I love mentholated snuffs (newbie) and am about to make my first bulk order of “one of the two mentholated big daddies”. Which one of the two is better and why? Let the competition begin!! Queu the Rocky “Eye of the Tiger” music… Round One Begins *ding ding*

I think that if you are looking for a straight up menthol blast/medicated snuff then Hedges would suffice, but if you want some flavor with your menthol then O&G is probably the better choice. If you want to use as a mixer, then perhaps Hedges would be better because it wont add much flavor to a mix, only strong menthol. Personally I’d go with O&G but honestly I’m not a huge menthol fan. I use it more as a medicine and a mixer.

O&G would be your best bet.

i dont think you can get hedges in bulk only buy 12 25 gram tins

I’m a Hedges guy. It is incredibly moreish after the first pinch.

O&G, if only because you can get a 200g tub of it. It’s good from a tin, but it’s heaven from a tub. Fluffy, rich and cool like a splash of water in the face. How do people wake up without this stuff? Hedges isn’t bad. Don’t get me wrong. But I think of it more as snuff to use when I need to reduce inflammation in my nose – like a medicine with benefits.

I’ve never had Hedges but I do love O&G. WOS SM 500 is also great.

@puffpuff Good God! At my current rate of snuffing 200g tub would last the equivalent of my grandchildrens life-times! LOL @everyone Thanks for the suggestions. I am looking for the “best” mentholated snuff - yes I know, try them both decide for yourselves, but I want to throw a vine out there and see what the snuffhouse recommends. So far looks like O&G is winning the battle with more positive votes than Hedges. Anyone else got some punches they would like to throw for these two Mentholated Monsters of Snuff?

Its comparing apples to oranges really. Hedges is a strong menthol (a pain inducing monster really), O&G is a moderate menthol though exceedingly popular. Pretty much all of McChrystal’s other menthol snuffs are more mentholated than O&G (Jip!, Sturco, English Menthol, Highland Ice). They all have unique flavors though. All of the WoS SM series also have more menthol than O&G. So the question, “which is better?” is entirely subjective. If the question is “which has the most menthol?” then the answer is Hedges without a doubt.

@Xander Good points. If you have tried both which do you like better and why? To clarify I’m not really looking for the MOST menthol but the BEST OVERALL and why.

I’m not in love with either. Hedges has way too much menthol to be pleasant, and snuff should be something that is pleasant. O&G is overpriced and overrated. Its ok, but not a favorite. There. You have my opinion. Edit to add: Best traditional English medicated types overall for me is McC Highland Ice, GH CM, and McC Jip, and maybe WoS SM 500. They’ve all got more menthol than O&G, but they have a lot more fullness to them, and don’t hurt my brain as much as Hedges.

Interesting… never heard of the other menthols. Just thought these two were the best from what I’ve heard. Like I said I’m a very very new snuffer so not familiar with many brands yet. Thanks for your opinions. I’ll keep those others on a short list to try later.

Add Poschls President to your short list. Its an excellent menthol that I find similar to O&G with perhaps a bit more flavor and being a Poschl its easier to snuff in large quantities. Plus it mixes nicely. i’ve been snuffing a lot of “white president” (courtesy of n9inchnails mixing suggestion) which is about 75% dholakia white and 25% poschl president, its good stuff!

@snuffnpuff there are A LOT of mentholated snuffs out there, take a good look around and keep in mind that the world of snuff isnt that small after all

Okay okay… back on topic… which of these supposed best ones is indeed the best overall and why?

again, you cannot setup the “best” imho. it depends on personal taste, that is all. you have to try diffrent ones to explore the difference and to see what you like and (unfortunatly) what you dont like. on the sideline, you say yourself that you are new to snuff, in this situation, i would refrain from buying bulk at this moment. there is so much to sample out there, why limit yourself and even more in the beginning of your quest for “the best snuff of all”. 2 cents again.

hedges is for the men, o&g for the wimps.

@bish777 LOL

every menthol snuff is so noticably diffrent then the next. Often in ways that while blatant up your nose, are not always easy to convey with words. Some are grassier some sweeter and sappyier. point being buy some figure it out. Not saying that to be a dick just saying it because it’s the only way you’ll get what you want. Unless of course you’re taking a poll more then asking for advice.

@bob saying things like “not saying that to be a dick…” and “not to be rude…” and “don’t mean to offend…” are inconsequential because 99.9% of the time… you are. Please don’t comment just to flex your pixelated snuff filled muscles and try to give a constructive and productive response. I guarantee if I have this question there are at least 10 others out there that do as well. Help make snuffhouse.org an inviting and welcoming experience for new snuffers (such as myself) not a confrontational and alienating one.

@snuffnpuff: Bob is trying to help you, and is actually being nice. Read his response again. He’s also right. No one knows what snuff you will like but you. Opinions vary widely on “what snuff is best”. The only way to find out what you like is to try them. Just about every snuff available has been reviewed at least once at snuffreviews.com. You may want to narrow your choices for your next order by reading a few reviews first. You will also find most snuffs get both good and bad reviews.

I agree with jbruckus Poschls President is a must

I haven’t had hedges yet but enjoy o&g every now and again. Best comparison I can make for o&g is vicks vap o rub. Very similar

Just to flex my pixelated snuff filled muscles and try to give a constructive and productive response, bob is spot on my friend. Relax, It is hard sometimes for some of the more “seasoned” snuffers here to show the proper amount of deference to the “neophyte” questions that we endure as we watch the somewhat painful journey from excited “newbie” to experienced snuffer. You embark upon a path of mystery and enlightenment, sometimes the stumbles in the dark are shared failings that must be endured together. I have been here a little more than a year and have asked some painful questions in retrospect. And my journey has shown that some of the snuffs I like are shared favorites, and that no one has the same tastes as I do. Try a snuff, compare your impressions to those of others ( read all the reviews you can find), and then you will gradually find reviews that match your own results. Then pay attention to what those people like, and think, then build a library of snuff. There is no such thing as the best SP, menthol, Scotch, ect. There is only your top Five. Ermtony’s top five, Zanders top five. Every snuff will have a different effect on each and every one of us, it is so subjective, that is why we are here, to share, advocate, and yes disagree! But we all agree that there should be absolutely no biting allowed!!! And for the record, I have both of the snuffs you inquire about, and I cannot sniff either one due to a complete inability to tolerate menthol. This took months to figure out. I have a bulk tub of O&G, one of my stumbles on my path. Peace, and good luck.

Hedges is a very strong !MENTHOL!, whilst o&g is nowhere near as strong and has other things in there. I personally do not enjoy o&g as I get the smell of burnt insulation from it, but others may love it.

0&G=meh Hedges=Clears the nose in the morning. Wouldn’t use either all day, but I use Hedges nearly everyday. Like others have said, Hedges is useful when used sparingly as a medicine. As for an all day medicated, GH CM is my all-time-favorite. YMMV.

maybe it would have been clearer to say not a bad question but it isn’t one that I feel I can honestly answer beyond saying try out a few and you’ll certainly find something you don’t want to live with out. I’am sure you’ll see what I mean after trying a few more of these snuffs.

O&G is a gentle, forgiving snuff with nice tobacco undertones plus some menthol as well. Hedges is a tin filled with menthol.

Bob and I have actually been involved in a sanctioned “Cage Match” and I can assure you, he is an upright fellow. Sometimes with this damn computer, it is hard to hear the context in which something is said. Sadly, sometimes people are misunderstood. Give the benifit of the doubt. I have never had trouble with ANYONE on here besides Bob and Whistler. ( Ironically, I beat them both in a tag-team, no holds-barred match. I was the one in the Lucha Libre mask, so you know.)

Lucha Libre!, my favorite was El Asso Wipo (Mad TV skit)! Personally, I do not mess with bob, he has a weird aloof disassociated vibe about him.

Bart is speaking some great words right there. Smart fellow you are

Well, everyone has their own sense of humor and style of talking and sometimes something gets lost over the IntraWebs, Mike. I’m just repeating what I’ve learned from others…Make like a duck and let it roll off your back. Whalen, that was classic!..“I will take America and break its back like so with my knee.”!!

pretty soon we hedges fans will gather our forces and put the o&g heretics to the sword and sort this out once and for all! hedges above all!

Yeah I’m the same way Bart. I know how misunderstandings happen from time to time. Personally, both snuffs are great, and unique in their own ways. I have both, and love both

@Bart LOL very true… maybe the stress of moving to the new house is getting to me. My apologies bob. I didn’t mean to sound like a dick

I can guarantee O&G to get used up before the L260 does. So If you would like a historical item to have for years to come get the Hedges L260. If you want some snuff to feed a tobacco addiction then get McCrystal’s O&G. I have my L260 armored with extra tin from India but the O&G lays around drying out in all three tin sizes. I notice the less there is the faster it dries.

How about Gawith Hoggarth C M. Not from a sneeze box, but from a 25g tub, or larger. This should not be overlooked!

snuffnpuff tis cool. Moving sucks being moved rocks though. You didn’t sound like anything big problem with internet communications. Seriously though it just seemed like a misunderstand which is bound to happen. I don’t many people haven’t done that. In fact ironicaly I had to read a study about internet mis understandings. During the study too of the people working on the study got into a “shouting match” over a misunderstanding. So it’s bound to happen. No skin off of my nose (that’s what that damn tree that gets in fights with drunks is for [only partialy kidding about that last part]

Yeah I always use correct punctuation, and try to EMPHASIZE (see what I mean?) the words that I type- in an effort to let the reader interpret the exact way I’m trying to say something. Mostly out of frustration; I’m sick of repeating myself and ppl taking what I say/type the wrong way. However, some ppl are just out to disagree and argue with others. Almost like chatting on the internet is a way to vent their anger on PERFECT STRANGERS with no consequences due to the anonymity of the internet. Sometimes I wish that it listed home addresses and phone numbers so that I could go MAKE them own up to what they say. Too many wimpy punks out there that won’t shut up the negativity and need to be taught a lesson. They’re always the scrawny, cowardly types hiding behind a computer screen too! Imagine that, eh? ha ha Best thing to do though is just LET IT GO… (no matter how bad you sometimes want to stomp someone!) ANYWAYS, I only use menthols in the mornings when I’m congested, or when I’m sick and need to blow my nose shortly thereafter… FANTASTIC medicinal qualities…

I use l260, Gawith Hoggarth CM, Samuel Gawith Zip, JH 99 and McC O&G. They all get used but the O&G and Zip get replaced more regularly.

Man tone of voice is so important. When I started interneting I thought why is everyone on the web so uptight. Then I realized oh that makes sense. Here is a neat tip I’ve not tried. Read things you write on line before you send them but read them out loud in several diffrent tones of voice. I’ve actualy tried it with things I’ve already writen and man it makes a lot of sense. Especialy things where I wondered why such over reactions. Of course there are always trolls.

Also has helped me when I can remember to reread things after getting angery. It’s kept me from “screaming” a few times. Of course I still miss things and insult someone who deserves it so no problem there.

I know it is not in the parameters of the question, but I also choose GH CM. You can use it more than the L260 and it doesn’t have the bergamot of the O&G. Just good tobacco and menthol goodness.

To me, O&G has a funky aftertaste that I really don’t care for. I think there’s probably too much camphor for me in O&G. Others may find, however, that it’s what they like best about it. Hedges L260, on the other hand, has a clean aftertaste with hints of pine and citrus. But some find the menthol content to be entirely too much. Not me. As others have noted, no two snuffers have identical tastes. Try many brands. You won’t like them all, but after you’ve tried a few dozen, you’ll have a much better idea of what to try next.

I find that too. Though it’s been years since I’ve tried it.

For me, O&G is a snack while Hedges is the whole damn meal.

K so looks like Hedges is making a comeback… hmmmmm I’ll probably just get both and go from there but was just wondering what snuffhouse’s favorite was. Thanks to all that commented!

@pipensnusnsnuff that will be the smell of burnt electrical insulation i get from it then.

I personally prefer the O&G because it is milder and more complex. I tend to pig out on the stuff and have yet to find one I like more. I’m still a newbie myself and have yet to try them all though.

I’ve been doing these two back to back and find McChrystal’s O&G easier to use all day even though I can and do use Hedges L260 throughout the day as well.  After a while, Hedges L260 makes my nose red and I have to take a few hours to recuperate

McChrystal’s O&G doesn’t do this and I think it’s because it doesn’t have eucalyptus in it like Hedges L260 and/or because it has other things that sort of soften the blow of menthol like camphor 

So, as an all day I choose O&G but using Hedges L260 and nothing but for a day or two can be pretty fun.  Just don’t overdo it because you’ll be sitting there (like I am right now, hehe) feeling like you shoved your nose in a freezer  

I think that O and G has a more interesting flavor but not quite as much menthol as Hedges.

I think it’s just a hunch I had.  Eucalyptus seems like it’s sort of harsh and hard to use continuously and since I don’t detect eucalyptus in McChrystal’s O&G (or Gawith Hoggarth CM, Samuel Gawith Dr. Verey’s Plus and a few others) or experience the effects I associate with it, red sinuses, slight swelling and burning tingling sensations

Don’t get me wrong.  Menthol by itself can be quite harsh as I found out with WoS M.  It’s like it has nowhere to go so it burns the sinuses and doesn’t do much else