strong coarse tobacco through out the day. Usually after 30-45 min of a few LARGE pinches, it drains. Its a similar feeling you get, when say you try to drink anything while having a chunk of tobacco in your mouth. Except, with dip it felt like there was A LOT more tobacco juice, and sometimes I would want to barf. Chew, not so much. With snuff its different more of a burn, and its like, damn, this stuff is working now, then im relaxed, and ready for anything. Not really sure what is in either of them but there is something in dip that makes gutting it terrible. Plus, they both have a lot more nicotine than nasal snuff, there are days I miss a nice big chaw of tobacco. Like… right now. @jmahes It dries out kind of quick, or I stored mine improperly… just beware… that shit made me crave more, despite the first month that I had it I stored it in the yard to try to scare off the skunk and savage raccoons. What you do is roll a little chunk up, and shove it in your upper lip. Oh man… I almost want to order some… Time for some schmalzler.

@coreymillia , haha sounds good!

@coreymillia Okay, so you feel a greater release of nicotine when you swallow the snuff throat drip?

Small pinches every few minutes a little while after waking up, combined with some black or green tea. Only about once per hour at most, when I’m outside studying or working. I’m just not comfortable enough with having the stuff in my face and nose when I’m around people. But in the evenings …I’m holding incontinent snuff orgies like it would be my last day of using snuff. I guess I’m overcompensating the accrued cravings of the day :))

Whenever the urge hits me which is usually all day long…

Best whenever I feel like it! No need to story it.

@troop111 Yeah for sure, I mean thats when it feels like I am getting a proper dose of nicotine. Well, technically balancing a large pile inside your face with out it going anywhere gives me the most nicotine. But if it starts to act up I turn my head backwards, rather than getting a runny nose, the drain is like the icing on a cake. However, if it feels thick like snot, I hack that shit up. Sometimes blowing my nose is inevitable. It only happens a couple times per day also. Pretty much depending on how my day is going, or where I’m at.

Consumption went up dramatically after I quit heavy cigar smoking. The last time this subject came up I calculated about eight grams of coarse snuff a day – a tricky computation as I generally buy canisters by the pound in weight. Pinches are as large as possible, taken frequently throughout the day. I rarely notice the effect of nicotine, but feel uncomfortable if I go for more than 30 minutes without taking some more.

I use snus and snuff at the same time sometimes. I snuff a few times a day and use snus and an e-cig when I don’t snuff. Sometimes I"ll put it down for a week, then go back at it. I recall when I used to smoke cigs, i ran out of them. I snuffed every 10-15 minutes that night. A few pinches here and there. I have snuffed a bunch all at once and that’s fun too. Your body will tell you how much you should use.