I just have no words for this. Maybe it should come with a warning FOR USE ONLY IF WORKING IN SEWERS and even then you’d have to be desperate possibly preferring the sewer smell.

I like the f&t version more than the WoS, but Morlaix isn’t a favourite with me. Don’t dislike it tho. It’s just one I wouldn’t buy in bulk.

I find it difficult even to use enough to give it a proper try but I am trying or else I will have to rid myself of it’s presence. Wierd thing is WOS got my order wrong and then brilliantly sent me this complimentary tin but very dissapointingly it turns out to be my least favourite snuff possibly to date although maybe Royal George was equally awful. On the good side I will know never to order this or anything comparable again although I should have learned after the Royale George but I was fooled by the glowing review on MR Snuff from Toffee Nose. I think afterwards I remembered a lot of people had dissed it on one of threads here I think somethnig about least favourite snuffs. I’m not really impressed with the F&T range, 10 of which I have and about 4 I like and am impressed with and would re-order, 2 okish, and the rest not bothered but I wish I had never come across Morlaix. I’ve mixed a little Old Paris and Bureau in but it still overpowers with it’s arrrgggggeeeeyyyaaeeewwwwooooo

Same happened to me with F&T Princes Special but after a year of sampling it every now and then I´m starting to appreciate it, everyone to his own, some snuffs need time to get hold on you…

When I smell it in the tin I actually find it quite pleasant but it completely changes and turns to a horrible baby powder musk once I snuff it. Trying mixing a little Wos Rose in but I don’t thank anything will work well with Morlaix. Could it be that it’s just to fresh and might improve with airing?

Same happened to me with F&T Princes Special but after a year of sampling it every now and then I´m starting to appreciate it, everyone to his own, some snuffs need time to get hold on you…

I felt the same way about F & T Seville, why would I want the aroma of a clean baby diaper with powder or lotion combined in my nose… But after @Wulfensteinsson…mentioned it may need time to get a hold on you… I went to the separate drawer where I keep my I non-favorites… I snuffed it-- it was okay- but went back on the same drawer… So my view on it changed a little – I still would trade it, in a MIAMI MINUTE or faster A NEW YORK NICK OF TIME!

I’m with you, I wouldn’t go that far maybe but yeah I remember getting some cherry from it but mostly soapiness and it’s definitely not one I’ll be ordering again.

I’m not really impressed with the F&T range, 10 of which I have and about 4 I like and am impressed with and would re-order, 2 okish, and the rest not bothered but I wish I had never come across Morlaix.

As a new snuffer considering buying their first F&T’s I’de be really interested to know which four these are?

I’m not really impressed with the F&T range, 10 of which I have and about 4 I like and am impressed with and would re-order, 2 okish, and the rest not bothered but I wish I had never come across Morlaix.

As a new snuffer considering buying their first F&T’s I’de be really interested to know which four these are?

HDT, Macouba, Bordeau, Morocco. I think these are generally the most popular. They are my safe, no need to mess about and see if I like them in a year or so, favourites. Old Paris is pretty good also like a peaty brandy liqueur scent. Bureau seems bearable. but it depends what you like e.g if you like dark moist coarse snuff then Santo Domingo or Princess might be better for you and I find them ok but just not my favourites. Morlaix I just really don’t like and I don’t think I like the Seville either although I initially though I might but had a nose so full of other snuffs and it wasn’t a clear thing so I still have to try that one more also.

@BigRiggers01 i enjoy HDT if you like fine/dry, i like bordeaux, santo domingo (but its very moist, and is the only tub ive lost to mould part way through). not particularly fond of macouba or princes special, not had any others. depends what sort of snuffs you enjoy already. when making orders i always include atleast one im not sure of, to widen my experience.

I like it, something for everyone, obviously this ain’t your something I’m sure you like something I can’t stand, different strokes for different folks, the only F&T I don’t care for is Seville, a little to baby powderish for me.

We’ve all had those particular snuff that for some reason don’t register well even though good quality snuff. When you think " I snuffed it, good thing I didn’t step in it".

I’m not really impressed with the F&T range, 10 of which I have and about 4 I like and am impressed with and would re-order, 2 okish, and the rest not bothered but I wish I had never come across Morlaix.

As a new snuffer considering buying their first F&T’s I’de be really interested to know which four these are?

HDT, Macouba, Bordeau, Morocco. I think these are generally the most popular. They are my safe, no need to mess about and see if I like them in a year or so, favourites. Old Paris is pretty good also like a peaty brandy liqueur scent. Bureau seems bearable. but it depends what you like e.g if you like dark moist coarse snuff then Santo Domingo or Princess might be better for you and I find them ok but just not my favourites. Morlaix I just really don’t like and I don’t think I like the Seville either although I initially though I might but had a nose so full of other snuffs and it wasn’t a clear thing so I still have to try that one more also.

I hated Seville at first. Found it wholly unpleasant. Now it’s possibly my favourite F&T. Your tastes *will* change.

A big problem with some of the F&T scents is their association with toiletries such as soaps. If you can get past that and make new scent associations you should find these scents quite pleasant. The somewhat low nicotine in some of these makes this a bit of a chore so I can’t really say it is worth the effort. The easiest way to do this with minimal consciousness would be to simply take a pinch before you go to sleep or in the middle of the night. I would say take a pinch every once in a while but these scents tend to linger and the next few pinches afterwards will be ruined (not a good association). Certainly you should not try to mix snuffs you detest as you will just mess other snuffs up with it (again a bad association). Regardless, you don’t have to use them but they may come in handy for letting the ladies try or as a “chill pill”.

@Juxtaposer I find this to be the case with French Carotte. Way too soapy smelling and I’ve never gotten used to it and I do still try it from time-to-time to see if my opinion changes. It doesn’t. Too soapy.

My taste at present does not seem to be for F&T’s. I think they could well languish long in my drawer except the HDT which I use fairly regularly in my toast blend and the occasional bullet of some of the others. Trying some Seville today mixed with Best SP and Strasbourg which produces a citrus soapy musk and it’s not to bad but my brain is really saying no, this is not what you want, there are more preferable enjoyable things such as the SWS and Abraxas and I’m waiting on Taxi Blue etc and even the Toques and WOS are better for regular use. These F&T’s have a place in snuffdom somewhere, probably in medieval/victorian times. Don’t let those cute tins fool you! There is no doubt about the quality but it looks like they will be at the back of the drawer except I will be ordering a large HDT soon as this is the only one that I have almost emptied. Maybe they need a modernising revamp, add more nic, make them more all day useable and then they could possibly be quite fantastic?

I like it, something for everyone, obviously this ain’t your something I’m sure you like something I can’t stand, different strokes for different folks, the only F&T I don’t care for is Seville, a little to baby powderish for me.

Thats really wierd. It’s Morlaix I find is the baby powder and Seville is the soap but it’s the massive overdose of musk that seems to be the common problem with them both, that and the baby powder and soap. It’s all wrong or badly executed or purely aimed at the (elderly) female market? Nevertheless whatever snuff anyone enjoys, I wish you continued enjoyment.

Though I can’t claim to have tried all the F&T range I am fond of HDT [a true classic IMO], Old Paris (likewise), Bureau & French Carotte… As I_snuff_therefore___ points out, these are very old school 18 century/Victorian type snuffs that at that time would have probably been a welcome relief from an everyday environment that involved sewage flowing down the street or being thrown from the windows above you Someone gave me an excellent tip with these snuffs - only take teeny tiny pinch! The highly scented ones are definitely not all day snuffs for me. Bureau, though my favourite nightcap snuff, contains Morlaix I believe [geranium/violet type odour?] I was really disappointed with when I first got it as after a couple of big pinches I basically wanted to jet wash my nose However, little sniff occasionally I now find really pleasant and I’m glad that I stayed with it I have a similar experences with Royal George, Jockey Club and Wallflower.

On the good side I will know never to order this or anything comparable again although I should have learned after the Royale George but I was fooled by the glowing review on MR Snuff from Toffee Nose.

@I_snuff_therefore___ : Sorry you don’t care for Morlaix and that my review was partly responsible for you trying it. I have also got snuffs on the strength of other members’ reviews and sometimes found that they weren’t for me. On the bright side, at least you didn’t have to spend money on it!

Morlaix is my favourite F&T perfumed snuff

One thing this thread shows is how we can all have such varying preferences. It’s not even having paid or got it for free that’s the main thing, it’s the dissapointment in trying out new snuff and it not being a find that you like is the toughest part I think. I should have stuck with the 4 I had in the begining the HDT, Macouba, Bordeau and Old Paris but liking these I went for another 6 of the range and thats were it went wrong with Morocco being the only good find and it’s pretty much like Macouba anyhow. I think I feel better now after my rant. It’s history, part of the learning curve. .

use the ones you REALLY dont like to trade away for ones you do enjoy/more new ones you havent experienced. i also find that with snuffs that are too strongly perfumed, mixing with a plain and toning it down can make all the difference.

I like most of the F&Ts, although Morlaix is one I have not tried. HDT, Macouba, French Carotte, Old Paris, and Morocco are all excellent. I don’t like the Santo Domingo and Princes series. Not because they are bad snuffs at all, but because they make me sneezy for some reason.

I just mixed some F&T Bordeau (now that’s a nice one that I would always want to have about) with some Bureau and Strasbourg and that blend seems pretty nice. Would be a good fresh one to take out with me but I also mixed some more Lundy Foot with FireDrac and that is just in a completely higher devision of desire but ironically may not be such a good one to use when out and about as the first blend above. Probably if I had never tried these SWS/Abraxas snuff then I wouldn’t be so hard on the F&T’s but they are so comlpetely different and so it’s the SWS/Abraxas that currently I am definitely in favour of but I’m only using them little by little as a treat and I think I appreciate them more that way besides the FirDrac still burns the nose off me even dilluted with the Lundy but I’m getting to like it. Really a new snuff experience I never want to be without or else find something to improve on it. I’m sure we all as snuff users only wish to find the snuffs that we enjoy most and that the makers are trying their best to produce those snuffs while realising the impossibility of pleasing all the people all the time and as with food, tastes vary so widely, it took me about 30 years to come to appreciate beetroot and only in summer and in moderation. Maybe some of these snuffs are just my beetroot equivalent.

Moralaix is my favorite F&T snuff (and I enjoy all of them). I even keep it in bulk. I find the best time to use this and other very perfumed ones like Seville is late night while reading in bed or quiet time. Its absolutely wonderful, and provides quite a sensual experience. I’ve heard people (moderatley) dislike it before, but this is the first time I ever heard someone absolutely rage against it (though I have heard a fair amount of rage directed against Seville and Bordeaux). I am actually a bit perplexed as to why you have had this reaction. You like Bordeaux and Macouba, and they have the same approximate amount of musk as Morlaix. You like Morocco, so its not the floral scent putting you off. In fact Morlaix is less floral than Morocco. All I can guess is that you have some physiological reaction to this one. The scent must have triggered some unpleasant memory. I’m sorry for you because there’s something a bit magical about this one to me; some crafty bit of aromatherapy in it. Well, you’d do to avoid Dr. J.R. Justice then, since its half Morlaix and half Bordeaux.

I am actually a bit perplexed as to why you have had this reaction. You like Bordeaux and Macouba, and they have the same approximate amount of musk as Morlaix. You like Morocco, so its not the floral scent putting you off. In fact Morlaix is less floral than Morocco. All I can guess is that you have some physiological reaction to this one. The scent must have triggered some unpleasant memory. I’m sorry for you because there’s something a bit magical about this one to me; some crafty bit of aromatherapy in it. Well, you’d do to avoid Dr. J.R. Justice then, since its half Morlaix and half Bordeaux.

Yes that does all seem very strange. All I can say is that I get by far way way the most musk from Morlaix than anything else and baby powder and nothing else because these just overwhelm me and I can still smell it hours later and it really does give me a nausea feeling. I can’t even stand it mixed with anything although someone suggested just thinning it out with some plain snuff which I might try? I hardly even notice any musk in the Bordeau or Morocco or Macouba and the Seville, although very musky to me, is bearable in a blend and possibly even quite nice and if I smell the open can of Morlaix there is something nice there also but not really nice. It’s only when I snuff it that I get something just horrible and have the feeling that I never want to have that in my nose ever and had to wonder how anyone could like that. Bureau is also a bit worringly close to Morlaix for me. I can sense that there is something nice in it but it also has a little of the effect that Morlaix has on me. I have a similar dislike of Royal George, Lavender, Wallflower and I have yet to open Jockey Club and I’m expecting another rant but I’ll keep it to myself. Update: Was just thinking about mixing the Seville with Best SP and Strasbourg which I did earlier today and seemed to produce an intersting, useable for further investigation, result and I got the idea to try the Morlaix but just with some Strasbourg and have just done so and have a nose full of it and I have to admit that that may have helped. I think I could actually use the Morlaix like this, maybe. It’s only an intial try and I’m just sensing the strong offputting musk again which will linger for hours but I do think this is an improvement of some sort. Back to the LF and FireDrac followed by a Coffee Cream. No musk definitely in those, yummy.

Well, I’ve heard plenty of rants against Royal George and Jockey Club so that wouldn’t surprise me. But those are really different sorts of snuffs. Yes they are perfumed but Morlaix is something more than perfume. Also Royal George is more of a candy snuff than a floral. Bureau is another mixture - of 6 F&T snuffs. The one to me that stands out of it the most is Morocco, but surely Morlaix is in there as well, and presumably that’s the component about it that bothers you.

Ok 5 mins since I tried the Strasbourg blend and all I’m left with is musk but it doesn’t seem as bad as before. None of the other F&T’s work with me like that leaving this musk residue apart from Seville so somehow from these two I am getting an overload of musk and soap of the Seville seems to be mroe bearable perhaps than the baby powder of the Morlaix. They really do seem to be an aquired taste that I certainly have not aquired and although I’d like to enjoy them I don’t in my heart feel that I want to aquire a liking for this, I would say very feminine fragrance unless I suppose a naked nymph was wearing it close by. What I mean is when I snuff these I feel like I am wearing a womens perfume and if a women smelled like this I 'd think she’d gone a bit crazy with the application. I did tip the Morlaix I left out to dry into my Rose SP blend so I suppose I am using a little of it now but luckily pretty much undetectable until later when I have the musk aftertaste.

lol, I’m sitting here with a tin of Morlaix and a tin of Seville on my desk right now. I don’t necessarily pinch from each every day, my work horse is Kendal Brown. But when you want something lighter and floral, they’re both winners. I don’t even think they’re particularly light in nicotine. As Nigel (@abraxas) used to say, most snuffs have the same amount of nicotine. The size of the pinch is much more important in terms of nicotine delivery. Just take a big pinch of Seville. I just did, and feel quite satisfied.

Now I have to order a Morlaix with my next package of snuff, just to quantify for myself!

OMG, I’ve converted everyone to Morlaix :((

OMG, I’ve converted everyone to Morlaix :((

LOL! Yeah you trendsetter; What started off as a moan has sent ripples around the world - International demand for Morlaix has increased exponentially, its trending on twitter, MrSnuff have sold out, WoS are planning to offer overtime to staff to meet demand, half empty tubs are selling on eBay for £20 I want to try some now too!

I’ve not got round to Morlaix yet, but I’m very happy with Princes Special, Bordeaux and especially Macouba. I’ll get round to trying it eventually, but I have lots of other stuff I already own to work through first

Never had it,no interest in trying it, Some snuff are not made with my nose for the intended destination. I own 9 F&T snuffs all to my liking the others I may never explore

love it. I think the talcum baby powder smell is amazing with the base tobacco. Love it.

I have well over 50 snuffs here. I realize my tastes will change but I decided that I will cut down to 15 or under snuffs. this will definitely include a few 6 photos and either Morlaix or Dr.J. and an F&T such as prince or santa domingo which I use as a base snuff for those i find too fine or dry. ie - 1 part prince, 3 parts Dhol. ganga (which i will finish off and only buy 6 photos) and 1 part O&G.

Just different tastes. No taste is bad as long as someone likes it, regardless of one’s own personal opinion. I don’t like sushi, but plenty of people do.

Very strangely I had a curious inclination to try the Morlaix before bed last night and I found it tolerable which is an enormous change from how I found it previously. I wasn’t overwhelmed by the musk nearly as badly as before? Perhaps that little I added to my Rose SP blend has aclimatised (de-traumatised) me to it. I then tried the Bureau and this surprised me also as I found my liking of this seemed to have grown very much, so much as to think this could actually be one of my most preferred F&T??? It’s all so confusing. I wonder is it that our bodies are configured to eat different foods and so to constantly change what we want to eat and smell being closely linked is doing something similar? Maybe with something new the body is on high alert but when it proves in no danger then it relaxes it’s defences?

I think Juxtaposer said it best once that (paraphrasing) that when the pleasure center is stimulated and the body begins to associate the formerly unpleasant smell with something good. May not be the case here. Tastes do change also. Never throw away a snuff.

Maybe it was partly a timing issue. The olfactory senses are associative and maybe it just linked to something that seemed misplaced. Some people couldn’t face knocking back a brandy at 9am, while I’m sure there are others who wouldn’t have a problem with it. Try it in different moods and at different times of day and see what happens. You may find it either suits different times better, or dissociates from whatever the problem was

I still wouldn’t say that I like it, although I do feel that I will continue to occasional test it out and see how it goes and I’m glad at least of that. It may be that over time I will be able to discern what it really is all about. I don’t think my nose is accustomed to it enough as yet but as my sense developes I may get there. I did wake this morning with a bit of a headache (which still hasn’t cleared several hours later ) and nicotine craving but I did go pretty heavy at snuffing yesterday so maybe thats what caused it although I haven’t had this happen before. Maybe all night with a nose full of musk could be responsible although I could no longer detect any snuff scent by morning? Maybe that’s what my body was warning me of? or maybe it’s just a change in the weather which went from great sun to storm rain overnight. To many variables but I can still rely on my toast blend anytime.

@Xander for me it’s this cherry/cinnamon scent I get in it, just doesn’t agree with me. I do like Seville though, in great moderation.

Finally tried Morlaix and I am puzzled… this is one of the few snuffs that WoS does not provide flavoring detail for - they refer to it as a secret recipe. Whatever it is, its hard to put a finger on… I don’t get old ladys house from it, but it is perfumed quite a bit. Very floral / cherry flavors, very complex. Its not a love it snuff, not a hate it snuff - Ill give it a few more tries and see if I can break it down.

I enjoy Morlaix, but only sparingly. I have most of the F&Ts in my collection and I enjoy all of them, but not to excess. Like many have noted, the strong floral scents can get overwhelming if you take too much. Also, I have found that if I use more than one or two F&Ts, they end up blending in my nose into a rather generalized floral scent, masking the individual taste of each type. That said, I enjoy Old Paris especially because it is so different than the other F and Ts. If you give Morlaix some time, and go back to it now and again, I bet you’ll find it is actually quite nice. Although very different from SP types, and coarse, unscented varieties like SGs Scotch Black, and Black Rappee, all of which I enjoy, the counterbalance of ultra floral snuffs like Morlaix, can be enjoyed. Variety is the snuff of life.

I have come to realise that I can have quite a kneejerk reaction to some snuffs for example the latest to get me fired up is SG Gin & Tonic but already I tried it again today and it does not deserve the vitriol I poured upon it and I’m going to delete that. This seems to be a failing of mine rather than the snuff. I should never judge a snuff on first impression but I do seem to be onto something. Morlaix I still feel a bit as though it’s like some-one rubbing polystyrene together to make it squeek but I can still use it and will, but I don’t at this stage see it as being a huge turnaround snuff for me. Same with some other snuffs, while on the other hand, No.22 Toast I also hated on first try. It was my first toast. Now it’s my main snuff? There is also the added confusion of senses changing and snuff itself changing over it’s life as it ages and dries or the amonia lifts etc. It’s all a moving target. Maybe my Morlaix is still just very fresh? I certainly found Morroco and Princess Special very useful the other day in making something very nice from that awful Tia Maria that I was about to chuck, also got a new big tin of HDT. Just had a brain flash. I do not and have never liked Raspberries or Mandarin Oranges which I feel are kind of musky, otherwise I pretty much love all foods and enjoy variety. I wonder is this thing with Morlaix something similar to that. Could there be something in comon with all those. Some chemical or something that I’m hardwired to avoid? I can eat Raspberries or Mandarin Oranges but I never normally choose to and for the same reason never intend to purchase Raspberry Snuff or Mandarin if there is one but I would give them a try. I don’t mind some Raspberry or Mandarin in a sauce or yogurt so maybe that’s why I don’t mind Bureau which I think has some Morlaix included. I think there is something to this theory.

@I_snuff_therefore__ Hate to say it but wow, I am confused by your statement. However, I have to totally agree that as we continue on this journey of snuff enlightenment, we are led along many paths. Some are straightforward and some are well, they are the other paths… I think that is what you are referring to. Good luck as you continue on the path to enlightenment!!!

@I_snuff_therefore__ perhaps at the end of the day florals aren’t your bag.

Revisited this snuff just recently as a result of this thread. Nope don’t like it. Too soapy.

Consider the time and place that these snuffs were developed. Bathing and the other niceties of personal hygiene were a rare luxury even for the upper crust of society. Some even considered too frequent bathing a health hazard. Add to this olfactory nightmare the amount of clothing layered on any person at any given time, and an equal lack of wardrobe hygiene. Let’s toss in the odors produced by the use of streets as latrines, garbage pick-up wasn’t on a regular schedule and four legged furry creatures had a free run. Toss in some flatulence and you too would want to live forever under Macy’s perfume counter or rub pig feces in your moustache to block out the offending odors. Not exactly pleasant. When F&T created these rather over-the-top scented snuffs, they may have been motivated by the need to minimize outside olfactory influences. Personally I can’t stand any of them with the notable exception of HDT. The nasal impact of the rest soon translate to an oral one and I’m reminded of my mis-spent youth having my mouth washed out with Granny’s soap after I asked her to “pass the fu$%!ng butter”. I guess I forgot to say “Please”.

I don’t care if your mind changes back & forth a dozen times, @I_snuff_therefore__ You are okay with me… For my part, I just don’t much care for any of the F&Ts except for HDT, which I think is fantastic. I don’t hate or despise any of the F&Ts, nor do I have any sort of knee jerk against them, I just don’t much care about them. They do nothing for me. And I don’t much care for floral snuffs in any case. Taste is an extraordinary thing, no?

Well, I’ve just got hold of a tin of Old Paris, Dr Justice and Seville, and I’ve got six more coming my way in my next order from MrSnuff. I do think they are very heavily scented and there’s no way that I’d use any of them as an all day snuff. But I like all of them in moderation, particularly late at night, when I’m reading. I find using Viking Dark as a chaser works well with all of them, the yang that goes with the F&T yin. HDT is the exceptional stand out of the range. Anyone who appreciates good, strong, honest, plain tobacco and like fine toasts should enjoy this one. It’s the only one I’ll order regularly. The others are just something I’m happy to try once to expand my knowledge of snuff.

I don’t care if your mind changes back & forth a dozen times, @I_snuff_therefore__ You are okay with me…

LoL! Was it only a dozen? It might have created in me another few personalities. Lets see there was Mr Angry, Mr Not Sure, Mr No Idea…

I don’t care if your mind changes back & forth a dozen times, @I_snuff_therefore__ You are okay with me…

LoL! Was it only a dozen? It might have created in me another few personalities. Lets see there was Mr Angry, Mr Not Sure, Mr No Idea…

Mr Multiple posts. That was the computers fault. Honest

I have been on the F&T Morlaix lately inspired by the Morocco. I am now turning to their Kendal Brown with more appreciation. The Seville is next on the list and then I will spend a few days with the other F&T’s that I have. The scent associations with toiletries has been easy to overcome with new associations and has been worth the effort. These are brilliant scents! Implied by the very fact of their popularity in these said products. If you have been impressed by indian florals you should certainly be able to enjoy these delights. What also makes these F&T snuffs attractive is their high and dry nature. The specific tobaccos employed are also worth familiarity.

They certainly aren’t SWS that’s for sure. This new kid on the block gets my vote and I can’t seem to put the SWS away to get to finish my F&T’s, especially now that I got the amonia out of my Creme De Figue and it’s back to being ultra lovely. SWS is just amazingly good from such a new producer. SWS is actually the best snuff on the planet at present however Johnny managed that. A big statement but the more I use them and compare to others it’s the only conclusion I can come to. I think it’s because they just seem so organic or something. Natural tobacco and natural unadulterated flavours. I couldn’t say this about F&T or many other brands.

Got to love you F&T’s I reckon… I guess with a couple of exceptions they aren’t all dayer, but they are lush to dip into now and then. Someone once gave the tip of ordering a F&T every other snuff order; some are occasionals like Marlaix. However, Old Paris, Morcuba, HDT and a few others are good for several pinches. I like @I_snufftherefore___ comments obout these and SWS. I know that Johnny has said before that F&T were a big inspiriation for his snuff range. Top three manufactuers I’d have to go SWS, F&T & Abraxas.

They certainly aren’t SWS that’s for sure. This new kid on the block gets my vote and I can’t seem to put the SWS away to get to finish my F&T’s, especially now that I got the amonia out of my Creme De Figue and it’s back to being ultra lovely. SWS is just amazingly good from such a new producer. SWS is actually the best snuff on the planet at present however Johnny managed that. A big statement but the more I use them and compare to others it’s the only conclusion I can come to. I think it’s because they just seem so organic or something. Natural tobacco and natural unadulterated flavours. I couldn’t say this about F&T or many other brands.

I heartily second that accolade to a true genius snuff blender; Sir Johnny. I feel compelled to add Nigel/Abraxas to that very short list of two. Nigel’s Cafe 11 is a phenomenon, the Dark Fired Cerise is a wonder, Connaisseur Cerise is amazing; his ventures into Capsaicin inspired snuffs are top quality; they just kicked my ass.

I love morlaix though I can defiantly see why some people would hate it, the smell is unique to say the least. Though I do think some of their line are a little disserpointing, Macouba comes straight to mind.

Well, I bought some directly because of this thread, and I love it - nearly all gone an I’ll definitely be ordering some more.

They say no publicity is bad publicity. I’m happy for anyone that likes any snuff and happy if they have discovered it because of my ranting but I think as time goes on I’m more inclined to agree (until I change my mind of course:) with @fredhanna and not favour floral or musk types. Tobacco flavours or tobacco with fruit or berries or coffee or alcohol.

I have tried Morlaix, Princess and Old Paris. I sampled them several times over 3-4 years and I can`t stand any of them. And I really tried!! As ar as I remember all 3 smelled like the bathroom of old people, really old people. Like old fashion hand soap and perfume, overwhelming to say the least. No thanks!!!

I have a couple of pinches of Morlaix in my nose from a brand new tin received this morning. Not something I’d use as an all day snuff, but a very nice snuff all the same. Yes, I get some baby powder type 19790’s bathroom scent associations … but that’s because that’s the nearest thing my brain associates this ye olde traditional scent with. For me personally, I can rise above this (dissociate) and accept and enjoy the scent. Bordeaux I find pleasant though a little overwhelming, and am hoping this fades or calms down a litttle over time. I am however a big fan of Old Paris, Princes Special and Santa Domingo. Seville is something that I didn’t take to immediately, but I will keep in the drawer and try again another time. I also received today (and have yet to try) Morocco, Dr JR Justice, Macouba and Princes. BY FAR the worst I have tried is HDT. That stuff is utterly foul, and I traded mine away. The sickly burnt rubber and sweaty sock scent is not repulsive through association, it’s just bloody awful. The chokeathon from the ultrafine dry grind was just further incentive to get rid and never want to try it again

Got to wonder about this association stuff. Seems to me rather that we have completely different nose sensors and therefore a variety of snuff is needed to cover all preferences. I just tried St’Casura the other day with it’s small element of Rose and I prefer the tobacco in that for a start and also there seems not to be any musk nor overwhelming floralness. Maybe I should start small with that and see how I go, but I also got some Paul Gottard Latakia and that has already got more of my attention. Just strong savoury tobacco already mentally on the must re-order list.

Some of the most (at first) repulsive snuffs have turned out to be some of my favorites. It is almost as if there is no such thing as a bad snuff.

Good point. Turnarounds do happen but I mostly find that if I like a snuff in the beginning then it usually stays that way or even becomes more liked and no effort is needed to convince myself but certainly worth trying new things and giving them some time and chance but if that doesn’t work then it’s time to move on down more enjoyable avenues. It’s probably a bit like life.

Yes, learning how to enjoy what you do rather than do what you enjoy does take some effort. Also those that say, “no publicity is bad publicity” may have heard that, “any publicity is good publicity”. It is interesting to see other conclusions that they have come to as well.

Agreed. It certainly couldn’t be said in the snuff world that we don’t have great choice available and largely thanks to a certain @MrSnuff

I’ve learned a lot from this rather lengthy discussion, so I wanted to thank all who helped me along my journey! In my case, oddly, I dislike HDT - but love #22 and Natural Toast. I tried to like Old Paris, but found it a bit rough. Then I mixed it 50/50 with F&T Macouba and found a lovely deep berry scent. Great as a nightcap. Still, when I want a bit more nicotine I’ve been using this blend immediately after a big pinch of Viking Dark. Very nice!

I just had to try that and I think you have something there. Deep Berry is a good description. Very nice. I tried also adding a little Morocco and that’s nice too. Hard to decide which is best but certainly Macouba and Old Paris seem very good for an occasional change of direction. I think I will continue with that one. Thanks. In exchange I strongly recomend everyone try SWS Havana Toast with some Paul Gotard Lotakia about 2:1. This has really taken me by storm. Its the most smoking like snuff I’ve yet come across by far and is my new bestest buddy. I think the F&T’s in the main are more for when you don’t want a smoking similarity experience.

It sounds like you are experienced in smoking simulation snuffs.

Well experimenting at least. Before now I’ve just been trying various snuffs but all of them were missing some sort of tobacco flavour satisfaction that I used to get from smoking and I’m talking flavour here not strength. Toasts came the nearest I think. I love other snuffs like Creme De Figue etc but I had nothing really as a standard everyday great tobacco snuff which gave me the flavours from my original smoking days. I had vaping were I could blend juices to create my preferred smoking flavours but nothing with snuff. Then this week finally at long last SWS Havana Toast was born and by coincedence I had ordered some Paul Gotard Latakia to try. Coincedence because the Latakia seems to perfectly provide the missing element of the Havana that so reminds me of the little dark fermented Dutch cigars I used to love to smoke. I had even thought of buying some of the cigars and grinding them to a powder to snuff but absolutley no need now infact the Havana and Latakia are even better. I’m really so pleased with this. If anyone is looking for a great tobacco snuff then I can’t recommend enough that they should try this or at least the Havana Toast. The Latakia on is own is a bit heavier and harsher than the Havana so I wouldn’t use it alone unless in emergency but with the Havana as the base it’s just so good. I let a roleup smoker smell it yesterday and there was an immediate oh I like that expression (eyebrows raise, eyes light up) but he was one of those people terrified of trying snuff you know the ones who go into fight or flight the minute you offer them some. I think he took a risk even to smell it. So it may suit even people who want some kind of hand rolled or normal cigarette reminder. I’d love more snuffs like this. There seem to be so few at present which I find rather strange. The aim of F&T and many others seems to be to mask (or musk) any tobacco goodness. If you try the Havana or blend I suggest you will see what I mean. Compared with that Morlaix makes me feel ill, nausious. I tried it again this morning.

I just got six different F&T - Morocco, San Domingo,Special Princess, Pachouli, Macouba and … another one. Been trying them at random over the past 24 hours. I just don’t get this “fusty grandmother’s bathroom” vibe. Flagrant and ornate were the words that sprung to mind. No way would any of them make my “all day snuff” list, but for an intense burst of scent, they’re great!

Yes, sort of like spraying a can of airfreshner up your nose. I confess I did try my now Morlaix blended with WoS Kendal Brown and I actually found it fairly nice??? but it was just the one pinch which was enough for a good hour of perfume. Maybe have another one sometime soon again but I’m not in a rush. Instead today my Old Paris/Macouba/Morroco blend gave me the airfreshner effect. I though of airfreshner because I have a can of Mulled Wine and Cinnamon Apple airfreshner and it reminded me of that.

Well, a tin will last a long time, then!

You say, “I just don’t get this “fusty grandmother’s bathroom” vibe. Flagrant and ornate…” and another says air freshener or rather “airfreshner”. It is obvious that you are not beyond these sent associations and will not be able to appreciate them for what they truly are. This is true for all snuffs.

Whatever will be. If I happen to have an “air feshener”, (I bet you did that thing with your fingers like little rabbit ears) that smells like a snuff, how then to not associate the two and why would you want to trick your senses into a false reading? This is obvioulsy not “obvious”, to me.

Yes, and you have so much to look forward too because you are now on the right path.

Yes, and you have so much to look forward too because you are now on the right path.

I wish you likewise.

My point is that some scents are so dynamic that they are very popular and used for all kind of things. This changes the perception of your experience when these are found in a snuff. A snuff scented air freshener is a good way of looking at it.

The F&T line is brilliant amd has its place in our snuff world. The combination of scents comes together to form a bigger picture. Try them out of doors.

My taste at present does not seem to be for F&T’s. I think they could well languish long in my drawer except the HDT which I use fairly regularly in my toast blend and the occasional bullet of some of the others. Trying some Seville today mixed with Best SP and Strasbourg which produces a citrus soapy musk and it’s not to bad but my brain is really saying no, this is not what you want, there are more preferable enjoyable things such as the SWS and Abraxas and I’m waiting on Taxi Blue etc and even the Toques and WOS are better for regular use. These F&T’s have a place in snuffdom somewhere, probably in medieval/victorian times. Don’t let those cute tins fool you! There is no doubt about the quality but it looks like they will be at the back of the drawer except I will be ordering a large HDT soon as this is the only one that I have almost emptied. Maybe they need a modernising revamp, add more nic, make them more all day useable and then they could possibly be quite fantastic?

I find this to be quite rude and inappropriate. Just because you dislike Morlaix doesn’t mean that Fribourg & Treyer, who started producing snuff in 1720, are bad snuffs. It isn’t your place to “warn” people not to be fooled by “those cute tins,” suggesting that we who enjoy F&T snuffs are merely buying it for the tins. Fribourg & Treyer snuffs are great. Some are better than others. I urge people to try them. And, if YOU dislike Morlaix, don’t buy it in bulk. Enough said.

Good point. Turnarounds do happen but I mostly find that if I like a snuff in the beginning then it usually stays that way or even becomes more liked and no effort is needed to convince myself but certainly worth trying new things and giving them some time and chance but if that doesn’t work then it’s time to move on down more enjoyable avenues. It’s probably a bit like life.

You might also want to steer clear of things like single malt scotch.

@StPedro_de_Arbues‌ Wow… I don’t see anything that he said as rude… However, judging by your response, instinct would tell me to avoid even a minute around you for fear that I’ll be chastised for voicing an opinion. Never did he call F&T snuffs bad in that text, nor did he do anything but joke about the tins. Perhaps a response detailing why you disagree with his preference, instead of distorting what was said and ending it as you did, would be more appropriate? It’s not like he shoved his opinion down your throat.

He is bloviating and making numerous negative blanket statements about a brand many of us enjoy. If he doesn’t enjoy them, then he shouldn’t order more. No need for him to wax poetic about how bad he thinks the F&T range is in general.

It appears this forum has no first amendment. Freedom of speech, once lost, leads to tyranny. That includes “bloviating”, and perhaps some of us should take a good, hard look at our own comments before resorting to accusations of “bloviating”. “If he doesn’t enjoy them, then he shouldn’t order more. No need for him to wax poetic about how bad he thinks the F&T range is in general.” If you don’t like his opinion, then you shouldn’t come on this forum. No need to resort to distortion and name calling because you don’t happen to agree with his opinion about a brand many of us loath. It’s arrogant snuff snobs such as those who attack @I_snuff_therefore___‌ that give this hobby of ours a bad reputation of being inhabited by elitist, “holier-than-thou” individuals with delusions of grandeur. “These F&T’s have a place in snuffdom somewhere, probably in medieval/victorian times.” If i’m not mistaken this quote indicates very clearly that he doesn’t consider F&T Snuffs “bad” and they have a place in snuffdom. Sounds like a reasonable position and a nice statement of personal opinion. If you don’t like what’s playing on your television, turn the channel. Don’t saddle up your high horse and attempt to intimidate others into silence, because they enjoy or don’t enjoy, available entertainment. A lively, civilized debate without participants resorting to demeaning behavior is one of my favorite forms of entertainment. It does require a certain level of maturity, a strong sense of self, and courage in your beliefs and positions. It is not for those with thin skin seeking sycophants or a mutual admiration society. I happen to like hearing opposing viewpoints. When my snuffs or my cooking are criticized I don’t curl up in the corner sucking my thumb and crying for my mommy to protect me from those mean people. I take it for what it’s worth. I don’t take it personally, I use the commentary to grow and improve and I sincerely appreciate those opinions, even if I don’t agree with them. Hell, Premiere and Fleur de Cafe have only been out a few weeks and there’s already a lively conversation here about the grind and moisture. When I heard them I didn’t pull out my hankie…actually I did pull out my hankie. To blow out a gram or so of Fleur de Cafe, but I digress. I meant to say I didn’t have a long self indulgent crying session more appropriate for a teenage girl. I did have a nice conversation with people I consider very good friends, who just so happen to have an opinion contrary to mine about snuff. Snuff for God’s sake. Snuff! This isn’t impending thermonuclear holocaust we’re talking about. It’s ground up tobacco. There are some here who wax poetic about snuffs that remind them of cat piss. If they want to sniff used kitty litter I say go for it and have a great time. You’ll excuse me if I don’t join you in a pinch. When I was in the wine business, we referred to wine snobs as “cork sniffers”. It wasn’t a term of endearment. Perhaps we have a few “tin sniffers” lurking about here with their censorship switch set to DefCon Four in the event someone doesn’t apply nose to ass in an acceptable manner. Those that know me here also know I can get long winded. When I encounter bullies I get pissed off. Then I’ll show you what long winded really is.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I do believe as well that this is a _ Forum _, is that not a place designated for discussion? I believe opinions are a part of just that. I see no sense in taking a negative review of your desired snuff personally… Worse though, is to devalue a fellow human being’s thoughts on something to defend it. It’s your favored brand… than so be it, buy in bulk, buy some more. If you want to “defend the cause, and stand up for the best assortment of snuffs ever made!” then start another discussion or at least state in your comment, on why you find F&T to be as great of snuffs as you think they are. Personally, while they’ve done a fine job with Santo Domingo and HDT, I wouldn’t lose any sleep over the others. But should I and anybody else of the same taste be bullied for talking of it? Of course not. This IS the place to wax poetic of what you do or do not like, and hopefully to treat each other with respect in the process. But if you’re of the opinion we shouldn’t talk about snuff on a snuff forum if it involves bashing a pinch somebody might enjoy, then maybe your staying away from the forum for a couple years was the right idea, as I’m sure he won’t be the only one to speak such of the almighty Fribourg and Treyer. I mean seriously. You had the choice to stay in or out of the discussion, just as he has the choice of “what to buy in bulk.” Difference is, he invited discussion on the topic, and you’re just playing bully through a keyboard for no other reason than, to put it simply, you saw something you didn’t like on the internet… Sad, if you ask me.

Don’t go away mad. Just go away

I sincerely appreciate all your thoughts and criticisms. He is atrociously pretentious. Now, please continue to articulate in length on how horrible I am. It means a lot to me.

Oh, and I am so glad that you two who have joined this forum, only this year, are able to share your insightful thoughts with us. It is always interesting when newbies share their opinions.

It appears this forum has no first amendment. Freedom of speech, once lost, leads to tyranny. That includes “bloviating”, and perhaps some of us should take a good, hard look at our own comments before resorting to accusations of “bloviating”. “If he doesn’t enjoy them, then he shouldn’t order more. No need for him to wax poetic about how bad he thinks the F&T range is in general.” If you don’t like his opinion, then you shouldn’t come on this forum. No need to resort to distortion and name calling because you don’t happen to agree with his opinion about a brand many of us loath. It’s arrogant snuff snobs such as those who attack @I_snuff_therefore___‌ that give this hobby of ours a bad reputation of being inhabited by elitist, “holier-than-thou” individuals with delusions of grandeur. “These F&T’s have a place in snuffdom somewhere, probably in medieval/victorian times.” If i’m not mistaken this quote indicates very clearly that he doesn’t consider F&T Snuffs “bad” and they have a place in snuffdom. Sounds like a reasonable position and a nice statement of personal opinion. If you don’t like what’s playing on your television, turn the channel. Don’t saddle up your high horse and attempt to intimidate others into silence, because they enjoy or don’t enjoy, available entertainment. A lively, civilized debate without participants resorting to demeaning behavior is one of my favorite forms of entertainment. It does require a certain level of maturity, a strong sense of self, and courage in your beliefs and positions. It is not for those with thin skin seeking sycophants or a mutual admiration society. I happen to like hearing opposing viewpoints. When my snuffs or my cooking are criticized I don’t curl up in the corner sucking my thumb and crying for my mommy to protect me from those mean people. I take it for what it’s worth. I don’t take it personally, I use the commentary to grow and improve and I sincerely appreciate those opinions, even if I don’t agree with them. Hell, Premiere and Fleur de Cafe have only been out a few weeks and there’s already a lively conversation here about the grind and moisture. When I heard them I didn’t pull out my hankie…actually I did pull out my hankie. To blow out a gram or so of Fleur de Cafe, but I digress. I meant to say I didn’t have a long self indulgent crying session more appropriate for a teenage girl. I did have a nice conversation with people I consider very good friends, who just so happen to have an opinion contrary to mine about snuff. Snuff for God’s sake. Snuff! This isn’t impending thermonuclear holocaust we’re talking about. It’s ground up tobacco. There are some here who wax poetic about snuffs that remind them of cat piss. If they want to sniff used kitty litter I say go for it and have a great time. You’ll excuse me if I don’t join you in a pinch. When I was in the wine business, we referred to wine snobs as “cork sniffers”. It wasn’t a term of endearment. Perhaps we have a few “tin sniffers” lurking about here with their censorship switch set to DefCon Four in the event someone doesn’t apply nose to ass in an acceptable manner. Those that know me here also know I can get long winded. When I encounter bullies I get pissed off. Then I’ll show you what long winded really is.

I believe you meant loathe. “Loath” means reluctant. Just thought I would point that out.

@StPedro_de_Arbues‌ Don’t flatter yourself. You are not horrible. You are pathetic. Joining a forum has little to do with experience, or the ability to earn the respect of others. Knowledge combined with experience, seasoned with intelligence and honed by battle are far more valuable assets than having the time to join a forum, go on hiatus and come back some years later with mouth and guns blazing. “Oh, and I am so glad that you two who have joined this forum, only this year, are able to share your insightful thoughts with us. It is always interesting when newbies share their opinions.” Spoken like a true malignant narcissist and grade school bully. I’m sure the other little boys are suitably impressed. Evidently from your lofty perch the opinions of others, especially newbies, have no value. Only your opinion has value, and those that have the temerity to disagree are treated like dirt. You, sir, know absolutely nothing about me, yet you claim to know my entire history merely by my tenure on this forum. I’m impressed, especially considering you were on and gone in October 2011 and contributed nothing during your brief but meaningful tour of this forum. It’s been mostly friendly, civil and open since I joined, until now. Please don’t misunderstand Sr. Arbués, we have no desire to be possessed by your obvious disdain for we peasants. Your gifts are far more suited to inquisition than civil discourse. You leave us no choice other than to live out our pitiful lives firm in the knowledge that the exalted one, your royal highness Saint Peter de Arbués has allowed us to live in his world. For that we are forever in your debt, and since your happiness is our one and only goal in life, we will stop sharing our thoughts lest we incur the wrath of The Almighty Inquisitor Saint Peter de Arbués C.R.S.A. You need only ask and I will gladly resign from this forum so you can avoid any conflicting opinions that I might attempt to share. Morte dell’inquisitore

Gentleman, let us behave ourselves in the civilized, and eccentric, way in which we are accustomed on this forum. Patience! All newbies must be embraced.I can assure you that I myself, when a newbie, made pretentious accusations against certain snuffs. Those words written long ago, I also ate. We live and learn.

sant pet i dont no wut i wud du if yu wasnt her tu crekt mi speling it must be nic being such jeneeass and such a nic man i’ sur yu hav many frenz that wud gree with me i dint go to tiping skool lik yu so i gess i’ll jes hav to lern me tu tip sum da

More bloviating. Thanks for sharing.

@saucy_jack has injected some much needed common sense here. Please follow his advice - it would be a great shame if this thread had to be closed.

Well to get back on topic about F&T snuffs I believe I’ve discovered their most closely guarded secret, whenever they want to develop a new snuff they go and raid their grandma’s perfume drawer.

Well to get back on topic about F&T snuffs I believe I’ve discovered their most closely guarded secret, whenever they want to develop a new snuff they go and raid their grandma’s perfume drawer.

Alas, Fribourg & Treyer are no longer producing new snuffs. The company was bought by Wilsons of Sharrow.

Yes, we’ve known that for years now, old boy.

Well it appears that n9inchnails was unaware. Otherwise he wouldn’t have made such an accurate presumption on how F&T went about creating their masterpieces! Fribourg & Treyer, 100% hands down the best snuff there is bar NONE!

I’m not sure if it’s just trolling or if he’s really that full of himself, either way a block function would be very helpful right now.

Well he seems to have calmed down quite a bit, R25. I think if we stop replying to this thread he might go away. In truth, we should keep our comments related to snuff and not to other users. Not that we do not encourage your active participation on the fourm, R25, but your comment above served no constructive purpose and will do nothing to bring peace to this thread. Besides, we can’t expect everyone to hold our level of sophistication and appreciation for Fribourg & Treyer. 3rd person omniscient, BEST rhetorical device ever, hands down!!!

My comment might not add anything but my god no one else disagreeing in this thread is nothing compared to your attitude.

Speaking of thyself in the third person, Mr Airbus? Pff! Anywho, the old advice from the Usenet days is still valid which says “do not feed the troll.” And that’s all I will say to that.

@Kiwi78‌ That’s Saint Airbus to you, peasant. Good one. :)) :))

I have to say that I am astonished at the idea of anyone NOT liking Morlaix! Along with French Carotte, Morlaix is one of my favorite snuffs.

I like Morlaix as an evening snuff. Morlaix is like Laphroaig, it grows on you, and after a while you can really appreciate it.

I appreciated morlaix immediately and then got bored of it quite quickly. I didn’t find much complexity, just a lot of scents which were pleasant and to which my nose was unaccustomed. When it became accustomed, my nose asked me to stop snuffing it and find something with a bit of nuance. Opinions are like arseholes, right? Everybody’s got one - an opinion and an arseholes. (edited for clarity.)

Guys, keep it civil, Morlaix is like marmite, some love it, some hate it. As @Justin said, if this does escalate anymore the thread will be closed.

I am sampling my Morlaix as you read this, and since I am judge, jury, and executioner it is I and I alone who will have ultimate judgement on if Morlaix stays or goes. Any last words before I drop the hammer, gentlemen? =))

Heres a funny thing and demonstrates how our nasal tastes develop. I have been snuffing 5 years and since I started I never cared for Santo Domingo. I just found it bland. I haven’t had Santo Domingo in about 2 years and noticed last week I had a tin of it I hadnt opened so I thought why not, give it another go, and guess what. I love it now. I’ve been snuffing it every day for the last week and I’ve nearly finished the 50g tin. Now I’m definitely buying it in bulk. The same has happened to a lesser extent with Patchouli. I thought it was just OK at first and now I’m really enjoying it. This is why I never throw snuffs out or trade them.

Oh, and I am so glad that you two who have joined this forum, only this year, are able to share your insightful thoughts with us. It is always interesting when newbies share their opinions.

I have no desire to engage in an argument, but I would like to say this. Newbies have just as much a right to opinions as anyone else. In fact, I enjoy hearing newbie opinions. It reminds me of when I started snuffing, listening to how their first impressions are similar (or not) to my own newbie days. Also newbies exude that special excitement you can only feel when you discover how wonderful snuffing is. It elevates my own excitement when I hear newbies wax lyrical about this great hobby. I especially don’t mind negative reactions to snuff. I quite literally despised Seville when I was a newbie. Now it is one of my favourite snuffs. If you’re experienced you should know tastes change and not be offended if someone (esp newbies) don’t like a snuff you may happen to love. I also enjoy watching newbies develop on their path to more experience and seeing their tastes change and mature. We are all on a snuff journey and I enjoy listening to newbie’s first impressions as much as I value paying close attention to snuffers far more experienced and knowledgeable than myself.

Morlaix is one F&T snuff that I have yet to try. Of the eight or so I have tried Santo Domingo and Princes are what I really liked and even so I would not want to snuff them all day. HDT is an excellent snuff but I prefer a few other toasts a good bit more. I think we are in our own “Golden Age” of snuff right now. The choices range from 19th century classics to ultramodern flavors and styles. Plus now with the internet we can reach regional varieties from all over the world. There is no “best” or “worst” snuffs, just different kinds. With that I think I will figure out what other F&T snuffs I don’t have to put in my cart when it comes time for my next order. So @saucy_jack‌ what is your verdict on this oh so controversial snuff?

HDT is an excellent snuff but I prefer a few other toasts a good bit more.

@willc, which other toasts do you prefer? I only discovered HDT over the past couple of months, but I use it now more than any other snuff. I’ve yet to try Irish DT No. 22, although it’s sitting in my shopping cart at Mr. Snuff. I’ve also tried the SWS toasts, and a few Indian “quasi-toasts”, like Dholakia Sparrow. But that’s it. So, I’m always curious to hear from people who regard HDT highly what their other favourite toasts are. Your recommendations would be welcome!

@willc‌ Oh, you know, Morlaix is a wonderful snuff, and like most F&T snuff, it’s not an all day snuff, but a snuff you have when you want to feel the luxury of bygone eras. I do highly recommend it, even though my tin is 5 years old it still shines, I recall it was on my very first order…and oddly Ive yet to try the much vaunted Santo Domingo.

It’s arrogant snuff snobs such as those who attack @I_snuff_therefore___‌ that give this hobby of ours a bad reputation of being inhabited by elitist, “holier-than-thou” individuals

Well,he was a saint, after all.

Yes. Yes he was. The patron saint of large airliners manufactured in France by Fabrice Brégier . St. Pedro de Airbus-A380. A legend in his own mind.

May His soul rest eternally in snuff hell.

OK, folks, enough of the ad hominem!

We shall not cease our ad hominem attacks on the dearly departed St Airhead until Saint Roderick of Toque produces Liver and Onions, smothered in Deviled Kidneys with a side of Gentleman’s Relish. Snuff!

While the scenting of F&T snuff remains extraordinary, the tobacco used is now inferior which play a large roll in its overall quality.

Moderators…I know the death of our saint is a touchy subject… but, THANK YOU! I do however hope I eat my words one day and develop an itch for F&T outside of SD and HDT. Discount or not, i hate not using something I paid for.

@JakartaBoy‌ Toque Natural Toast right now is what I use the most. SG Irish D Light is a close second though, the flavor on this is heavier and more smokey than the Toque or HDT. Lundy Foot is great also and to me it is similar to SG IDL. WoS 22 is good too. The thing is all these snuffs are excellent so HDT kind of takes a back seat for me just because I like the others just a bit more.

I managed to practise some restraint and stay out of this St Pedro business. I didn’t think the guy was to rational so no point in trying to reason -plus I was pretty ill - but I have to say it was nice of the folks on the forum to stand up to him and in some way it even seemed to be in my defence but really of course in defence of a good forum. So I have to simply say thanks and well done to all those who did that.

I didn’t understand anything about the attitude he displayed: he seemed somewhat knowledgeable and had some interest opinions but he insisted in ruining everything with that troll attitude, quite like the people that in some Spanish forums I’ve seen called “tiburones” (sharks), users that display an attitude hostile to everyone who is not close to what they consider the “establishment” or the high hierarchy of the forum, and that call for draconian administration, Prussian army-like discipline and for an extended period of “newbie” harassment (when not outright banning)… a dangerous attitude that greatly restricts freedom of speech and overall fun. On the other hand, I believe that this whole thing can serve us to realize how many of our attitudes (I admit freely that some of my comments and attitudes both on the Internet and the real life are somewhat “sharky”) can become horrid if we take it to the extreme with crusader-like attitude instead of being reasonable. His attitude was not that different from many we have displayed and will surely continue to display, but it was indeed more extreme. Back on topic: I’ve not tried Morlaix yet, but if its similar to other perfumed F&T I will surely find it at least interesting. The one I find incomprehensibly over-hyped is Old Paris. Quite puzzling smell, but not one I’d like to feel every day for sure (the same happens to me with Wilsons Brandy… perhaps alcoholic snuffs are not for me).

Well it appears that n9inchnails was unaware. Otherwise he wouldn’t have made such an accurate presumption on how F&T went about creating their masterpieces! Fribourg & Treyer, 100% hands down the best snuff there is bar NONE!

Well at least he agreed that my presumption was accurate