That has been the question on here. Well the tins where designed yonks ago, for snuff and pipe tobacco. Round the edge on some it states “Twist With A Penny” A British penny now is far to small. You need a pre decimalised large one, like my thin, and very warn 1881 Victorian one, or a wide flat bladed screwdriver. For our American friends 240 penny’s equalled a £1 Now only 100 new penny’s equal a £1. We got robbed when we went to your more simple system of dissimilation.

Twisting with a £2 coin can work… I guess it’s a sort of inflationary thing!

I generally use the large flathead screwdriver on my Swiss army knife, which is usually near at hand. Just a twist, turn the can, and another twist. Easy.

Good thinking, there’s is a flat blade on a Swiss army knife. It had me just wondering. The Swiss people are so proficient. But never make war.

@ ermtony, If your rich, and can smoke pipe tobacco. Then finding a £2 coin in your pocket, is no problem! I stay just with my old coins, I don’t need this decimation. And TV with no analog transmissions, no set top boxes here, I can’t afford the batteries for my remote unit. I know, my TY is doomed. Why did the British Government do this to me. Tomorrow, I may be revolting!

Analog TV is dead here, now. I must say the digital transmission is beautiful (though you have to have the digital TV to recieve it.) We use cable, but I play around with antennas, and was able to pick up DC over 100 miles away with rabbit ears. Clear, crisp and bette than the cable. Now I have to convince the family that cable is rubbish and we shouldn’t pay for it. Do you still have to pay for simple antenna reception in the UK?

Lovely old tin Snuffhead. If you DO decide to rebell let me know. I might just join you.

50p will work.

@ petersuki. I’m revolting all of the time, and all my ‘would be friends’ know that.

Snuffhead - bet you’re not revolting as much as me

@Xander you have to have a tv licence here. Which is basically a rip off tax to keep the rabidly left wing politically correct BBC going. Also if you want satellite or cable tv you have to pay monthly for it as well as the tv licence, which is a yearly payment. Apart from the licence, you don’t have to pay anything for Freeview which is digital telly you get through an ordinary ariel. Stefan

Thanks Stefan, I did PM Xander with some details, but you have given more details that I was thinking, My head is thinking about REVOLTING.

I had a british friend who didn’t have t.v. yet they tried to get him on not paying the liscence

Bob, That story is not surprising. The TV licence people assume that EVERYONE has a TV, and have been known to send nasty warning letters to those who don’t even own a TV.

Snuffhead. A few years ago I used a TV/PC interface. TV on your PC. bet you can get these little adapters for pennies on ebay. I’d send you my old one but I think I don’t have the software disc. Have you thought about this solution? Would you strictly need a TV licence for a PC? Just some thoughts. I’ll take a look at what I’ve got.

@petersuki it doesn’t mater whether its on a pc mobile phone or pocket tv you have to pay the £145.50 enforced tax even if you don’t watch the stupid BBC.

@petersuki with the new LCD and LED TVs you don’t even need an adapter you just plug the computer right into the TV like a monitor

Yes and I I see that on my pc I’ve got Media Centre TV. Don’t think it works too well off antena but I could plug my digi box in and it’s all ready to go. Not too hard to turn your PC into a usable TV one way or another. The only thing going for the less and less justifiable licence is that it’s possible to listen to or watch programmes occassionally without those F***ing irritating, moronic adds.

A license to watch TV. Wow. How history repeats itself. Sorry guys, the emperor’s clothes are looking thinner each day and he’s also fat and ugly. My condolences to the people who are enduring such nonsense. Obviously, I object.

What is more objectionable: the state provision or the endless attempts to brain wash by ‘private’ advertisers? There are no ‘ads’ on the BBC. I could not insert a playing card between unbridled marketing and unbridled state interference. The arguments are endless: for instance, I gather that the US governmnet provides huge quantities of cash to health provision, and yet it remains unaffordable to many sufferers. Where does the money go? Obviously, I object. Just so that I am not taken to be politicking, which is a no no here, I’ll call the two sides Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee

Here here! I say we start with the lawyers.

I’d like to know what percentage of the world’s capital is in the hands of say, the wealthiest 1000 people at this odd stage we have now got to. I’m NOT being political here, just perplexed with the ease with which a tiny minority seem to be able syphon off what is sent into the system to get the engine running. Reiterate, I’m not being political, just that we all know that this is a pretty funky state of affairs we are all now in. Perhaps I’m sailing to close to the wind or, put it another way, making too much noise in this house, which is a quiet and peaceful place and long may it remain so.

Now how do you suggest I get this lid off?

I’m just thinking of getting a tent and live in the middle of nowhere. Trouble is then no Snuffhouse :-(. Stefan

Just watching the news now, Stefan, - hang on to your hat. Nearer my neck of the woods than yours though. I’m reaching for that Cheeta you recommended.

Don’t blame ya Peter, London is disintegrating before us. Glad I’m 150 miles away. Stefan

I’m in Croydon, Stefan. Set off to work in the centre tomorrow. Don’t know if anything in the office will be working. There’s quite a bit of fire there right now. Might mess things up a bit. I don’t want my wife to set off on the tram to Wimbledon, the lines beside the fire were actually burning. What if it kicks off whilst she’s at work? Crumbs of Comfort for me and so to bed.

OK this was about opening snuff tins, it got political, and now we have the London riots. I’m now closing this thread.